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Official Suez Stripes 50 Years - Part II
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Posted: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 - 11:06 PM UTC

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if anybody has some Egypt EAF roundels in spare.... I would be very interested in them!
Paul



Paul, I think I may have some but I have to dig for them a little. Let me know if you still need them and I'll see what I can find.



Gary, that would be very nice. I'm surely interested in them if you still can find them. I send you a PM.


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You dont get the white stripes with the green bands but I sprayed them myself.A good exercise in masking



Nigel, I'm afraid that is also the case with the Suez stripes on the Harvard and I'm NOT looking forward to it, because I'm not so good in maskings. But it's a job that must be done and indeed it's a good exercise.
I just cross my fingers and see what it brings... (oh, no.. crossing my fingers during spraying would not be a good idea...) BTW thanks for mentioning the decals at Hannants. If Gary can't find his anymore I will take my change with these.

Paul
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Posted: Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 05:22 AM UTC
Paul.
Id never hand painted any markings and I too was dreading this,but Holdfast gave me a tip which made it really easy.
Mask of the area of the stripe and spray it white.If you can,try not to spray the very edge of the white area,but dont worry too much if you go all the way up to the tape edge.
Now the fun bit,,the thin edges to the white bands.
Tape 2 brand new #11 scalpel blades together,and using a steel ruler cut down a strip of Tamiya masking tape. You'll get a really thin strip of tape. If you need a thicker stripe just put some plastic card between the 2 blades.Lay this against the edge of the white band youve sprayed,and then mask the middle of the white band.
Peel of the strip of thin tape and your left with a perfectly even band.
Spray this the outer edge colour,,on my Sea Fury this was green.
When you remove the masking ,,hey presto,,a white band with prefectly even green edges!
Sounds a lot harder than it actually is to do.
Best of luck,,take your time and mask it as many times as you need until your happy with it and you'll be fine!
Hope this makes sense,,but if not,,just PM me and I'll try to explain it a bit more clearly.
Nige
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Posted: Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 05:45 AM UTC

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Gary, that would be very nice. I'm surely interested in them if you still can find them. I send you a PM.



Hi Paul,

Check your email, I sent a jpeg of what I have...

Gary
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Posted: Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 02:16 PM UTC
Goodmorning! (well, it's morning over here...),

@ Nigel; thanks for that tip! I'll sure give it a try and post the results over here!

@ Gary: many thanks for the email! A reply is in your mailbox!

@ INDIA11A:
That's a nice looking "mish-mash" Sherman! How many different kits did you use? I count at least 5 different sorts of plastic, am I right?
The battle damage looks good.Looking forward to see the tank painted!

Paul
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Posted: Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 05:46 PM UTC
Thanx Paul, Its a MP Models hull, with nose, engine deck,& suspension from Academy (2 different kits), turret (VC & M4A1) from Dragon, side skirts from Italeri, idler and front fenders from Tamiya (M4A3) and misc bits and piececs from ???? a bit of PE and plasticard add a dash of glue, shake well and ... or is that the cake recipe

Thanx Doug :-) :-)
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Posted: Sunday, August 20, 2006 - 01:09 AM UTC

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So, my progress has not been at all very fast but I thought I'd post a photo of the detail work so far on my Mystère. I've tried to improve the cockpit area, which in the kit is only a hole with a very simple seat - so far, I've added an instrument panel made up of parts from an Airfix Henchel Hs 126 and a Heller Viggen (!) as seen on the pic. Also a plate of plastic card has been placed in front of the cockpit to close off an area for nose weight.



I was somewhat aghast when I took a look at the kit myself. There don't seem to be a whole lot I could find on the Mystere. There's probably a ton of stuff in France. I was thinking that I'd have to fashion intake trunks as well. The nose piece is quite shallow so I don't think a blank wall would look all that convincing. I suppose the quick way is to fashion intake covers.

I'm making next to no progress on the Sea Hawk. Work is claiming a lot of my time. I'm still working on carving out the gun troughs and trying not to think about the painting and decal stages.



Gary, thanks for the comment!

Yes, this Mystère kit is quite crude...and I have also not been able to find much written material or reference pics on the plane at all. Are you also planning on building yours for this campign? I've just gotten back from holidays so not that much has progressed since my last posting. but the fuselage is put together with nose weight included and tonight I am working on filling quite some horrendous gaps around the wing roots! I am also thinking of trying to paint some panels in different metal shades with the help of Alclad II.

