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Wheels and Tires
Posted: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 - 06:54 PM UTC
TATRA -and trailer (with diggy thing) coming up
Mmmm!!--got me thinking ---BTR-80 recovery
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Posted: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 - 07:29 PM UTC
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Glad to see the interest and the people starting up. Curious, what was the schwimmwagon used for since it seems to me - and I'm sure I'm wrong in this - that there was not a huge need for an amphibious "jeep" once the possibility of an invasion of Britain was realized?
Jeff
Hi Jeff
As I recall the Schwimmwagen was not developed for the invasion of Britain but as a tactical tool for scouting etc.
I think there was a huge demand for a small amphibious vehicle for scouting missions etc. Especially on the Eastern front where bridges were far between and lots of them probably destroyed.
Being able to cross rivers and lakes would in many cases be a nice capability to have when scouting out enemy forces.
Just my 2 cents.
dbaumi60
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Posted: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 - 07:49 PM UTC
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Quoted TextGlad to see the interest and the people starting up. Curious, what was the schwimmwagon used for since it seems to me - and I'm sure I'm wrong in this - that there was not a huge need for an amphibious "jeep" once the possibility of an invasion of Britain was realized?
Jeff
Hi Jeff
As I recall the Schwimmwagen was not developed for the invasion of Britain but as a tactical tool for scouting etc.
I think there was a huge demand for a small amphibious vehicle for scouting missions etc. Especially on the Eastern front where bridges were far between and lots of them probably destroyed.
Being able to cross rivers and lakes would in many cases be a nice capability to have when scouting out enemy forces.
Just my 2 cents.
Hello to all
I agree 100% with Jesper.
Nice day
Dirk
Posted: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 - 08:03 PM UTC
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I'll be very interested to see this one build up, as Im doing the BTR-70 from Zvezda, and have my eye on the -80 to build soon. Good luck with it Jesper. The -70 is going together beautifully so far. Im actually surprised how well the parts fit, better than a lot of DML I have built
Hi Kevin
Progress is being made on my build as well. The overall fit is okay, but some parts seem to be a little on the heavy side. Also the kit includes the wheel hub for a spare wheel, but only 8 tires leaving none for the spare wheel
I will post some WiP pictures this week. I am planning to make a "shark mouth" version as pr the two pictures below. The pictures are supposed to be from Causassus, but if this means Chechenya I do not know. I have the decals for both versions I have not decided what type of shark mouth I like the most......
Also if you fancy a conversion check out this version which should be from Chechenya. It should be made up of parts from a T-72 and/or a T-72B.
Here are some general pictures of BTR-80s. Notice the the life belt on top of the MG turret. Also notice the fitting of grenade launcher and a chair on top of one of the other BTR-80s. Pretty exposed position although I am sure the field of fire is almost unrestricted 360 degrees. Also the grenade launcher seem to restrict the launching of some of the smoke canisters.
I do not know if they use BTR-70s in Chechenya, but taking into account that the Russians seem to store everything and never completely phase anything out it is likely. After all they are still using BMP-1s in Chechenya. So with a little artistic license you could build yours as a Chechenya BTR-70 even though I have no sources for a BTR-70 in Chechenya.
dbaumi60
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Posted: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 - 08:39 PM UTC
Hi,
I found a nice photo of the Schwimmwagen in heavy duty.
I found a nice photo of the Schwimmwagen in heavy duty.
dbaumi60
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Posted: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 - 08:43 PM UTC
Sorry....here the pic
spongya
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Posted: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 - 02:39 AM UTC
I live close to Frt Lauderdale -"Venice of East Coast". I can picture myself living on the intracoastal, and commuting with a swimmwagen
USArmy2534
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Posted: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 - 05:08 AM UTC
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I live close to Frt Lauderdale -"Venice of East Coast". I can picture myself living on the intracoastal, and commuting with a swimmwagen
I hear you on that. I lived in Tampa for a while and I can remember on more than one occasion needing an amphibious vehicle to go down Dale Mabry. I still recall people canoing down this street (Dale Mabry was...is one of Tampa's busiest commercially-lined streets).
