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Official BERLIN '45 Campaign Thread!
Brokeneagle
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Posted: Thursday, February 02, 2006 - 07:28 PM UTC
I am new to this site........ can this be joined still and what are the requirements? Sorry but I am interested but a bit overwhelmed
007
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Posted: Thursday, February 02, 2006 - 08:10 PM UTC
Welcome Ian!

Sure thing you can still join the campaign!
You can sign up at the campaign page (just push the "enlist" button).

Here are the rules for the campaign:

CAMPAIGN

The scope of the campaign is:
a. study the history of this specific battle
b. study city / urban diorama's

The Rules and Regs are very specific, so please take notice of them:

1) All entries must be of a Russian or German (or Russian vs. German) scene during the Battle of Berlin 1945 and be located in (or underneath) Berlin. A description of the (historical) background of the entry is encouraged.

1-A) Miliatry figures MUST and civilians figures MAY be included in the scene.

1-B) AFV or civilian vehicles may be included in the scene and are encouraged.

1-C) Aircraft may be included in the scene.

2) Only one (1) entry per participant. Entry may only consist a diorama or vignette!

3) Completed entries should be made by the submission of 3 photographs of the completed diormama. Post the pictures in the Berlin '45 Campaign Gallery

SCALE
Initially the campaign was only for 1:35 scale but also 1:72 and 1:48 scale is allowed.

If there are any remaining questions feel free to post them in this thread or to contact me!

Paul

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Posted: Thursday, February 02, 2006 - 10:59 PM UTC
I'm thinking something along the lines of 10 May '45. Russian troops patrolling, maybe some guarded Wehrmacht prisoners cleaning up, civilains queing, a field kitchen. Maybe a truck full off russians still dealing with their Victory day hangovers.
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Posted: Thursday, February 02, 2006 - 11:10 PM UTC
I have a pretty good start on my sctratchbuilt building and diorama base. Going to be a halftrack or night fight panther in the street, haven't decided.

Details are in the this thread:

https://armorama.kitmaker.net/forums/67692&page=1

Shaun
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Posted: Friday, February 03, 2006 - 02:25 AM UTC
Marc, that sounds good! Specially the hangover figures sound interesting

Shaun, that is some work you describe in that thread!
Impressive!
Brokeneagle
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Posted: Friday, February 03, 2006 - 03:15 PM UTC
I have a small scene from this battle with a damaged js2 and a lone German waitng for the Russians. But I might do a new one around a king tiger near the Tiergarten before the final zoo breakout.
Simon
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Posted: Friday, February 03, 2006 - 06:00 PM UTC

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Are they Gen II figures from Dragon?



No, they're Gen I figures.
Got me ruin today...dio's coming up.

Simon
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Posted: Friday, February 03, 2006 - 10:20 PM UTC
I just signed up and am confident I can finish this in time. I'm building the Zvezda ISU 152 with troops riding on board and want to paint the broad white aerial recognition stripes on it but I haven't seen any evidence of ISUs carrying it apart from this photo

Does anyone know of any others?
Brokeneagle
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Posted: Saturday, February 04, 2006 - 09:42 AM UTC

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. I'm building the Zvezda ISU 152 with troops riding on board and want to paint the broad white aerial recognition stripes on it but I haven't seen any evidence of ISUs carrying it apart from this photo
Does anyone know of any others?



I have another of the same plus a different vehicle ....hope these help.


007
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Posted: Saturday, February 04, 2006 - 11:14 PM UTC
I Googled, Yahood and AltaVita'd yesterday evening to find some pictures of it, but couldn't find any (only the bigger on Pat added too).
Though, it is common that it is typical for Berlin invading AFV's to have those white stripe.
However, there are also pictures of AFV's in Berlin without those stripes.
Was it perhaps a specific divison that use those?
exer
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Posted: Sunday, February 05, 2006 - 02:48 AM UTC
Thanks Paul and Ian. I may go with that scheme, it's an interesting way of numbering; 1151 and 1161. I've also come across some photos showing large grafitti which says "Berlin bleibt Deutsch" which I think I'll paint on a wall in my dio.
Martinnnn
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Posted: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 - 12:45 PM UTC
Hi all,

Almost finished building my 1:72 IS2. Looks pretty good but my god those tracks were horror

I think have the same pic as mentioned in the post above, as I want to paint "Berlin bleibt Deutsch" on my wall as well It's a real nice pic showing a ISU152 in front of that wall.

Martin
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Posted: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 - 05:14 PM UTC

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Almost finished building my 1:72 IS2. Looks pretty good but my god those tracks were horror



Martin, was it the PST kit? I know exactly what you mean! But when they are finnished, they look good.

