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Red4
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Posted: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 - 01:24 AM UTC

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Matt-
the FlakPanther will make a great companion piece for you KonigsStugPanther.
I just have one observation. With the engine forward- it seems as though it would be possible to recess the Flak gun mount in the hull. Are you mounting it on top or cutting a hole and lowering it down inside the superstructure a little?Nice work so far!
Steve


Thanks for the kudos. I hadn't thought about recessing it, only to mount it above. I will probably add some skirting around it ala, Mobelwagen / Ostwind style....or I may just cut things out and drop her inside. Hmmm. Good question. I'll give that some thought. There is plenty of room no doubt. The areas along the sides could be turned into ammo lockers/stowage bins or, ......yeah. I can see a few possibilities. Thanks for sparking that little bit of headscratching. Back soon with some updates. "Q"
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Posted: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 - 05:48 AM UTC
Slapped on a green disruptive pattern and white cross of Savoy. Paintjob is bit rough (airbrush got out of bed on wrong side that day), but that's the beauty of tanks




Then I added Panzer Grey chips, 3 coats of filter (MiG Productions grey for dark yellow) and a wash with MiG Neutral wash




Pastels next!
Red4
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Posted: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 - 08:44 AM UTC
Looks great Neal. I have a friend who has a saying he uses when something goe wrong with an armor build..."Thank God for mud and pine boughs" Keep at it. I took Steve's idea and ran with it. I like it better recessed. Thanks for the suggestion Steve. Cut the top off this morning, added the interior sides, puttied those up, then added my stowage boxes I had made a few days ago. Also detailed the additional frontal armor with some bolt head ala the "M-10"look. I will add that particular piece last once the rest of the model is painted as I want it to look like it was applied in the field. If you look closely you can see the edges have a torch cut appearance to them. I'll weather it accordingly. Going to be slowing down here soon as I have a lot of stuff in my life to deal with/take care and it will take me away from my model building for a bit. I also have a ton of reviews to do for the site as well. I'll keep posting when I can. More to follow. Thanks, "Q"

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Posted: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 - 11:00 AM UTC
Matt your Flakpanther type job is looking great, I must admit when i first saw it with the large box like structure at the back I could imagine it as a panther based APC but it's looking fantastic.

Sorry for the lack of updates, finally got around to uploading some new pictures of the build, nearing completion now, just some fine details to add and tweaking here and there really.








Side view:



Turret Escape hatch:


the gun and mantlet is just blu-tacked on at the moment, so it may look a little off in the pictures. All in all pleased with how its coming together.

Look forward to your comments and ideas.

Thanks

- Dan
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Posted: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 - 11:01 AM UTC
guys
latest update on my 6 wheeler cromwell thingy
it coud be a mk 2 challenger or a mk2 avenger i suppose
ive all the assembly done and did the mudguards along the lines of a cromell
the guns an su100 used as my fictional british 4 inch at gun
all comments welcome
great builds on this campaign
i like the flak panther and the disruptive cammo on the italian panzer
looks rough and very real
regards andrew









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Posted: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 - 11:08 AM UTC
dan
you beat me to it on your post
you tiger build looks menacing
i like the turret
the whole things coming on very well
the sloped armour fits well
regards andrew
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Posted: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 - 11:54 AM UTC
haha sorry andrew

thanks a lot its taken a fair amount of trial and error but I'm liking how its panning out, and your cromwell-thingy as you call it is looking amazing, a very worthy opposition for the tiger haha


out of curiosity, how did you build the turret? did you create some kind of plasticard structure then putty and sand? or a different way entirely?

