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Operation Market Garden
AlanL
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Posted: Saturday, October 24, 2009 - 02:19 AM UTC
Hi Gary,

The link you posted takes you there and i uploaded a couple of pics of the Mini Scene I did but if you go through Photos to the Kitmaker Current Active Camapigns listing there is no link shown there?

Cheers

Al
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Posted: Saturday, October 24, 2009 - 02:40 AM UTC
Very strange. I can log out (so I have only guest privileges) and do the same process you are using and I see the gallery. Do you see any of the others that I added like "Steel Beasts of the East", "Military Police", "Mighty Wheels 2009"? What is the last gallery listed that you see?

Anyone else in this campaign having the same problem?
AlanL
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Posted: Saturday, October 24, 2009 - 03:08 AM UTC
Hi Gary,

It's there now so problem solved, so are the others you mentioned.

Thanks

Al
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Posted: Saturday, October 24, 2009 - 03:30 AM UTC
Great! I have a feeling some server between Kitmaker and you had the old page you were seeing in its cache and refused to update it with a newer one. It seems the machine has finally given up its death grip on the old page.
bobcat
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Posted: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 - 07:05 AM UTC
Yep i am happy to take it up to 10 months,just dont seem to find anytime at the mo to finish anything off.
Thanks,
Shauny.
erichvon
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Posted: Monday, November 16, 2009 - 08:01 AM UTC
Good news chaps! We've got a six month extension so loads of time to complete your dios etc now
milvehfan
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Posted: Monday, November 16, 2009 - 08:30 AM UTC
that is Great News, After, I had my puter crash and being laid up in the hospital I thought I d miss this, Very Cool Builds here, Ive been reading the posts to catch up, Awesome work Guys. Back to the work bench. milvehfan
AlanL
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Posted: Monday, November 16, 2009 - 09:07 AM UTC
Hi Karl,

That's good news, building has slowed down with the loss of the evening light but I'm still working away slowly. The second scene I wanted to do was based loosley on these two pics:









I need to make a base and I'm working on a damaged jeep to go into the scene.





This one is constructed from the leftover parts of the original 3 plus some scratch building of bits



for the monster I'm working on some more figures in the form of a Vickers MG Crew and a PIAT Team, plus another jeep and a Padre.

Al
guille
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Posted: Monday, November 30, 2009 - 08:18 AM UTC
Hi everyone,
Great to hear about the extension. Maybe I will have time to build and populate that bridge at Arnhem with a few devasted halftracks and Panzers after all. I assume that anything I have built in the last 3 months is fair game for the campaign?

Here is a most recent pix or two of the Tamiya anti-tank unit. I understand there is a problem with this submission and I would like to resolve those. My thoughts were that even though this was an older, outdated unit at this point in the war, it could have easily been used in this battle.

Looking at my reference, A Bridge Too Far by the historian Cornelius Ryan, on page 219 of my version is a map. On the east side of the bridge to Arnhem, Ryan has listed the SS Panzer Grenadiers, as well as Grabner's recon unit. On the other side, where the Brits were largely located, you have a lot of Panzer units- Bittrich's II SS Panzer Corps, as well as the 9th, and 10th.... so it would not be inconceivable if the unit depicted below was a recon/antitank unit, that possibly combined elements of any of the groups above. The antitank gun was an old piece attached to Bittricks II Panzers that was assigned to elements of Grabner recon unit to watch the bridge. They weren't expecting anything, and it was an old gun that needed a tactical home.

It made sense to station this unit here, and in my depiction, you can see the recon guy scanning the river banks for signs of allied troups. You just have to imagine the river, and the bridge... but hopefully that will be forthcoming in about 5 months. For now, I leave you with this mini-dio. Any suggestions or ideas? I know that there was some issues, as I mentioned, I just hope that these can be rectified.

cheers!



AlanL
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Posted: Friday, December 04, 2009 - 05:10 AM UTC
Hi Billy,

Not much activity on the thread for a good while now, so lets hope folks are working away on their various scenes. I haven't done much in the last 8 weeks or more been too busy at work but I hope to get back to a few builds starting this weekend.

Don't know enough about the Germans to comment but are the troops uniforms the correct colour? They look very brown to me but that might just be the light on the photograph.

I've seen this type of AT gun depolyed in a few Op Market Garden pics so you should be OK with you thinking on this one.

Cheers

Al

guille
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Posted: Saturday, December 05, 2009 - 11:28 AM UTC
Hi Al,
Thanks for the input and for the advice concerning color. The figures were originally painted grey- Tamiya Dark Gray as opposed to Field Grey which I believe to be greener. I need to go down and check though. They look brown because of a. the lighting. the second picture above it the better of the two, and b. because I did a sepia oil wash that I am not completely pleased with. They are too 'glazy' as well IMO.

Since we still have some time, I might be able to rework these figures a bit. As it is there are a couple things that still need some paint or touching up in the dio. The ammo cans to start with.

I saw an interesting dio in the Blitz II campaign. It was the one with the German anti-tank gun and the unit was having coffee and shaving in morning before the battle. It was really nice.