Happy modeling!

Regards, Peter
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Posted: Friday, August 25, 2006 - 08:13 AM UTC
How goes the builds fellows??? I'm just about done with one more...an old IDF shermie this time...

The best,
Gary
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Posted: Friday, August 25, 2006 - 04:53 PM UTC

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Yes, this Mystère kit is quite crude...and I have also not been able to find much written material or reference pics on the plane at all. Are you also planning on building yours for this campign? I've just gotten back from holidays so not that much has progressed since my last posting. but the fuselage is put together with nose weight included and tonight I am working on filling quite some horrendous gaps around the wing roots! I am also thinking of trying to paint some panels in different metal shades with the help of Alclad II.


Looks like I'll be lucky to finish my Sea Hawk by deadline. Unless a miracle occurs, there is no way I'll do the Grand Slam.
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Posted: Friday, August 25, 2006 - 06:45 PM UTC
Woohoo everybody.

I'm in china once again, but this time I've seen traces of a hobby store. I hope to find it again tomorrow, so if anyone have strange questions about Trumpeters more local editions - hopefully I can get, at least a primary note of, the "what to gets" here.

My P 51 and Vampire sleeps well in Sweden. Björn (who manages this group with the swift hands of Gandalf the grey) can tell you how nice THAT is. Propably cold, grey, wet and gloomy. But hopefully I get a week or two to finish the Mustang, and maybe even the Vampire, in the nearest future.

I just got to tell Pedro how incredibly nice the Sherman is. Just get a flight-helmeted Odd guy out the hatch, and I promise to whistle the song from "Kellys heroes" through any vocal means possible!

As a comment I can say that I just read "Hope" by Herrman Wouk lately, and got a coloured but propably at least halfway relevant view on the 1956 sinai campaign. It's rather Israeli-twisted, but gives a bit of meat to the history about what happened. Read it - but keep the right shade of glasses on., will ya;-)
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Posted: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 - 10:35 PM UTC

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I'm in china once again, but this time I've seen traces of a hobby store. I hope to find it again tomorrow, so if anyone have strange questions about Trumpeters more local editions - hopefully I can get, at least a primary note of, the "what to gets" here.



Hey Tony, China sounds great! Since the Chinese are known for incredible knock offs of almost anything, do you have to be careful when it comes to model kits? I'm sure the Chinese government won't allow Trumpeter knock offs!?

Have a great time there,
Gary
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Posted: Monday, September 04, 2006 - 08:20 PM UTC
Progress report:

A couple of Shermans I'm working on. The early M3 is an old partially built model from my youth I have dismantled and rebuilt as an upgunned IDF tank for the Suez campaign and the other is an Academy Super Sherman.



Cheers...
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Posted: Monday, September 04, 2006 - 08:42 PM UTC
Hi Gary, Shermies looking good! I know it's a WIP but the red on the M4 tracks looks quite strange for rust, will it stay there ?
And one funny thing: is it the photo angle, or in reality the M51 looks to be smaller than the M4?

Cheers
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Posted: Monday, September 04, 2006 - 11:03 PM UTC

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Hi Gary, Shermies looking good! I know it's a WIP but the red on the M4 tracks looks quite strange for rust, will it stay there ?
And one funny thing: is it the photo angle, or in reality the M51 looks to be smaller than the M4?



Good questions Greg. I think the red is enhanced by the photograph but I think I will take your good advice and tone it down some. I may have to take another look at the size difference. The M51 doesn't have it's tracks on but still?! It could be that 4 decades that separate the manufacture of these models has caused shrinkage???

Thanks again,

Gary
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Posted: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 - 10:31 PM UTC

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the red on the M4 tracks looks quite strange for rust, will it stay there ?
And one funny thing: is it the photo angle, or in reality the M51 looks to be smaller than the M4?



Hey Greg, I think the red was due in part to the photograph but I touched the tracks up with rust brown and they look much better to me anyway. The Academy M51 seems to be almost 1/4 inch shorter in the chassis. It does appear smaller as well?? Can anyone verify if this is just a model thing or did they shrink in reality which obviously is unlikely!?



Cheers, Gary
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Posted: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 - 06:56 AM UTC
Late to the party but count me in. That is, if I can get a little help.

