Jeremy, I have a shelf of alternative history aircraft I built based on the concept of the the South leaving the Union. What you have is the US is composed of regional confederacies. Other world changes include European powers are still all present. WW1 happened but didn't play out the same. Basically, it's become a series of skirmishes and proxy wars between the European powers. It's set in the 1930s so the emphasis is on aircraft.
I recycle alot of my kits. I'm very likely to pull a kit off the shelf and break it down to make it into one thing and end up making something else. I bought Academy's M551 Sheridan to build as a Sheridan, but with the longterm goal to rebuild as a mock-up vehicle at the NTC. I even picked up an old Lindberg T-54 to borrow the turret but instead built it as an Egyptian T-55 with the US smoke launchers and British 105mm gun. The Lindberg kit is pretty ancient so I already plan on remaking this one with a better base kit at some point.
By the way, the panzerschreck picture you posted is a wagon to hold them and rounds for infantry. It was horsedrawn and the 8.8s were never intended to be fired while mounted to the wagon. Dragon made a kit of it.
http://militarymodels.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/100_4364.jpg
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Posted: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 - 02:03 PM UTC
Yeah, I hope it wasn't a launching platform! As I already pointed out two of the launchers are pointing the wrong way. Oops?
Tiger_213
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Posted: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 - 04:27 PM UTC
I figured I should post this here and on EoD II;
http://carmensminiaturepainting.blogspot.com/2012/07/machinas-tow-truck-and-weapons-wip.html
http://carmensminiaturepainting.blogspot.com/2012/07/machinas-tow-truck-and-weapons-wip.html
spoons
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Posted: Friday, February 01, 2013 - 04:58 AM UTC
hi guys
some nice models coming along..
chris this is what if just point them the right way
Heres the weapon for my hummwv mrap,i had a trumpy rws and reading reviews of its i decided to use it in this mod to get rid.
its got a legend mini gun mated to it!
some nice models coming along..
chris this is what if just point them the right way
Heres the weapon for my hummwv mrap,i had a trumpy rws and reading reviews of its i decided to use it in this mod to get rid.
its got a legend mini gun mated to it!
vonHengest
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Posted: Friday, February 01, 2013 - 07:50 AM UTC
Alex: Quit giving me more ideas!
And thanks for the link on the cart, makes perfect sense.
Christopher: I am at a loss at what to say about that one haha... Nice truck btw, looks like a very small kit. Is it really RHD, or are the photos mirrored?
Stephen: Those Legend miniguns are awesome!
And thanks for the link on the cart, makes perfect sense.
Christopher: I am at a loss at what to say about that one haha... Nice truck btw, looks like a very small kit. Is it really RHD, or are the photos mirrored?
Stephen: Those Legend miniguns are awesome!
Tiger_213
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Posted: Friday, February 01, 2013 - 07:57 AM UTC
RHD? I have no clue. I just came across it in Google. You find the weirdest stuff through their searches.
Someone really should build the commo/AT Donkey though!
Or;
Someone really should build the commo/AT Donkey though!
Or;
zontar
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Posted: Friday, February 01, 2013 - 08:13 AM UTC
Great images guys!!!
I think the AT Donkey is the command variant.
Stephen: love the minigun. My concern is that you only have about half a second of ammo! Did the Legend kit come with the wiring, or did you add that?
Chris: I think you should tackle that Russian super tank.
Happy Modeling, -zon
I think the AT Donkey is the command variant.
Stephen: love the minigun. My concern is that you only have about half a second of ammo! Did the Legend kit come with the wiring, or did you add that?
Chris: I think you should tackle that Russian super tank.
Happy Modeling, -zon
vonHengest
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Posted: Friday, February 01, 2013 - 08:37 AM UTC
When in doubt, throw as many BT, T-34, and KV turrets as you can onto the longest hull possible! And throw in a Katyusha just for good measure
Tiger_213
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Posted: Friday, February 01, 2013 - 10:16 AM UTC
Quoted Text
When in doubt, throw as many BT, T-34, and KV turrets as you can onto the longest hull possible! And throw in a Katyusha just for good measure
Or throw one of it's own turrets at it. Supposedly the KV-5 actually saw combat and one of the theories, and more likely reasons for it's demise was one of the turrets was blinded by smoke and dust and accidentally shot one of the other turrets. Go figure.
Zon, I'm actually planning on building the Japanese O-I Super Heavy. Still trying to figure out what I'll do for the tracks and weapons. Plus I don't have enough Evergreen to start it yet anyways. In /35th it's over eleven inches long. Might join the Super Heavy campaign if I bother to start it.
spoons
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Posted: Friday, February 01, 2013 - 01:36 PM UTC
Hi guys i ordered the legend #1191 duke set,and i have a eduard rhino set and want to know if i can use the duke and rhino on the same vehicle?
zontar
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Posted: Friday, February 01, 2013 - 01:36 PM UTC
Chris: That would be cool to see. Quite a beast.
