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Humvees-start your engines!-Official Thread
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Posted: Monday, January 08, 2007 - 08:16 PM UTC

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16 hours! ?

Blimey, I am glad if I can get something built in 16 days! Well done Gary.

Dus



LOL, Dus, I was FLYING! Generally, it takes me a few weeks to a month to knock out one of these Hummers. This one was fairly easy though, as there isnt much extra detail needed to do the 998 accurately. The Marine Recon hummer I did first took about 3 months off and on.

I previously meant to write you to say your Humvee technical looks incredible! I recall seeing the pictures of the actual vehicle on here, and I had doubts if someone could manage to pull off a kit bash, but yours looks great! Good job! I am curious, was the base kit the Academy M998 IED?? Well, gotta run back to work. Cyas later!

PS - if anyone needs and spares for their builds drop me a line. I have a ridiculous box of spare Humvee parts sitting under my desk.
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Posted: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 - 01:40 AM UTC
Hi all...it's complete and ready for campaign....hope you like it.....











Safe all....

Ciro
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Posted: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 - 02:03 AM UTC
NIce job Ciro. Another beauty. I think you forgot the side view mirrors though Or did you leave them off for a reason? I know you said you wanted this to be better then the first one, but honestly, I think they are both great! If I had to choose which one I liked better, I couldnt! Again, great build!
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Posted: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 - 02:10 AM UTC
Hey, just a friendly reminder for everyone, for everyone who completed their build, dont forget to put your photo's in the campaign gallery located here................ http://photos.kitmaker.net/showgallery.php/cat/17416. I was looking earlier and noticed a lot of us who finished hadnt added photos. cyas!

Gary
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Posted: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 - 02:29 AM UTC
Hi Gary,Thanks for comments...side mirrors view are still on the workbench,I want put them in a little box and put them on on humvee,more or less like new items to get on it....it's only an idea...but it could be nice..anyway model it's complete and to be honest I'm tired to build and paint the same model for long time....I think it's better than my previous work...but this it isn't the end...I've just started a new build....the show must go on
One thingh?!how does this campaign work?!It's my first experience.....someone win something?!....

Warmest regards my friend

Ciro
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Posted: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 - 04:52 AM UTC
Hi Ciro,

Great job on the Humvee .
Where did you get your tie down straps from?
Did you scratch build them ?


Cheers


Michael
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Posted: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 - 09:58 PM UTC
Hi Gary

Thanks for the kind words. Yes it is the Academy IED kit, the thing is those IED armour parts are all provided as extras and the basic kit parts are all still supplied, Result!
Only real problem is that the wheels are a tad small.

Ciro, Fantastico!!!

Ciao
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Posted: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 - 10:53 PM UTC
Dus, if you want a set of the Tamiya wheels, let me know. I have about 3 sets of extras. The only thing I dont have extras of is the center caps. Let me know if you want em.
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Posted: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 - 11:30 PM UTC
Mmm...guys...Have humvee ,now,remote weapon station?!Is it in use or is it only a prototype?!

Ciro
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Thanks for your comments!!!!
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Posted: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 - 04:19 AM UTC
Dus--very nice kitbash! That is one beat-down but aggressive-looking guntruck.

Gary--I think Amazing Grace turned out fine, but I agree with Ciro that your M1044 looks better. I do think once it is in its diorama it will be livelier, though.

Ciro--Very nice job on your second Humvee. Once again you did a great job on the ASK doors. As for how the campaign works, all of us that finished a Humvee within the time allotted will get a campaign ribbon from the campaign leader. You can then display your ribbon on your profile page. It will go in a column on the upper-right part of the profile that will be titled "Awards." If you want to see how it would look like, find a post from an Armorama member who has been active for a long time (for example: Gino, Pete, Rob, ti, or others) and check out their profiles. This is my first campaign, too, so I don't know exactly how that magic happens. I guess we'll find out!
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Posted: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 - 04:22 AM UTC
Ciro--I believe the remote weapons system is still a prototype, but I think it has been tested in Iraq with several units. It allows soldiers to aim and fire the M2 or M240 on the Humvee from inside the vehicle. I think there was a picture of what that setup looked like here or on Webshots, but I can't find it.
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Posted: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 - 05:02 AM UTC
Here's my official entry for the Humvee Campaign.