A kitbashed Sherman is out of my league, I simply don't know enough about them. But can one of the new AFV Club Centurion 5/1's be backdated? Or a Tamiya Centurian 3 updated? Also, if someone can point me to a decent photo of a Centurion in the campaign, I'd be much obliged.

Otherwise I'm probably going to do a T34/85, or an SU-100.
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Posted: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 - 07:11 PM UTC

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Also, if someone can point me to a decent photo of a Centurion in the campaign, I'd be much obliged.



Hi Dan,

Check your email, I sent some IDF Centurion photos.

Gary
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Posted: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 - 10:49 PM UTC
Hey. Did try to post a under the way pic of my wywern, but could not, repeatnot do it. So, in a how to do it for dummies like myself, How can I upload pic in this,here forum??? Please
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Posted: Saturday, September 09, 2006 - 07:45 PM UTC

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So, in a how to do it for dummies like myself, How can I upload pic in this,here forum???



Triumph, I'll see if I can explain: You click on the photos tab at the top of this page which takes you to the kitmakers photo site. If not already registered, you do so and create your own photo gallery account there. Upload photos to your account and once you’ve done that, you can cut and paste the address of your photos into this forum when you post. For the example, I removed the closed brackets at each end, you would leave these in place,

Example: img]https://gallery.kitmaker.net/data/16775/medium/m60_a1_Patton6.jpg[/img

with enclosed brackets:


This is the way to post photos as it occurs to me. Somebody else may be more helpful if what I have said is an oversimplification!

Good Luck from a fellow dummie, Gary
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Posted: Monday, September 11, 2006 - 12:08 AM UTC

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So, in a how to do it for dummies like myself, How can I upload pic in this,here forum???



Triumph, I'll see if I can explain: You click on the photos tab at the top of this page which takes you to the kitmakers photo site. If not already registered, you do so and create your own photo gallery account there. Upload photos to your account and once you’ve done that, you can cut and paste the address of your photos into this forum when you post. For the example, I removed the closed brackets at each end, you would leave these in place,

Example: img]https://gallery.kitmaker.net/data/16775/medium/m60_a1_Patton6.jpg[/img

with enclosed brackets:


This is the way to post photos as it occurs to me. Somebody else may be more helpful if what I have said is an oversimplification!

Good Luck from a fellow dummie, Gary




Thank you ever so much. I`ll try itagain
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Posted: Monday, September 11, 2006 - 12:38 AM UTC


Sure hope this works now
A pic of my trumpeter Wywern. Of course there is some work left. cleaning up the demacation line between the sky and dark sea gray, some decals, some dirt and dust, some weapons( a 1000£ bomb some he rockets and extra fuel. And final fittings.
Hope youl`l like it
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Posted: Monday, September 11, 2006 - 08:23 AM UTC

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Sure hope this works now
A pic of my trumpeter Wywern.



Looks like it worked great Triumph, glad you got the hang of photo posting. Excellent Wywern also. Bravo.

Gary
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Posted: Sunday, September 17, 2006 - 07:23 PM UTC
Hi again y'all.

I'm safely home from China, but couldn't find any good supply of kits there. It seems like the hobby of the day is card models in paper.

Anyway, the Mustang #39 is finally in the paintshop. I tried to cheat by preshading panel lines with a black felt tip marker, but I'm not sure how it will look in the end. I'm afraid the lines got to even, but we'll se that in a few days when I got new pics up.

My main concern right now is the deadline. When does PolarBear close the hangar doors? I fear that the Vampire is too far from ready to be finished, but the Mustang will.

By the way. I'm going to Duxford for the autumn airshow, so if anyone want some photos taken for reference, just give me a hint of what, and I'll see what I can do.
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Posted: Monday, September 18, 2006 - 04:48 AM UTC
Finished the Israeli M50. Dragon M50 with Academy VVSS and Italeri engine deck. Painted with Tamiya and weathered with enamels and oils. Now to get the tracks on the Egyptian M4 .






Thanx for looking Doug.
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Posted: Monday, September 18, 2006 - 07:03 PM UTC

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Finished the Israeli M50. Dragon M50
Now to get the tracks on the Egyptian M4 .



Hi Doug,

Looks like a big chunk of iron... Bravo! Can't wait to see the Egyptian...
Still working on mine...

Cheers, Gary