Hoping that since I have added more details- the gear and all, it will be more acceptable, but also open to suggestions if not.

cheers

Billy

ps nice work above, Al. You continue to inspire.
AlanL
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Posted: Sunday, December 06, 2009 - 02:26 AM UTC
Hi Billy,

I haven't built anything German in years so can't give much help, but your concept seems sound and the layout and ground work look good for beside the river.

After 8/10 weeks of inactivity I finally got some bench time this morning and made a bit of progress on the damaged jeep.

Added they tyres, two normal and two damaged, some fixings to the rear stays on the stowage frame, front seats seats, bonnet and soem mroe paint.









Al
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Posted: Sunday, December 06, 2009 - 02:51 AM UTC
Good looking Jeep, Alan!

Billy, I noticed that all your builds are painted almost in browns exclusively. Why is that?
As for the troops used, these are wearing early war uniforms, which probably weren't used around the time of Market Garden, would they?
Mobious
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Posted: Sunday, December 06, 2009 - 03:30 AM UTC
Hey Alan, Great stuff on the damaged jeep, just wish you would've posted a shot of the engine compartment. It's a little dark and I can't appreciate your detailing work. Are you planning on adding any bullet of shrapnel damage? Haven't done anything with the PanzerjagerIV. Been on the back burner. The extension will get me started again soon, I hope.
AlanL
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Posted: Sunday, December 06, 2009 - 04:17 AM UTC
Hi Ron and Mo,

thanks for the comments guys.

Mo,

the light has been terrible for pics recently, I took a few with the flash of the engine but even they are not great.





Not a lot of room in there.

On the bullet holes, I had considered it but not sure how best to approach it. This one is for the Mtr Team dio parked and abondoned to the left tof the team. I shall try some experiments on some plastic card and see what might be possible. A few holes around the tyres would be good though, maybe a few through the bonnet.!!
Cheers

Al
Mobious
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Posted: Sunday, December 06, 2009 - 05:52 AM UTC
Alan, I was at one time considering a dio of Berlin 45, with a VW as the focal point. I was thinking that the shrapnel and bullet damage could be achieved by thinning the plastic from the reverse side, then punctured with an xacto knife to give the torn sheet metal effect. Working with scrap styrene would be highly advisable. I, unfortunately, never got past the planning stages so for what it's worth that would be my advice.
I've got to say that is very nice detailing of the engine compartment, hats off to you for another finely crafted airborne jeep. Thanks for posting.
Mo
AlanL
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Posted: Sunday, December 06, 2009 - 06:01 AM UTC
Hi Mo,

I have seen good damage done using foil to replace the plastic, but I am a bit far advanced for that now. I have a spare bonnet and may try experimenting with with that. I could drill some holes and add foil to represent such damage, I shall see if I can come up with anything workable.

Cheers

Al
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Posted: Sunday, December 06, 2009 - 06:28 AM UTC
Alan, if you carefully heat a needle you can replicate bulletholes in a nice way.
Btw it looks like you and Mobious own this thread now. Everyone else KIA/MIA??
AlanL
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Posted: Sunday, December 06, 2009 - 07:07 AM UTC
Hi Ron,

Thanks for the tip, I shall try it out.

Yes, things have been quiet, Karl got the time period extended but everyone seems to have gone absent, but hopefully beavering away on their propjects.

Some updates would be good guys, there are some cool builds going so lets hope you are all able to update.

Al
guille
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Posted: Monday, December 07, 2009 - 10:02 PM UTC
Hi Ron,
The reason my builds are looking brown is because I went a little heavy with an oil based sepia wash. I agree that this is a bit of overkill, and I am not extremely happy with the glossy look.

That being said, I should post some recent pics of that first Wassen SS unit that I started for this dio because over time the glossy effect of the oils diminishes. You can also add the matte finish.

So that is the answer to your first question. Good point about the uniforms. I am not enough of an expert to recognize the difference I suppose. I appreciate the feedback and tips though.
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Posted: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 - 01:34 PM UTC






erichvon
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Posted: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 - 01:44 PM UTC
Ahh that's worked! Excellent! Had a bit of a rethink and am now going large. RAP is almost done complete with wounded Paras and SS. Just need to do the base for it, weather it and put it all together. I'm going to buildthe dio in modules before I do the street itself as that seems more logical (plus a lot easier to handle)
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The dio will have buildings on one side overlooking a park area with a road at the side of it and another building.In the street a halftrack being engaged by the PIAT team. SS moving through the park under fire from a couple of Bren's in the first floor of buildings facing it. Paras moving across the street in preperation for a counter attack

I may have a couple of knocked out vehicles but haven't decided yet. The RAP will fit in somewhere just not sure decided where to put it yet . But now we've got a breathing space
Removed by original poster on 12/10/09 - 06:41:59 (GMT).
AlanL
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Posted: Thursday, December 10, 2009 - 07:53 AM UTC
Hi KArl,

Nice work on the Paras so far, good sense of movement, look forward to developments. You've been busy!!

Al
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Posted: Thursday, December 10, 2009 - 02:04 PM UTC
Nice work on the para's Karl, I especially like the piat team.
Mo