It's the 1/35 scale Academy M997 Maxi-Ambulance Humvee built representing an early stage of Operation Iraqi Freedom. I plan on using it for a dio sometime in the future.
Comments and critiques welcome.
-Jerry


***Thanks to Rob for the fun campaign and all the participants for the motivation!!!
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Posted: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 - 05:42 AM UTC
Jerry--that's a fine looking Maxi-ambulance. I particularly like the nicely feathered camouflage and the weathering. The only comment I have (and it may or may not be valid) is that I think the wheels on 3-color Humvees are usually black instead of green. Pete (Epi) can probably chime in and tell us whether that's the standard painting guideline or not.
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Posted: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 - 10:52 AM UTC

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I think the wheels on 3-color Humvees are usually black instead of green. .



Jerry, I like your ambulance. It came our REALLY good! Personally, I wouldnt change a thing. As far as the wheels go, if you believe the directions in the Tamiya kits, Lucas is correct, and the three color nato paint scheme has black rims. However, I couldnt say what they are supposed to be by spec, but I have seen lots of Humvees with the three color nato pattern and green rims. Ive seen mixed and matched wheels too for that matter. Some black, some green, some tan. Pete aka Epi, is definitely the best person to ask on this. He would know better then any of us. But, IMHO, I dont think you did anything wrong. Again, very fine build!
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Posted: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 - 01:51 PM UTC

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Dus, if you want a set of the Tamiya wheels, let me know. I have about 3 sets of extras. The only thing I dont have extras of is the center caps. Let me know if you want em.



Hi Gary

Thanks for the offer, yes please!
I will PM you with my address dets.

Cheers
Dus
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Posted: Thursday, January 11, 2007 - 02:09 AM UTC
I need smoke poppers.... Gaaaaaaryyyyy..... can you help me?! ....

one question...why sf guys use standard humvee without doors and not uparmored ones?!It isn't better use m1114 and then modified them?!in my photos sf use normal 1025 and they add steel around...I think it could be better use m1114 (even without doors)..and modified them in a "special gun truck"....are there particular reasons for the choose?!

Ciro
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Posted: Thursday, January 11, 2007 - 02:51 AM UTC

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I need smoke poppers.... Gaaaaaaryyyyy..... can you help me?! ....

one question...why sf guys use standard humvee without doors and not uparmored ones?!It isn't better use m1114 and then modified them?!in my photos sf use normal 1025 and they add steel around...I think it could be better use m1114 (even without doors)..and modified them in a "special gun truck"....are there particular reasons for the choose?!

Ciro



Ah Ciro, sorry dude. I dont have any smoke poppers in my spares box If I did, Id send em to ya. However, I think I can help you with your SF humvee question. I have seen SF humvees with no doors, unarmored 1025 doors, and uparmored 1040 series doors. On the front passenger side of the SF humvees, there is a scissor MG mount , and usually there is a M249 SAW with collapsable stock mounted there. It would be difficult to swing the SAW around and fire from the front or the side with a door in place. Yesterday there was a post of a special forces modified M1114 on here. The rear sides that are normally open were armored, and the rear of the humvee had armor plate too. The gunners turret was uparmored, but it used a differant setup then I have ever seen before. The gun shield was also differant. There were two balistic windows in the front on each side of the MG. Also, they had removed the front scissor mount for the SAW. check out the latest posts section, and you should be able to find the thread.
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Posted: Thursday, January 11, 2007 - 03:01 AM UTC
Hi Gary,hope you're fine,I've just seen sf 1114...and definitely they aren't common but in my opinion I've some doubts about the use of these type of humvee by the sf...can you post(if you have)photos of dumvee(is the word correct?!)?!I'm waiting for mig conversion....for a project but up to now no info I've received.So I would start with a sf dumvee...that doesn't need of a particular thinghs(except pro art model set)...but there are some version that can be realized without this set...

Ciro
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Posted: Thursday, January 11, 2007 - 05:54 AM UTC
First of all Jerry-That Humvee looks superb! I love the subtle weathering and the superb camo finish-spot on!

