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Large Scale Build Campaign 1/24 ~ 1/6
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Posted: Monday, June 17, 2013 - 08:15 PM UTC
Dude,great work,and your photos are fine You probably know this but make sure your shock housings are fully dry before you insert the shaft.I rushed it on the Cent.and split 2 of them.

How many choices do the instructions show for paint? Jeff T.
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Posted: Monday, June 17, 2013 - 11:51 PM UTC
How about this paint scheme Jeff?






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Posted: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 - 01:07 AM UTC
I know all about the shock absorber traps! They can get you into trouble VERY fast!



It is necessary that I clean all the holes and lightly sand for the primer as I suspect this plastic would be difficult for anything to adhere.

And Pete... thanks for the suggestion but that is way above my time line and probably talent too. The instructions give no paint schemes or choice of colors so I will hit the web for some color ideas. I just received my AK set for making mud so hopefully I can include that into the build as well.

I also want to see if I can replicate the thermal wrapping as I think the Chieftain would look wrong without it.


Later!



~ Jeff
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Posted: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 - 05:29 AM UTC
Jeff S.Looks like you have the shock thing covered As far as the paint goes,are we talking spray can or airbrush?Jeff T.
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Posted: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 - 08:33 AM UTC
Jeff the Iranians used the Cheif in the Iran-Iraq war, maybe a desert camo
Pete
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Posted: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 - 08:51 AM UTC
Not done a great deal with the Jag.....however painted the tools and they are in place, and added the tracks. The tracks on this kit are superb by the way, easy to build and paint well. I have given it a coat of future to seal the paint prior to decals and weathering. I plan to add a few stores on the back and place the one Shurtzen plate I cut off on the back too. I am in the process of building and painting the figs, but I think I will use just 2 or 3 at most.

progress then....















Hope to get decals on tomorrow.

Cheers Pete
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Posted: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 - 09:55 AM UTC
Whoa.. PETE! The Jagd looks SWEET!

I know this has nothing to do with modeling but the Chieftain requires that the springs are anchored with a plastic pin. HUH? No way, you know that's a bad idea.




So I rummaged through my rat pack stuff and found some wire brads about the same size (don't count the top nail as it's too large in OD) so, a slight re-drill and snip the length to match that little plastic pin there and we're going to get through the next step.



Just a little trimming to achieve the right length and we're set!

So while I get by this next process I'll think about the paint.



~ Jeff
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Posted: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 - 12:58 PM UTC
Peter:Holy spit Dude,That is outstanding work It looks great.

Jeff S:Nice upgrade,I don't understand that with all the other metal parts,they couldn't have thrown those in too. Jeff T.
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Posted: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 - 01:09 PM UTC
Okay, last pictures on the subject.





Next the shocks and the covers PLUS the return rollers and we should be close!



~ Jeff
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Posted: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 - 03:41 PM UTC
Wow Jeff that looks like it was a major op. But it looks good, and I can't wait to see the main hull coming together.

Pete
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Posted: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 - 10:05 PM UTC
@Jeff S.--way to improvise, adapt, and overcome! It is looking good.

@Pete--speaking of looking good, your Jag looks awesome! Very nice indeed.

Sludge wash started on the horse's armor. It was meant to set the steel color, shade the chain mail, and fill in the panel lines.

Some 'before and after' comparison shots:



The knight gets the treatment next.

Keith
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Posted: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 - 11:48 PM UTC
Keith:nice my friend, it def looks better with the wash. You could try dry brushing the silver over the top to bring out the shiny bits again....just a suggestion. But nice work.

Jeff: I am glad my Jagd had plastic suspension buddy, good job my man.

Thanks for the comments guys, some way to go yet but still hope to be done by end of week.....unless i build a dio base lol.

Pete
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Posted: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 - 11:55 PM UTC
Keith,gaining now my friend. The wash makes a big difference.Jeff T.
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Posted: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 - 11:58 PM UTC

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@Jeff S.--way to improvise, adapt, and overcome!
Keith




Okay Sergeant Thomas Highway (Keith), glad you noticed!

The weathering on your project does make a HUGE difference. Nice work!


BTW... I didn't have to enlarge the mounting holes for the spring anchors but I did have to on the damper holes with a 1/16" bit to accommodate the plastic pins. There's really no pressure at that spot so the plastic pins provided in the kit are fine.

I am still building this to keep in mind that in the future it could be RC'd.



~ Jeff
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Posted: Saturday, June 22, 2013 - 04:53 AM UTC
No pictures (as promised) but I finished the lower hull, with a few minor changes.

Except for the road and return wheels it's time to move on to the modeling fun! Pictures later.