Jeff
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Posted: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 - 02:50 PM UTC
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Hi Jesper,
When I get a BTR-80, I may just have to use this idea, its too good to pass up. Although this is probably the paint scheme I will go with. I have loved it ever since I first saw it on a T-80 tank. Im not sure what markings come with my vehicle, I have been unable to find a referance to these markings other than the box art. You can see it here
http://www.udisco.com/hobbies/pics/993556.jpg
So mine may end up being a totally fictional vehicle, from no specific unit.
Jacques
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Posted: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 - 03:18 PM UTC
Remember that the colors in that photo are Sand/Black/GREEN, not two tone brown and black, (which I think is cooler anyhow)
Posted: Saturday, June 09, 2007 - 12:35 AM UTC
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Remember that the colors in that photo are Sand/Black/GREEN, not two tone brown and black, (which I think is cooler anyhow)
We can quickly agree about that, Jacques. There are a lot of cool camouflage schemes out the for Russian armour!
Johnston_RCR
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Posted: Thursday, June 14, 2007 - 05:55 AM UTC
Well, I have completed my build, but of course I spilled the last of the sand coloured paint I need for my camouflage poaint job. And of course, my LHS is sold out of that colour right now. So while I wait for more paint so I can show my final build, I have some in progress shots for you all. Its Zvezda's BTR-70. Its a really quick and simple build, and the front wheels remain turnable/posable after the build is complete.
emroglan
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Posted: Thursday, June 14, 2007 - 07:21 AM UTC
Don't skip drilling the gun barrels.
Is this Zvezda kit the same with the old Dragon? I wonder. I built a Dragon ages ago and the model was Lost in Action awhile back during cleaning. I would like to build another BTR-70, that's why I'm asking. Would you recommend it?
Is this Zvezda kit the same with the old Dragon? I wonder. I built a Dragon ages ago and the model was Lost in Action awhile back during cleaning. I would like to build another BTR-70, that's why I'm asking. Would you recommend it?
Johnston_RCR
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Posted: Thursday, June 14, 2007 - 09:23 AM UTC
Ahh, thanks Emre. I had a feeling I was forgetting something, but couldn't find it. I'll drill out the barrels tomorrow. I would definately recommend this kit. The parts fit well, there is very little flash, and its very simple to build. I also like that you can turn the wheels anytime you want. The bad things are that the thinnest, most fagile parts (rails, handles) seem to be attached to the thickest sprue. So as long as you dont mind fixing those peices, or plan to substitute brass, there really aren't many drawbacks to this kit.
Once I have it painted and some final pictures taken, I plan on submitting a review I have written on it. Hopefully you will see it up in the next couple of weeks. I just need my LHS to get the paint I ordered from them yesterday.
Once I have it painted and some final pictures taken, I plan on submitting a review I have written on it. Hopefully you will see it up in the next couple of weeks. I just need my LHS to get the paint I ordered from them yesterday.
Posted: Monday, June 18, 2007 - 10:02 PM UTC
Hi Kevin
Nice to see the progress on your build. Too bad about the out of stock paint. I build the BTR-70 some years ago and it is a pretty nice build - especially considering the small price tag.
I have made some progress on the big brother - the BTR-80. Construction is now completed. The tape on the front is just to hold the part together until the glue has dried. Next is a base coat of Russian green and some sand and black camouflage.
Nice to see the progress on your build. Too bad about the out of stock paint. I build the BTR-70 some years ago and it is a pretty nice build - especially considering the small price tag.
I have made some progress on the big brother - the BTR-80. Construction is now completed. The tape on the front is just to hold the part together until the glue has dried. Next is a base coat of Russian green and some sand and black camouflage.
Johnston_RCR
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Posted: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 - 04:19 AM UTC
Hi Jesper, its looks great. I can't wait to see it painted. This will be my first time painting a Russian camo scheme on anything bigger than a figure, so we'll see how it goes
Im hoping the paint shows up soon....I'm also waiting on some AFV Club tracks for my OIF build, an MLRS.
Im hoping the paint shows up soon....I'm also waiting on some AFV Club tracks for my OIF build, an MLRS.
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Posted: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 - 04:43 AM UTC
This is looking great Jesper. Is going into a Chechen war timeframe, or is it 'anytime Cold-War'?