As damn luck would have it ive been working my butt off to get the Dumvee finished, when what should happen-I get a full time 9-6 job(ive been job hunting for a while, buts its typical I should get a job this week!) So im really going to ahve to push it on saturday to get it done but its not looking good guys, construction is done but theres so much to paint and I dont want to rush it, I think its pretty impossible that I will be able to paint it in a day! Perhaps i will elave it unpainetd for the purposes of the campaign to illustrate the level of scratchbuilding and the thousands of things you can create with a few sheets of plasti card-yes I intended not to paint it! :-) I'll try and photograph it saturday and post some pictures, as I say its all done I just have to paint the whole things and all the little details and glue in the accessories and additional items. Its my own fault for leaving it this late, maybe one day i'll finish a project!

Ciro-It would appear that the US SF Dumvees, the basic M1025 vehicle with the rear removed etc and intended to be as light and as mobile as possible. The added weight of armoured doors etc would seriously slow the vehicle down. In the initial days of the invasion when these Dumvees were used a lot up north, mobility was the key, they didnt have to worry about IED's or any of that. Im pretty sure the Dumvees would go on 'shoot and scoot' (i made that up ) missions were they attack an area or carry out survalience ops and then speed off again as fast as posssible. I may be totaly wrong about this, but it seems logical to me. By removing the doors they reduce the weight and it allows the crew all round visions and ease of mounting up and driving off quickly if the battle becomes too intense. Ive seen lots of British landrovers on the new recently in Afghanistan, all of these are just open top vehicles which are intended to be heavily armed aswell as fast and mobile. Hope this answers that for you, as I say I may be totaly wrong about that, but thats what logic is telling me.........know it all's feel free to tell me im totaly wrong!

On a different matter now, I wish this campaign had more time, I received in the post today a massive parcel from Medic23 containing 3 MIG M1114's, Tamiya donar kits and a whole load of otehr humvee goodies, aswell as that a box of over 50 resin think 180 figures and at least 30 plastic dml figs, all as seperate parts so I can mix and match. Im pretty much sorted for projects for the next couple of years-3 M1114's!!!!! So I hope once it is over, us modern armor fans can still keep up the flow of models to the site, I know, ok ive not actually contributed a model for the campaing yet-lol. Ciro I believe you mentioned you will be doing an M1114 next so hopefully we can get a few of these built and get Vinnie to put some of them as build features and such like-I wana see this place swamped with Humvees

Happy mdoelling guys!
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Posted: Thursday, January 11, 2007 - 09:10 AM UTC
Ciro, here are some links for ya................

http://media.militaryphotos.net/photos/shrek/atf

http://media.militaryphotos.net/photos/shrek/atf

http://media.militaryphotos.net/photos/shrek/akb

http://media.militaryphotos.net/photos/shrek/ajz

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http://media.militaryphotos.net/photos/5th-SFGA/abn

http://media.militaryphotos.net/photos/5th-SFGA/aab

http://media.militaryphotos.net/photos/Special_Forces-Afghanistan/aaq

There are tons more SF humvee pictures on that site. You just have to look for them. Some of those have no doors, doors, nets, rolled up tarps, etc. Should give you some good referance materials for your build. I would find more, but its getting late here. Im taking a break from modelling tonight. Its time to go play some Battlefield 2 online and snipe some butt! (I hope) LOL
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Posted: Thursday, January 11, 2007 - 05:06 PM UTC
Ciro-It would appear that the US SF Dumvees, the basic M1025 vehicle with the rear removed etc and intended to be as light and as mobile as possible. The added weight of armoured doors etc would seriously slow the vehicle down. In the initial days of the invasion when these Dumvees were used a lot up north, mobility was the key, they didnt have to worry about IED's or any of that. Im pretty sure the Dumvees would go on 'shoot and scoot' (i made that up ) missions were they attack an area or carry out survalience ops and then speed off again as fast as posssible. I may be totaly wrong about this, but it seems logical to me. By removing the doors they reduce the weight and it allows the crew all round visions and ease of mounting up and driving off quickly if the battle becomes too intense. Ive seen lots of British landrovers on the new recently in Afghanistan, all of these are just open top vehicles which are intended to be heavily armed aswell as fast and mobile. Hope this answers that for you, as I say I may be totaly wrong about that, but thats what logic is telling me.........know it all's feel free to tell me im totaly wrong!