:-)
Brokeneagle
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Posted: Thursday, February 09, 2006 - 06:59 AM UTC
I am kind of interested in all those dug in turrets and half destroyed panther tanks that they dug in around the city. I might even do something like that. Is it allowed to have two dio's done?
ShermiesRule
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Posted: Thursday, February 09, 2006 - 07:52 AM UTC
I started my broken buildings but the Russian tank got grabbed for another dio. I am now thinking German and Russian CQB among the rubble
Martinnnn
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Posted: Thursday, February 09, 2006 - 03:43 PM UTC
Indeed the PST kit. Except for the tracks it's a decent kit, but it's not like the superb Panther G from dragon I'm building as well! You can see I added some detail and replaced some parts on the IS2 as well.











When is Fruil going to release 1/72 tracks?

Martin
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Posted: Thursday, February 09, 2006 - 08:35 PM UTC
Hi all , I have been doing some research and mulling over ideas and I thought I would share them with you as It might help someone else as well.
I 'll start with some books that I can recomend, then some cool Berlin photo's I like that are helping me plan.


This is the most enthralling read on Berlin that I have found - well worth it!

Another good one , the difference being this goes into a lot more detail and can get heavy if you are not a fanatic on the battle.

Good end of war ref with some Berlin stuff.



Both good shots of the street turrets. Very much Berlin.

full Panther....I am seriously thinking of doing this one.
For the Russian guys.......




And quite possibly the last Tiger 1 in Combat - mid production Brandenberg gate. Knocked out defending the reichstag area.


Tiger 2 Potzdamer Platz


These Photo's are for ref only and come from 'after the battle' Berlin, Armor battles on the Eastern front 2- Concord, Stalins Heavy Tanks - Concord and Panzerwaffe 1945 Vol 1 - Wydawnictwo
Brokeneagle
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Posted: Thursday, February 09, 2006 - 08:52 PM UTC

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I started my broken buildings but the Russian tank got grabbed for another dio. I am now thinking German and Russian CQB among the rubble



Alan have you got any pictures of your broken buildings? I would love to see them.
ShermiesRule
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Posted: Friday, February 10, 2006 - 04:42 AM UTC
Well there really isn't anythig at this point. It's just a couple of walls and floors. No road, no rubble. Maybe this weekend
007
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Posted: Friday, February 10, 2006 - 02:17 PM UTC
Goodmorning Berliners!

(at least, it's morning here, otherwise goodday good evening and goodnight! -pfew, that sounds like Trueman show... :-) )

Well,

@ Ian: the reason I put 1 dio/entrie as maximum was to avoid fastly 'slapped together' diorama's or vignettes. I like to see serious entries, well thought over and discussed in order to fullfill the scope of the campaign:
a. study the history of this specific battle
b. study city / urban diorama's

It had also to do with the new campaign guidelines given by the staff half 2005 (see CCC forum page).

But, if you manage to enter 2 great entries, it's OK !
m:-)

@Alan, sounds good! But what is CQB ??

@ Martin; those models are becoming great. I like the brass wire you used to replace the grips on the PST model. The plastic grips in those kits are way too huge!
Looks good!

Paul
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Posted: Friday, February 10, 2006 - 03:48 PM UTC

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Goodmorning Berliners!

Well,
@ Ian: the reason I put 1 dio/entrie as maximum was to avoid fastly 'slapped together' diorama's or vignettes. I like to see serious entries, well thought over and discussed in order to fullfill the scope of the campaign:
a. study the history of this specific battle
b. study city / urban diorama's

It had also to do with the new campaign guidelines given by the staff half 2005 (see CCC forum page).

But, if you manage to enter 2 great entries, it's OK !
m:-)
Paul



Thanks Paul for the info. The reason trhat I asked about two is that I am planning one around the dug in Panther but I have also just finished a Berlin street turret. Can I enter the street turret even though it is just finished?
007
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Posted: Friday, February 10, 2006 - 05:00 PM UTC
Ian, that's OK. As long as there ar some figures on it as well (a 'must' in the campaign rules, boy am I a hard campaignleader or not?)

Also, the idea of a dug-in Panther or Panther turret is very good! It's typical for the battle in Berlin.
Looking forward to it!

By the way, very nice pictures you posted.
I like the last one very much (Potzdamer Platz) because
of the modern office building in the background.
It's something you don't see so often on WW2 pictures.
007
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Posted: Friday, February 10, 2006 - 05:21 PM UTC
This is the idea that I'm playing with.
A streetscene; on the right the advancing Rusky's, on the left the retreating Krauts entering a shelter / undergoud complex.

I can't draw that good as some others here, but I think it shows the idea a bit.
Please tell me what you all think!



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Posted: Friday, February 10, 2006 - 06:27 PM UTC
Well I was going to build a subway tunnel (u-bahn) in my diorama so basicly I've got a compareable lay-out
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Posted: Friday, February 10, 2006 - 07:44 PM UTC

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@Alan, sounds good! But what is CQB ??



CQB = Close Quarters Battle. Room to room type gun battle