Jeff
Jeff
Posted: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 - 05:43 PM UTC
Thanks for the comments guys. I appreciate it
Kevin, I am also a little worried about the camouflage. The sand and green will not be a problem, but the thin black "shadow" lines might be hard to paint. Especially over the engine deck with all the vents etc. Good luck with your painting - hope your paint will show up soon.
Jeff, I am planning on placing the vehicle in a "Caucasus" context. I am building my vehicle loosely based on the pictures I have published earlier in this tread. The pictures should be from Caucasus, but that probably means that the pictures are from Chechenya in most cases.
The vehicle will be Russian green with broad areas of sand and thin black lines bordering the two main colours. Also I am planning to use the "Sharks mouth" on the vehicle. I hope it will look as cool as I planned.
Kevin, I am also a little worried about the camouflage. The sand and green will not be a problem, but the thin black "shadow" lines might be hard to paint. Especially over the engine deck with all the vents etc. Good luck with your painting - hope your paint will show up soon.
Jeff, I am planning on placing the vehicle in a "Caucasus" context. I am building my vehicle loosely based on the pictures I have published earlier in this tread. The pictures should be from Caucasus, but that probably means that the pictures are from Chechenya in most cases.
The vehicle will be Russian green with broad areas of sand and thin black lines bordering the two main colours. Also I am planning to use the "Sharks mouth" on the vehicle. I hope it will look as cool as I planned.
Spades
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Posted: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 - 12:29 PM UTC
HA !!!! I found you all finally !! I just joined this campaign, and im bringing my trusty M3 scout car with me. Hopefully I finish it soon, then we can dump some beer, food and go destroy mother natures beauty.
Posted: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 - 07:58 PM UTC
Here is another update on my BTR-80. The base coat is on and the wheels have been masked to prepare for the camouflage coat.
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Posted: Thursday, June 21, 2007 - 06:43 AM UTC
FYI guys,
those of you waiting for AFV's Stryker, Internethobbies.com and greatmodels.com both got them in stock today. Price is about 33-34 depending on which place you order from. I ordered mine, so hopefully, i should have it in the next week or two. Hows everyones build coming???
Gary
On a side note........any of you guys heard from Pete aka "epi" since he deployed???
those of you waiting for AFV's Stryker, Internethobbies.com and greatmodels.com both got them in stock today. Price is about 33-34 depending on which place you order from. I ordered mine, so hopefully, i should have it in the next week or two. Hows everyones build coming???
Gary
On a side note........any of you guys heard from Pete aka "epi" since he deployed???
USArmy2534
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Posted: Thursday, June 21, 2007 - 07:10 AM UTC
I really need to buy my stryker, but I just haven't.
No I haven't heard from Pete. I didn't think he'd deployed yet. I think I'll send him a PM.
Jeff
No I haven't heard from Pete. I didn't think he'd deployed yet. I think I'll send him a PM.
Jeff
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Posted: Thursday, June 21, 2007 - 12:54 PM UTC
Oh my oh my... Overlapping campaigns.. What to do what to do...
Dave
Dave
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Posted: Friday, June 22, 2007 - 12:07 AM UTC
I'm happy to report I have started mine.
So far it's a shake and bake, out of the box, fall together kit.
Except of course I did manage to loose a tiny part.
Creative cover up comes in handy.
Photos to follow.
So far it's a shake and bake, out of the box, fall together kit.
Except of course I did manage to loose a tiny part.
Creative cover up comes in handy.
Photos to follow.
Posted: Saturday, June 23, 2007 - 08:58 AM UTC
Start yet?? Nah .. there still months left .. I`ll be one of those who will be glueing like mad in the last minutes.
Anyways ... I have everyting ready
Tamiya ... Krupp Protze
Plus model ... engine
Royal models .. resin and PE update
Mr. Models ... wheels (early)
Havent a clue how I´ll finish it yet or what to use as stowage ... maybe just inthe repair shop!!
Anyways ... I have everyting ready
Tamiya ... Krupp Protze
Plus model ... engine
Royal models .. resin and PE update
Mr. Models ... wheels (early)
Havent a clue how I´ll finish it yet or what to use as stowage ... maybe just inthe repair shop!!