On a different matter now, I wish this campaign had more time, I received in the post today a massive parcel from Medic23 containing 3 MIG M1114's, Tamiya donar kits and a whole load of otehr humvee goodies, aswell as that a box of over 50 resin think 180 figures and at least 30 plastic dml figs, all as seperate parts so I can mix and match. Im pretty much sorted for projects for the next couple of years-3 M1114's!!!!! So I hope once it is over, us modern armor fans can still keep up the flow of models to the site, I know, ok ive not actually contributed a model for the campaing yet-lol. Ciro I believe you mentioned you will be doing an M1114 next so hopefully we can get a few of these built and get Vinnie to put some of them as build features and such like-I wana see this place swamped with Humvees

So Rob,you confirm what I think about SF 1114 photos on latest post...they aren't used by sf guys,in my opinon they are highly armored and too slow for an operation that need good speed and free space to use guns...that's what I think.
Yeah...today it's a great day...I've 2 Mig m1114 2 Tamiya Humvee and other some little items...next projects are M1114 (only one for now) and a Dumvee...I agree with you about build features...but we need a very good model....and a very good modeller!!!!!I'm still learning this world...and I don't think that my models can be used to show to other how to do something or how it should be....but maybe in some years...but this is my opinion...I think that you could be this...or Epi and Gary...your humvee,in particular yours Rob are great...I like the items of Epi...and the painting and weathering on yours 1025...really good effect!!!!Hey.....post a shot of your dumvee if you can.....I'm curious!!!

Safe Rob....
PS
Thanks Gary for links....

Ciro
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Posted: Friday, January 12, 2007 - 01:28 AM UTC
Hello my fellow Humee modellers

Just an note........As this campaign comes to a close, I just wanted to tell you guys all, I had a good time with this campaign, and enjoyed meeting lots of you. Its nice to make new friends. For those of you who might be interested, there is a thread on here and talk of a possible OIF campaign. If your interested, go add a reply so that the moderators here will see there is a lot of interest for this campaign and hopefully it goes through.

Hey Rob, you might even be able to finish your Dumvee for the next campaign :-) :-) (just teasin ya!)

Well, if it flies, I hope to see all you guys and your great work there. Catch yas later!
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Posted: Friday, January 12, 2007 - 07:10 AM UTC
Ok good news, I have the whole day off tommorrow so im going to try and see just how much of the dumvee I can complete.

Ciro-I thik SF guys do actually us the M1114, but it would appear to be more likely that these werent pressed into service with SF guys until the insurgancy began. Obviously SF guys are still oprating in Iraq carrying out survalliance missions and counter insurgency op's, but with the hightened security risks and the almost certain danger of being IED'd, it would be suicidal to carry out such missions these days in the basic GMV dumvee. You should definately get concords excellent Humvees in Iraq book, its covers a lot about SF Humvees. From what ive seen reading it today(i got it in the post yesterday) the SF guys use the basic M1025A2, which is a slightly more armoured version of the M1025 and comes with a winch fitted. They also use the M1113 ECV, which is a brother of the M1114 family, it appears that initially they converted the M1113's to GMV's by altering the rear area, removing the doors and fitting basic supplementry armour doors instead, and obviously other things like the weapons mounts etc. Ive seen recently on here some pics of SF M1114's, these could in actual fact of been M1113's(im still not sure how you determine which is whihc, further reading will be required!) as they did appear to feature all the details I mentioned above. But obviously with the SF guys nothing is regulation so you will find all kinds of weird and wondeful looking Humvees. Dave Harper of VLS did some research on SF Humvee's for some up and coming trakz releases and posted some drawings of what appeared to be either M1114 or M1113's. These had been converted into gun trucks, one had an armoured box constructed around the rear area with 4 M240B's mounted in each corner, the cab ws open and it was fitted with basic supplementry armor doors(the half door type) it was also fitted with a heavy duty truck style front bumper. I can send these pics out to you if you would like. In the May Issue of AFV modeller there was a feature of Humvees in Afghanistan and there were several shots of an SF M1114 fitted with Super Swampers, it had the cargo hatch left open and a seat fitted seperately in the rear so a gunner could sit in the rear and operate either an M2HB or an M240B, the crew compartment was still seperately sealed off.

