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Posted: Thursday, October 05, 2017 - 01:38 AM UTC
Pasi - Welcome aboard with your Hs-126. Those were used in WW2 also. How is the ICM kit?
Posted: Thursday, October 05, 2017 - 01:40 AM UTC
Robert - Your Panzer I should be just right for our SCW campaign. Does the kit have SCW markings or will you have to find them elsewhere?
Posted: Thursday, October 05, 2017 - 01:47 AM UTC
I broached the box on the Hobby Boss T-26 last night. The tracks are indy links with pins. I hope they are working tracks. We might not need the Fruils.
TotemWolf
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Posted: Thursday, October 05, 2017 - 03:21 AM UTC
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Robert - Your Panzer I should be just right for our SCW campaign. Does the kit have SCW markings or will you have to find them elsewhere?
I will either be painting them or purchasing a set. I do have some good reference pics.
Posted: Friday, October 06, 2017 - 12:55 AM UTC
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Quoted TextRobert - Your Panzer I should be just right for our SCW campaign. Does the kit have SCW markings or will you have to find them elsewhere?
I will either be painting them or purchasing a set. I do have some good reference pics.
Very good. I saw some nice pics & illustrations in the Vanguard book on SCW armor.
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Posted: Friday, October 06, 2017 - 04:49 PM UTC
Ok so I started with( pretty obviously) with step 1!
Not much to that except making sure all the holes get drilled in the right places!
Step 2 is the usual move on to the road wheels and suspension assemblies but I can't be bothered with that right now so I am moving ahead and starting the turret area. A lot of the Spanish civil war pics I have seen show the roof mounted aerial cut away leaving a smaller stubby section remaining so I intend to put the turret together first add the aerial, then cutting it away to leave the lower section still attached to the turret sides. My only issue is the section which fits to the turret roof. I can't find any pictures of the turret roof to see what I should be leaving on there. I suspect I need to leave the insulator?(the cylinder between the aerial and roof surface see pic) and cut away most of the aerial but I am unsure if that is the case. Any ideas
Pic for discussion purposes only!
Paul
Not much to that except making sure all the holes get drilled in the right places!
Step 2 is the usual move on to the road wheels and suspension assemblies but I can't be bothered with that right now so I am moving ahead and starting the turret area. A lot of the Spanish civil war pics I have seen show the roof mounted aerial cut away leaving a smaller stubby section remaining so I intend to put the turret together first add the aerial, then cutting it away to leave the lower section still attached to the turret sides. My only issue is the section which fits to the turret roof. I can't find any pictures of the turret roof to see what I should be leaving on there. I suspect I need to leave the insulator?(the cylinder between the aerial and roof surface see pic) and cut away most of the aerial but I am unsure if that is the case. Any ideas
Pic for discussion purposes only!
Paul
PasiAhopelto
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Posted: Saturday, October 07, 2017 - 05:58 PM UTC
The ICM's HS-126 has quite nice level of detail:
On the other hand the plastic is brittle, and I broke three of four engine supports (N shaped thin parts). Not really an issue, because those are hidden and can easily be replaced by a length of pipe. I think I'll brush liquid cement on other thin parts before removing them from sprue (hoping it will fix any small cracks that could lead to breakage).
And did bit of reading. There were six or seven Hs-126s in Legion Condor. They performed well (in recce and artillery spotting role), and remaining five were handed over to Spain when Germans pulled out. They remained on production until 1941, until they were deemed unsuitable for combat operations in face of enemy fighter presence. But basically they seemed to be an effective in the role they were designed for, and suffered only light losses.
On the other hand the plastic is brittle, and I broke three of four engine supports (N shaped thin parts). Not really an issue, because those are hidden and can easily be replaced by a length of pipe. I think I'll brush liquid cement on other thin parts before removing them from sprue (hoping it will fix any small cracks that could lead to breakage).