Now it's time to camo a V-2 rocket.



~ Jeff
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Posted: Saturday, June 22, 2013 - 10:04 AM UTC
Paint,Man,Paint Jeff T.
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Posted: Saturday, June 22, 2013 - 10:36 AM UTC
Anyone know the difference in grades of the Mr. Surfacer product?

I'm thinking the turret needs some casting effect, so would the 1200 be best? Is that a finer texture and the 500 a course grade?



~ Jeff
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Posted: Saturday, June 22, 2013 - 10:49 AM UTC
yup Jeff, 1200 is a finer grain/texture

check this link here
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Posted: Monday, June 24, 2013 - 12:30 AM UTC
Whoa no pics Jeff lol.

Heres a few of my Jaggypanther. Oh by the way guys, decided to build a base ....... must be mad. I want to put it in the Dundee show in August, so went for a base.
Anyway heres the Jaggynettle and figs, although figs need faces painted (thats only base coat) and a little more work on the uniforms.







took the schurtzen off and redid it...better me thinks.






need to dirty the rope up a little more.


This is after a layer of pigments and oil stains.


most of the unifrom work was done with AB including the shading. but I think it needs a little dry brushing too.


Now not surre if I like it with lots of pigment...like this

or as it is...like this


thats it for now...some base work today.

Later guys
Pete
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Posted: Monday, June 24, 2013 - 01:58 AM UTC

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Hey Pete and Jeff!

Not much progress since it was Fathers Day and all but I did manage to build the dampers/shocks and the suspension covers!



Sorry I'm not as good at the camera as Jeff T is, but I manage. The next step will be assembling them on the hull so some painting will be next.

I wonder what color I should get? Any advice?



~ Jeff




Unless you are going to make some serious modifications to this kit the only colour that could be used is Deep Bronze Green, this is because the kit is a model of a prototype that never saw service.
The hull front of the kit shows the metal covers that were put over the hull front to disguise it`s true shape when the tank was first shown to the public in the late 60`s, and the engine decks are very different to the production version.

Malc.
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Posted: Monday, June 24, 2013 - 06:00 AM UTC
Hey thanks for the reply!

Yeah, I knew that about the front glacis... pity really and I don't think I will attempt to change it either.

I settled for a Hunter Green. Let's see how we turn out.



~ Jeff
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Posted: Tuesday, June 25, 2013 - 02:41 PM UTC
@Pete--looks great. Can't wait to see what you do with a base.

As promised--the knight got the wash treatment:


Quite a difference from the pre-wash/pre-airbrushed chrome version, eh?


It has been brought to my attention (and I won't name names--Treadgeek ) that not everyone knows what a 'sludge wash' is. I am by no means an expert at any technique, and a matter-of-fact my sludge wash is just a pin wash gone bad.

The steps:
1. Apply a coat of Future and let it dry a few days
2. Mix a batch of artist oils for whatever shade you're after
3. Thin it, not too thin and not to thick. There's a learning curve
4. Brush it on the subject ensuring it gets in all the cracks and crevasses
5. Let dry for a period. The longer it sets the less will come off/the darker it will look
6. Wipe it off with a soft cloth or paper towel. Use cotton swabs for tight places
7. Set aside to dry for a few days
8. Reapply as necessary



It works on armor and aircraft too:




Keith
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Posted: Tuesday, June 25, 2013 - 03:49 PM UTC
Great work Keith, the Knight looks great buddy. A good tip on the sludge wash too for those who are not aware.


JEFF - where is our Cheiftain?

Pete
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Posted: Tuesday, June 25, 2013 - 09:23 PM UTC
Peter: Man, your Jag is looking very nice. I like the re-do on the Shurtzen, and the figures are coming along very well too I never am good with them. As far as the pigments go, I think less is more in this case. It would be a shame to cover up all that great chipping and paint work.
I do have one concern though, and please don't take this the wrong way as this is only my opinion and I am only trying to help. The rope,to me anyway, looks a little large. It was the first thing I thought of when I saw the pics. Just my 2 cents

Keith:Boy,what a change from the bright chrome you started with, and for the better I must say The SBS was a big help to me too. I'm thinking that the Future step is VERY important so that you can remove the wash from the places you don't want it,right?
I'm also thinking that your Knight is very lucky,cause back in the day,I don't think they washed all that often..... eeeeeeeewwwwwwwwwwww
Jeff T.
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Posted: Tuesday, June 25, 2013 - 10:29 PM UTC

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JEFF - where is our Cheiftain?

Pete




Paints a dryin'. Didn't think that was exciting enough for pictures.

You've seen the lower hull too much now.

I'll be back on it soon. Nice work everyone!



~ Jeff