Happy Modeling, -zon
Happy Modeling, -zon
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Posted: Friday, February 01, 2013 - 10:25 PM UTC
Zon, I'm going to spend the weekend working on my drawings for the O-I. At least I have a little wiggle room with the subject. It'll likely come out looking like a Type 95 Chi-Ro and a KV series tank. Should be fun, at least the Japanese didn't really bother with many curved surfaces.
Oh and nice comment about commo/AT Donkey, I just noticed that.
Oh and nice comment about commo/AT Donkey, I just noticed that.
Rob_Haelterman
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Posted: Saturday, February 02, 2013 - 07:23 AM UTC
regarding the donkey: this might help
http://www.onthewaymodels.com/reviews/TAS/TAS011.htm
:-)
And here is my entry.
Cheers
R
http://www.onthewaymodels.com/reviews/TAS/TAS011.htm
:-)
And here is my entry.
Cheers
R
Tiger_213
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Posted: Saturday, February 02, 2013 - 07:28 AM UTC
Quoted Text
regarding the donkey: this might help
http://www.onthewaymodels.com/reviews/TAS/TAS011.htm
:-)
And here is my entry.
Cheers
R
Great, something else I suddenly feel I need to buy, thanks Rob.
zontar
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Posted: Saturday, February 02, 2013 - 02:39 PM UTC
Quoted Text
Quoted Textregarding the donkey: this might help
http://www.onthewaymodels.com/reviews/TAS/TAS011.htm
:-)
And here is my entry.
Cheers
R
Great, something else I suddenly feel I need to buy, thanks Rob.
Me too!! To think a picture as silly as that and there's a resin sculpt of the thing! This is too funny to pass up
Happy Modeling,-zon
spoons
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Posted: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 - 01:27 PM UTC
Got the armoured rear body done on the hummwv,going to leave showing the vehicle until all sub-assemblies done
Bluestab
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Posted: Thursday, February 07, 2013 - 09:50 AM UTC
Kimmie time?
Old Alan Panzer II/c and the Dragon 7.5cm Light Gun. The Alan kit makes me say bad words, so I figured I could just have fun with it.
Mocked up to give you an idea of what I am going for.
Broken partially down. Removed the tracks and some of the running gear and one of the fenders. I didn't want to risk breaking the other one. Those are rubber tracks instead of the kit's brittle individual links.
Gun mount and shield assembly. Lots of test fitting, trial & error. Lots of cardstock sacrificed to the model gods. Prepainted under the gun and shield. The kit's 2cm gun is garbage so I switched it out with one from the spares. The coax MG came from the spares as well.
You can see the 2cm and MG here. The turret is permanently stuck at that elevation. I'm not really sure how or why it got like that. I'm guessing it dried like that after one of the prior attempts to finish it.
The kit is coming together. I'm going to tweak the stowage some and then start on the side shields. I'm probably not going to try to add shurzen to the turret. Instead, I may go with spaced armor. This is an infantry support weapon.
Old Alan Panzer II/c and the Dragon 7.5cm Light Gun. The Alan kit makes me say bad words, so I figured I could just have fun with it.
Mocked up to give you an idea of what I am going for.
Broken partially down. Removed the tracks and some of the running gear and one of the fenders. I didn't want to risk breaking the other one. Those are rubber tracks instead of the kit's brittle individual links.
Gun mount and shield assembly. Lots of test fitting, trial & error. Lots of cardstock sacrificed to the model gods. Prepainted under the gun and shield. The kit's 2cm gun is garbage so I switched it out with one from the spares. The coax MG came from the spares as well.
You can see the 2cm and MG here. The turret is permanently stuck at that elevation. I'm not really sure how or why it got like that. I'm guessing it dried like that after one of the prior attempts to finish it.
The kit is coming together. I'm going to tweak the stowage some and then start on the side shields. I'm probably not going to try to add shurzen to the turret. Instead, I may go with spaced armor. This is an infantry support weapon.
Rob_Haelterman
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Posted: Sunday, February 10, 2013 - 07:24 AM UTC
Should have picked a better fitting kit (and one that was 100% plastic), but we're not giving up....
gcdavidson
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Posted: Sunday, February 17, 2013 - 01:14 PM UTC
Couple more whiffers on the go:
AVGP 4x4 Recce Car "Weasel":
Heavy Infantry Assault Vehicle (HIAV) "Wapiti"
AVGP Multi Mission Effects Vehicle "Insert Canadian Mammal name here"
AVGP Expanded Mobility Gun Tractor
AVGP 4x4 Recce Car "Weasel":
Heavy Infantry Assault Vehicle (HIAV) "Wapiti"
AVGP Multi Mission Effects Vehicle "Insert Canadian Mammal name here"
AVGP Expanded Mobility Gun Tractor
17741907
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Posted: Sunday, February 17, 2013 - 01:35 PM UTC
Great works Graeme....
