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Boggie
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Posted: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 - 11:54 PM UTC
Seb
Looking like Bushmaster suspension! Would buy the kit just for the guts. Seb how to the dimensions measure up width wise and are the M1117 wheels the same size as the Bushie?
Is there light at the end of the tunnel?
Regards
Bill
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Rhone, France
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Posted: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 - 04:09 AM UTC

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are the M1117 wheels the same size as the Bushie?
Is there light at the end of the tunnel?



Bill
Don't know about the light but the 1:1 M1117 is fitted with 14R20 XZL tires (overall diameter = 49.5 inches, overall width = 15.1 inches ) whereas the Bushmaster is fitted with 395/85R20 XML tires (overall diameter = 46.7 inches, overall width = 15.4 inches)

HTH
Frenchy
seb43
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Posted: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 - 04:10 AM UTC
Bill
I will tell you that tonight
Thanks
Cheers
Seb
Boggie
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Posted: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 - 05:47 AM UTC
Frenchy
Thanks for the stats. Jim Carwell made some nice resin wheels for the Bushmaster so if the suspension is not too wide we could jury rig something using the M1117 suspension and Jim's resin wheels instead of the larger kit M1117 wheels.
If that fails at least I could fabricate the suspension using the M1117 as a model either upsizing or down sizing it'll be better than guessing.
Regards
Bill
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Posted: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 - 06:53 AM UTC

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are the M1117 wheels the same size as the Bushie?
Is there light at the end of the tunnel?



Bill
Don't know about the light but the 1:1 M1117 is fitted with 14R20 XZL tires (overall diameter = 49.5 inches, overall width = 15.1 inches ) whereas the Bushmaster is fitted with 395/85R20 XML tires (overall diameter = 46.7 inches, overall width = 15.4 inches)

HTH
Frenchy



Ok Bill
No problem since the M1078 is fitted with the 395/85 R20 XML
So with the Pro Art set you can fix the issue in case of inaccuracy of Jim's wheels.

Cheers
Seb
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Posted: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 - 06:54 AM UTC

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Sorry Guys
no interior no figures



Kinda takes away all fun with such a kit, so I think I'll head over to HLJ and cancel my pre-order



I don't think it necessarily takes the fun away. In fact there was a time when I loved doing full blown interiors from scratch. However, the rear entryway is usually so full with seldom used items that the rear hatch is rarely even opened. If Big Army's SOP's are anything like ours, the doors are not usually left open at a halt either. In fact, on the few rare occasions I've seen them they were buttoned up.
I will of course do a full interior simply because I have the resources available to do so, but NOT doing it isn't going to detract from this kit in the least.
Captin_Caveman_III
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Louisiana, United States
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Posted: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 - 06:57 AM UTC
hay "seb43" and all you othere's I have lots of photos of this vehicle and it's interior. If any of you want I can start posting them here.
CB1000h
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Pennsylvania, United States
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Posted: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 - 07:30 AM UTC
That would be great
I am going to build this kit when it gets released
I scratched the interior for the XM706E2 I built and posted up about 4 mnths ago
I will be looking forward to seeing this build up
Hisham
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Al Qahirah, Egypt / لعربية
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Posted: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 - 08:11 AM UTC
Captin_Caveman_III, I wish you would post the pics of the interior. That would be much appreciated.

Hisham
seb43
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Paris, France
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Posted: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 - 08:23 AM UTC
@Captain Caveman, this will be great.

@ Rob by using the hobbyboss AAVP turret this can safe you some work on the interior ???

Cheers
Seb

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Posted: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 - 09:00 AM UTC
Hi Seb, nice work dude. Looking good.
Captin_Caveman_III
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Posted: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 - 10:35 AM UTC
Ok first off guys I'm only going to post 4-5 pix in a post so the guys with nonhigh-speed net connetions can see all the photos. Some of my photo a lot of you have sean and some you have not., so here's mud in your eye I'll start with exterior pix then the interior shots.
LASV M1117 Guardian:






Captin_Caveman_III
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Posted: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 - 10:41 AM UTC




Ok now just some pix of us moving to the interior.





Captin_Caveman_III
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Posted: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 - 10:48 AM UTC
Oh and you must ass an IED/RCIED jammer antenna to be up to date or not., it's up to you.




I'm sorry I don't have more interior shots but I'm looking around for more right now. Hay I have an idea HeavyArty lives on a base maybe he can get some interior photos maybe??
cyclones6
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Posted: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 - 02:45 PM UTC
Nice pics...
Im looking for a few pics of the inside of the rear door and interior space around it
Thanks
Evan
seb43
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Posted: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 - 05:25 PM UTC
Dear All
The timoney suspension
I fix the issue on the holes
before

During the process

After


A complete suspension the rear one done


You have to take special care to have the hubs perfectly perpendicular from the suspension unit

Now the hull the inside
lower part

upper part


Glue together and dress up with the ceramic applique, please note the nice anti slid coating






Cheers
Seb
m75
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Posted: Saturday, August 29, 2009 - 06:28 AM UTC
Looking at the model hull photos, can there be any doubt as to the lineage of the 1117? This has V-100 all over it. Guess the Army managed to keep a winner after all!
seb43
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Posted: Saturday, September 05, 2009 - 02:32 PM UTC
Working on the hull
You have to be really careful with the ceramic applique when you glue them in place it is better to do so dry fitting to have a perfect adjustment.









The hatch with horrible ejection pin


The lights
be careful with the all the pieces to glue them in the good orientation and not upside down like me



mother
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Posted: Saturday, September 05, 2009 - 03:31 PM UTC
Moving along wonderfully Seb, looking great. The only thing I would have done was to sand down the window wiper arms, thinned them more to scale. Looking forward to your next progress posting!

Happy Modeling,
Joe
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Tokyo-to, Japan / 日本
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Posted: Saturday, September 05, 2009 - 04:30 PM UTC
Another Trump bugaboo:floating wiper blades.
seb43
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Paris, France
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Posted: Saturday, September 05, 2009 - 05:35 PM UTC
Well Guys
Sorry but Strict OOB then you know what you will get
But yeap see the issue here.
Thanks for looking
Cheers
Seb
sopmod6
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Posted: Saturday, September 05, 2009 - 05:47 PM UTC
The issues with the kit are pretty nil, and seeing as how popular this kit is, I'm sure it'll sell well despite the shortcomings. Most modelers don't care about those nittys much anyways.
I myself will pick one up to compare with my NWM kit.
Ellevenbravo
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Massachusetts, United States
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Posted: Sunday, September 06, 2009 - 01:10 AM UTC
Just saw the picture of the upcoming figure set from Trumpy.

Why do these guys insist on providing M-16's instead of M-4's? The Army hasn't had M-16's issued to troops in OIF / OEF for years.

John



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Posted: Sunday, September 06, 2009 - 11:49 AM UTC
The Antiskid coating is pretty impressive....its dead on accurate to the real one with that texture!
35th-scale
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Posted: Sunday, September 13, 2009 - 10:25 PM UTC
For anyone who's interested, the M1117 is now "In Stock" on HLJ.

Order placed!
Sean