And did bit of reading. There were six or seven Hs-126s in Legion Condor. They performed well (in recce and artillery spotting role), and remaining five were handed over to Spain when Germans pulled out. They remained on production until 1941, until they were deemed unsuitable for combat operations in face of enemy fighter presence. But basically they seemed to be an effective in the role they were designed for, and suffered only light losses.
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Posted: Saturday, October 07, 2017 - 10:05 PM UTC
Pasi
Very nice. I love the detail. I'm looking forward to seeing more. I always like the subjects that are not done as often.
Very nice. I love the detail. I'm looking forward to seeing more. I always like the subjects that are not done as often.
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Posted: Saturday, October 07, 2017 - 10:12 PM UTC
I'm waiting for the primer coat on my 'Night Shift' campaign entry to dry, so I started my Pz I. I got the fender brass and the running gear done.
Of course per normal the wheels are not glued in place to facilitate painting and track placement.
Speaking of tracks, the kit comes with individual link tracks. That's what I will tackle next so I can see how it will fit as I move on with the build . I don't wont to glue myself in to a corner so to speak.
Of course per normal the wheels are not glued in place to facilitate painting and track placement.
Speaking of tracks, the kit comes with individual link tracks. That's what I will tackle next so I can see how it will fit as I move on with the build . I don't wont to glue myself in to a corner so to speak.
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Posted: Sunday, October 08, 2017 - 08:43 PM UTC
Some points to note with HobbyBoss T-26:
http://www.panzernet.com/foro4/showthread.php?11926-T-26-de-Hobby-Boss-quot-Aviso-a-navegantes-quot-%28tocho%29&highlight=aviso+navegantes
If you have any problem with the text just let me know
http://www.panzernet.com/foro4/showthread.php?11926-T-26-de-Hobby-Boss-quot-Aviso-a-navegantes-quot-%28tocho%29&highlight=aviso+navegantes
If you have any problem with the text just let me know
hutch2336
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Posted: Friday, October 13, 2017 - 11:49 AM UTC
Hi,
Late start but I have opened a box and got some plastic cut!
I shall attempt to build the Pz I A "Breda", not the Hipm or Masterbox, but a converted turret on the top of a series 3 Pz IA.
I have 3 possible base kits
Time to check references and see which will be the best option.
More soon
Steve H
Late start but I have opened a box and got some plastic cut!
I shall attempt to build the Pz I A "Breda", not the Hipm or Masterbox, but a converted turret on the top of a series 3 Pz IA.
I have 3 possible base kits
Time to check references and see which will be the best option.
More soon
Steve H
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Posted: Monday, October 16, 2017 - 05:22 PM UTC
Nice start here guys! I will select my kit (or kits!) for this one once I'm all done for Telford (IPMS SMW), it's all go for that show at the minute.
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Posted: Tuesday, October 17, 2017 - 06:09 AM UTC
The Pz I b is ready for some paint
Posted: Wednesday, October 18, 2017 - 12:05 AM UTC
Steve - Three kits to choose from would confuse me. How will you decide which is best for the SCW? I have the middle kit kicking around someplace in the stacks . . .
Posted: Wednesday, October 18, 2017 - 12:06 AM UTC
Robert - You are a fast worker! The Panzer 1 is looking good.
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Posted: Friday, October 20, 2017 - 08:08 PM UTC
After a brief look around I decided I needed a bunch more bits before I get too far into this one.
Meng nuts and rivets( I already had the other pack of nuts)
Assorted Masterclub rivets.
Chain (assorted sizes so I can find a reasonable size match to the pictures I have).
Masterclub track set(my god those resin pins are tiny)
Aber Wing nuts. Seems there are a bunch of places I need some of those.
Hopefully that's all I need in the way of extras I needed so I might be able to get on with it now.
Paul
P.s. I found a pic which answered my query into the aerial situation.
Meng nuts and rivets( I already had the other pack of nuts)
Assorted Masterclub rivets.