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Posted: Sunday, February 17, 2013 - 04:39 PM UTC
Graeme, how about for the AVGP Multi Mission Effects Vehicle calling it the "Wolverine".
And some nice looking vehicles.
And some nice looking vehicles.
vonHengest
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Posted: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 - 01:12 PM UTC
Stephen: Waiting for next update!
Rob: I've seen far worse, as I'm sure you have as well. Looking pretty good, and I'm pretty sure I have that kit in my stash as well...
Alex: Ok, now I'm wondering which is the "main" gun here?
Graeme: !! Crazy works you have going on there, you are a machine! My favorite is the HIAV, but they are all very cool!
Rob: I've seen far worse, as I'm sure you have as well. Looking pretty good, and I'm pretty sure I have that kit in my stash as well...
Alex: Ok, now I'm wondering which is the "main" gun here?
Graeme: !! Crazy works you have going on there, you are a machine! My favorite is the HIAV, but they are all very cool!
spoons
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Posted: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 - 04:36 AM UTC
YAAAAA graemes building modern watif's.
Well finally got into modeling room
and arfter some trial and error.....
Also managed to grab these for a bargin,the verlinden was £4.00 and the M1114 was from china!
Well finally got into modeling room
and arfter some trial and error.....
Also managed to grab these for a bargin,the verlinden was £4.00 and the M1114 was from china!
Posted: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 - 05:52 PM UTC
[quote]
The big multiturreted monster shown here is called a "KV-6" (not KV-5) but the image shown is actually a prank, an April Fools joke. It never existed.
The real KV-5 looked like this:
http://henk.fox3000.com/Kv/kv5/01.jpg
There was no real KV-6 although there is discussion that the first prototype of the experimental KV-7 flame tank was initially designated KV-6. The KV-7 looked like this:
http://henk.fox3000.com/Kv/kv7-1/1/02.jpg
Physically, it is not possible for a tank to exist as the image shows. It has been known since well before WW II that there is a range of length to width ratios that permit a tracked vehicle to be turned and to manoeuvre. The Soviets of WW II were not stupid. They knew this ratio range and their vehicles kept to it. The T-28 and T-35 were right at the outer edge of this ratio range and were apparently horrible to try to turn, wearing out differentials & tracks at an alarming rate. The concept in the image is almost 3 times as long as a T-28. It simply would not be designed.
Stories of it shooting off it's own turret are also rubbish and part of the prank.
As for building one, it's been done. The model shown here:
http://cfs12.tistory.com/image/31/tistory/2009/11/30/20/42/4b13afaa21b60
won awards at the AMPS National Convention about 5 years ago, but was competing in the "Fictional" category.
It's fun as a what if, but it's not real. Not at all.
:)
Paul
Quoted Text
Or throw one of it's own turrets at it. Supposedly the KV-5 actually saw combat and one of the theories, and more likely reasons for it's demise was one of the turrets was blinded by smoke and dust and accidentally shot one of the other turrets.
The big multiturreted monster shown here is called a "KV-6" (not KV-5) but the image shown is actually a prank, an April Fools joke. It never existed.
The real KV-5 looked like this:
http://henk.fox3000.com/Kv/kv5/01.jpg
There was no real KV-6 although there is discussion that the first prototype of the experimental KV-7 flame tank was initially designated KV-6. The KV-7 looked like this:
http://henk.fox3000.com/Kv/kv7-1/1/02.jpg
Physically, it is not possible for a tank to exist as the image shows. It has been known since well before WW II that there is a range of length to width ratios that permit a tracked vehicle to be turned and to manoeuvre. The Soviets of WW II were not stupid. They knew this ratio range and their vehicles kept to it. The T-28 and T-35 were right at the outer edge of this ratio range and were apparently horrible to try to turn, wearing out differentials & tracks at an alarming rate. The concept in the image is almost 3 times as long as a T-28. It simply would not be designed.
Stories of it shooting off it's own turret are also rubbish and part of the prank.
As for building one, it's been done. The model shown here:
http://cfs12.tistory.com/image/31/tistory/2009/11/30/20/42/4b13afaa21b60
won awards at the AMPS National Convention about 5 years ago, but was competing in the "Fictional" category.
It's fun as a what if, but it's not real. Not at all.
:)
Paul
spoons
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Posted: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 - 02:06 AM UTC
Hi guys
This one's almost done..
This one's almost done..