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Build - Log Review of DML SU-100 Premium kit
Jacques
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Posted: Monday, February 08, 2010 - 06:44 PM UTC
I have gotten some questions on this build to share:

So far I have built mine with the side hull plates showing the "lip" extending over the rear plate. I used the rear plate without the split hatch as I chose to use the 1 hatch option. Now will I still need to use the fillets or do I leave them off?

So far as I can tell, the "fillet" just behind the fighting compartment is consistent for WWII era SU-100, even the late ones. I have seen the pictures of the Aberdeen SU-100 but it appears this is a post-war Czech made vehicle. There is also the shot of the Mongolian SU-100 but this one has T-54/55 roadwheels, making it also post-WWII manufacture. I would go with the fillets.

Now whether I do use them or not, is it correct to use the square type front fenders or do I need to use rounded ones. The squared off fenders appear in 1945 from the sources I have seen. They may be earlier, but I know they were in use by Jan. 1945. Both fender types are seen in 1945 and post war.

The manufacture went something like this (this is just a rough outline so forgive me if I screw up a detail or two):

SU-85 is put into production in 1943.

When the T-34/85 starts production, SU-85 production is changed to SU-100 production. Demand for the tank destoyers meant that the early SU-100 were built on some of the last production SU-85 hulls (with the split rear casement hatch) and evidence suggests that some SU-85 were regunned with the 100mm D-10S.

SU-100 production is streamlined and the split rear casement hatch is simplified to just a single hatch. Sometime during production the front fenders switch from curved to squared off.

So there is a lot of room for almost ANY combination of features considering that there were over 2,335 built by July 1945.

I hope that clears up some of the issues. If anyone has better info, please post it.
Dogwatch
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Posted: Saturday, February 27, 2010 - 08:46 PM UTC
Fantastic build! Ive got a T34/76 waiting to be built (DML 6205) and your project is getting me excited to start mine. Realistically though thats a ways off as Im still plodding along on a PZ IV E for now. Great work and thank you for taking the time to do such a detailed work-in-progress blog.

Steve
Jacques
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Posted: Sunday, February 28, 2010 - 04:42 PM UTC
More work on weathering. Mig Pigments and oderless Turpenoid.



Jacques
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Posted: Monday, March 08, 2010 - 10:59 AM UTC
Added the tow cable in a unusual way.



Now to start adding some epoxy putty cloth/bag piles...
Kylewaaagh
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Posted: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 - 04:26 AM UTC
I hope you don't use the epoxy bags to cover up mistakes, like I do...
Then again, Jacques doesn't make mistakes on Soviet armor.
Keep up the good work! The dirt and mud look great.
-Kyle
Jacques
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Posted: Thursday, March 18, 2010 - 02:35 PM UTC
No epoxy to cover mistakes BUT to match a great photo I have.

And do not sell yourself short, sometimes mistakes are the best incentive to try a new technique, AND remember, inflating my head is a BAD thing...it shows off my bald spot.

I will just be glad to get these done properly and move on to some other interesting builds.
shopkin4
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Posted: Thursday, March 18, 2010 - 03:03 PM UTC
Jacques,

I really hate these builds of yours. I can't keep spending money on kits that I don't have the time to build.

keep up the great work. I really loved your work with the pigments. Can you elaborate on what you did?
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Posted: Saturday, May 01, 2010 - 10:21 AM UTC
These are looking awesome, I'm currently working on the old su-100, I just hope it turns out half as nice as yours
frogman_13
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Posted: Thursday, June 10, 2010 - 08:45 AM UTC
Hi All,

Here is my version of the DML SU-100. It is the older one, but I have the new one ready for a future build when I have some time.

It is converted to a Czech version, postwar, in Syrian army use. The markings would date the model to the 1967 Arab-Israeli war.

Hope you like it.

Cheers,
Ed Okun


Jacques
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Posted: Thursday, June 10, 2010 - 02:26 PM UTC
Nice build. Gotta get back to my build. Ugh.
roadsidesbr
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Posted: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 - 06:37 PM UTC
I'm building the #6075 right now, and this thread is very useful! Thanks a lot!

Edit:
By the way, do you have any photo of the suspension without the road wheels? I gonna build mine with a missing one, 'cuz... I missed one. shame.

regards!
Jacques
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Posted: Thursday, June 17, 2010 - 01:52 PM UTC
First Look here, bottom of page

Second - You can use ANY picture of a T-34 missing a roadwheel...they are all essentially the same below the fenders, so far as suspension is concerned.
roadsidesbr
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Posted: Thursday, June 17, 2010 - 01:58 PM UTC
very nice!

thanks!
Marnix
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Posted: Saturday, July 31, 2010 - 11:35 AM UTC
Hi Jacques,

Browsing the internet for SU-100 references I came across your build log. Just to let you know, this thread is a real goldmine and you have done a great job detailing these two kits! I hope you will be able to finish your two SU's.

Greetings,

Max
Jacques
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Posted: Saturday, July 31, 2010 - 12:10 PM UTC
Glad you like it and it is usefull. I am working hard to finish up the build. I will try to get more done at the end of August or into Sept.
jaberwaki
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Posted: Saturday, October 09, 2010 - 04:04 PM UTC
looks really great.
BLACKWATER
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Posted: Thursday, February 17, 2011 - 04:02 AM UTC
Impressive work. Thanks for sharing.
Blackwater
Jacques
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Posted: Friday, February 18, 2011 - 03:37 AM UTC
I am actually working on these kits again. You guys can thank Kyle for that. I will try to post photos and discussion this weekend or next week (depends on how insane my life is...it is pretty nuts right now...sigh)

Most of my attention is focused on weathering and finishing on #6075.
Jacques
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Posted: Thursday, September 22, 2011 - 04:45 AM UTC
Getting back to these kits to finish them up. Recap:

6075 was almost done, very close, and then it took a trip to the floor and needed to have some suspension/track fixes applied. Almost back to where it was.

6359 Noticed the rear deck ventillator cover (The big one in back) did not sit right. I switched it out with a engine deck from DML's T-34/76 w/Commanders coupola and they each fit the other tank better...go figure. I started attempting to modulate this tank and it...ended up being a interesting result. Will try to get some pics up of progress, if I am not too embarrassed.

Now, why have I been so slow in this...? Emergency bathroom remodel this summer, which is nearing its end (thankfully).
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Posted: Tuesday, April 29, 2014 - 09:53 AM UTC
Wanted to give a shout out to this build in light of my own build of this kit. (corrected the link - edit)
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