Chain (assorted sizes so I can find a reasonable size match to the pictures I have).
Masterclub track set(my god those resin pins are tiny)
Aber Wing nuts. Seems there are a bunch of places I need some of those.
Hopefully that's all I need in the way of extras I needed so I might be able to get on with it now.
Paul
P.s. I found a pic which answered my query into the aerial situation.
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Posted: Saturday, October 21, 2017 - 01:18 PM UTC
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Steve - Three kits to choose from would confuse me. How will you decide which is best for the SCW? I have the middle kit kicking around someplace in the stacks . . .
Hi Paul
Apart from an obsessive interest in Panzer I's, a decent photo, and as there were only 4 Breda conversions? supposedly, there are some decent photos on the Web, a good reference book, and there are dozens, but in this case the Panzer tracts No. I-I, is excellent.
The photo starters
Shows the engine and air vent armoured cowls which are only in the Tristar kit, though you could replicate with foil and plasticard
shows some of the series 3 adjustments, wire cutters attached to the jack, rear nearside vision plate blocked off.
Larger glacis access plate with added lifting tab, and a Bosch horn.
All the above are listed on page 66, as features of the series 3 Pz IA.
The Tristar has 4 fuel filler caps, but as they are molded on, 2 can be filled and sanded off, to finish the conversion back to a series 3, as the 4 filler cap were a series 4 upgrade.
There are a few other bits to deal with, but you get the idea.
Time for some yard work as Storm Brian has battered the garden, perhaps some built time later today, hopefully
Regards
Steve H
Posted: Wednesday, November 01, 2017 - 05:01 AM UTC
Paul - I see you circled an area in the picture. What did it tell you?
Posted: Wednesday, November 01, 2017 - 05:02 AM UTC
Steve - Those pictures will be a real aid in your conversion. Very clear!
Posted: Wednesday, November 01, 2017 - 05:10 AM UTC
I have been looking for that darned Zvezda BT-5 kit that I squirreled away someplace good and secure. I REALLY want to build one after reading the book of armor of the Spanish Civil War. I just ordered an Italeri version of the kit on Ebay and it will be here in a few days.
Are there any decal sets available for the SCW BT-5s? If not, possibly something might be made up from the T-26 set and bits & pieces from the Decal Dungeon.
Are there any decal sets available for the SCW BT-5s? If not, possibly something might be made up from the T-26 set and bits & pieces from the Decal Dungeon.
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Posted: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 - 12:26 AM UTC
I got the base coat on but it still needs bit of touch-up here and there.
I still have to paint the tracks, and I have only glued the figure together; so there is still a ways to go.
I still have to paint the tracks, and I have only glued the figure together; so there is still a ways to go.
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Posted: Monday, November 20, 2017 - 12:41 AM UTC
I'll have to make restart with a different model. I messed up mounting up the wing struts, not model's fault this time... By the way, the liquid cement trick solved the issue with fragile thin parts.
Anyway, here's my 2nd try for the group build. A Heinkel He 51B-1 flown by Herwig Knüppel in December 1936. I'll write more about the plane once I start building the kit:
Anyway, here's my 2nd try for the group build. A Heinkel He 51B-1 flown by Herwig Knüppel in December 1936. I'll write more about the plane once I start building the kit:
Posted: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 - 05:42 AM UTC
Looking good Robert! What colors did you use?
Posted: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 - 05:45 AM UTC
The He51 is a long time fav of mine. I have several of the old limited edition kits that Squadron used to market in 1/48 that have not made it to the build stage yet. I look forward to seeing how yours comes out.
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Posted: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 - 08:59 AM UTC
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Tamiya XF-26 Deep Green, XF-10 Flat Brown, and XF-60 Dark Yellow.Looking good Robert! What colors did you use?
I'll have to post a pic but I have the all of basic paint job finshed, including the tracks, and have started painting the fig. I still have do the weathering and finish the fig.
I'm also planning to do a base for it.