When it comes to SF Humvees its confusing ground to cover becuase of the fact that there are no standard designs available and much of the Humvee conversions are based of the needs of the guys operating them. Id say if you want to build a basic GMV humvee(Dumvee) go with the Pro Art set and add the required details which I will list when I post my build tommorrow, although I didnt use the pro art set, the details I added will be relevant if you are using the set. If you decide to go ahead and build a slightly more different SF Humvee using an M1113/M1114 as the basis some research will be required, ive got a lot of reference on the matter and would be happy to help when ever you need it.

It looks like there is some support for the OIF campaign, so if anyone doesnt get there Humvees done(obviously they would have to eb OIF related) then you can probabaly just enter them into that if and when it goes ahead. I know i'll be building more Humvees for that campaign-I love em!

Hey Gary, maybe i'll actually be able to complete a kit full stop, so far that M1025 I did ages ago is one of the only models ive ever completed for my personnal collection(ive done a load for customers) Im useless and get bord with things too quickly. So in the time its taken me to build(not paint) one Humvee you have done four, ok im handing over command of this campaign to Gary, ive been releaved of my duties

Good luck guys, you have until Sunday! After that im not sure how the procedure goes, I may have to contact Jazza who appears to of had some experiance at running campaigns.
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Posted: Friday, January 12, 2007 - 11:54 PM UTC

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Hey Gary, maybe i'll actually be able to complete a kit full stop, so far that M1025 I did ages ago is one of the only models ive ever completed for my personnal collection(ive done a load for customers) Im useless and get bord with things too quickly. So in the time its taken me to build(not paint) one Humvee you have done four, ok im handing over command of this campaign to Gary, ive been releaved of my duties .



Oh no ya dont LOL I remember talking with you when you came up with the idea for this campaign. I thought it was ( and still do think it is) a great idea. I only wanted to contribute to this campaign and help others (when possible) to make it interesting and keep it alive. This however is and was your idea, your work, your dedication, and to your credit. Did you ever get the feeling that you didnt step forward but rather everyone else took a step back?? :-) :-) :-) As far as your dumvee goes, Rob, Ive seen your work, and its flawless and incredible. If you didnt finish it in time, I completely understand especially with the level of detail and scratch building you put into your models. Did you ever finish that bradley?? That was stunning. Well, thats all for me.

I do have an idea for a campaign this year. A campaign based on "National Heroes". Its still in the thought stages, but basically participants would choose some national hero who served their specific country and do either a figure, vignette or diorama based on that person and a short description of what made them a hero and how they were decorated. After seeing the Medal of Honor presented to the family of a fallen Marine who jumped on a grenade to save his squad this week, I think we all "owe" it to our national heroes to tell their story to others and keep their memories alive. Well, keep an eye out. Once I work out the details, I will throw a thread on here about it. Cyas! And Everyone have a great weekend!!!

Gary
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Posted: Saturday, January 13, 2007 - 03:27 AM UTC

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I do have an idea for a campaign this year. A campaign based on "National Heroes". Its still in the thought stages, but basically participants would choose some national hero who served their specific country and do either a figure, vignette or diorama based on that person and a short description of what made them a hero and how they were decorated. After seeing the Medal of Honor presented to the family of a fallen Marine who jumped on a grenade to save his squad this week, I think we all "owe" it to our national heroes to tell their story to others and keep their memories alive. Well, keep an eye out. Once I work out the details, I will throw a thread on here about it. Cyas! And Everyone have a great weekend!!!

Gary



Hi Gary

I like your campaign idea, the fact that it can be figure, vignette or figure opens it up to a broader spectrum of potential participants too. Good one.
Hope you have a good weekend too.
Dus