- Dan
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Posted: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 - 12:46 PM UTC
dan
i built a plasticard shape and covered it with car body filler
then i sanded it smooth and dabed superglue on it to get the texture
regards andrew
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Posted: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 - 03:24 PM UTC
Dan/Andrew Good looking builds guys. Keep at it. I made some major headway with my FlakPanther today as I was out sick from work. Stomach was doing cheetah flips from about 5pm yesterday. I spent the better part of my day hammering away on my build. This is where she stands as of 8pm here in Colorado. Found a use for my two remaining Vampire night sights from the Tamiya kit. Also have the clear molded ones from the Dragon kit that I might try to nail onto the gunners sight so everybody can play in the dark. Found a set of older Modelkasten tracks that didn't give me too many fits getting them on. I did futz one of them as it is backwards. Lets just say the crew was in a really big hurry to get the new one on. Scratched the exhausts from brass tube and a set of 1/72 BMW bike wheels. Anyway, here it is. More work to do. Thanks, "Q"




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Posted: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 - 03:32 PM UTC

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I must admit when i first saw it with the large box like structure at the back I could imagine it as a panther based APC

Hmmmm, now you got me thinking about yet another build. I'm going to have to toy with that one awhile, but it sounds so cool. I have one of the older "F's" on my pile. Might just have to cut it up for this one... I'll let you know if I decide to move forward with that.... "Q"
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Posted: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 - 10:29 PM UTC
Great build Matthew! Where did you get that 30mm Flak, what brand is it? Thanks!

John
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Posted: Thursday, July 16, 2009 - 02:32 AM UTC
Thanks John. The flak kit is from Dragon. #6353. Cost is about $20 US and it comes with a lot of PE for the gun. I just haven't put it all on as yet. Planning on adding as much as I can today before I have to leave for work. Thanks again, "Q"
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Posted: Thursday, July 16, 2009 - 06:22 AM UTC
Good work there guys keep it up.
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Posted: Thursday, July 16, 2009 - 01:54 PM UTC
Neil, Dan, Andrew and Matt-
the good stuff is coming faster than it can be commented on. Really, really cool work!

Well done Guys!!
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Posted: Thursday, July 16, 2009 - 03:52 PM UTC

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Excellent.
Red4
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Posted: Thursday, July 16, 2009 - 04:35 PM UTC
Thanks for the kudos guys. I ran into a snag this afternoon. I soldered up the PE shields and just looking at the gun, the shields will foul on the sides when the gun is traversed. I'll just add some supports under the the stanchions to raise it enough to clear the sides. It will still retain the recessed area for the gun crew so it should still look the part when all is said and done. More to follow. Thanks, "Q"
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Posted: Saturday, July 18, 2009 - 05:59 AM UTC
All done! Why is it that you always notice something missed AFTER you take the pics. Forgot to paint the crewmans hair Still, all done within the 1 week deadline

Excasperated at the poor performance of their Italian allies in the Desert War, the Adolf Hitler decided to try and bolster them by passing on some of their own superior equipment. Unfortunately the only equipment that Rommel was prepared to part with was a handful of obsolete Panzer IIs. These did nothing to improve the performance of the Ariete Armoured Division, and only further strained Germany/Italy relations as in German eyes the Italians no longer had any excuses for not being as reliable as German units.







Is there a Campaigns folder where pics need to be put?
Red4
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Posted: Sunday, July 19, 2009 - 04:03 PM UTC
Looks good Neil. I like the camo.
I was able to spend a little time at my bench this afternoon and was able to get the AA gun complete. There is one small rod that I will have to wait to add until after everything is painted, and assembled. As you can see in the pics the gun needs to come up lust a tad bit for the shields to clear the top of the hull areas. Not a big deal though. I decided to use the plastic gunners shield as the PE piece had no mounting details on it, and it didn't fit well at all. More to follow. Thanks, "Q"



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Posted: Monday, July 20, 2009 - 11:22 AM UTC
Matt Q-
FlakPanther is looking awesome- bummer about the shield striking the upper hull plate!

I was thinking as I looked at it...... IF you cut the "outrigger" arms off the gun mount (basically leaving a circular deck beneath the gun) could you get a 360 degree rotation without hitting the shield?

It looks as if the axis of rotation is further forward than it might be because of the outrigger arm that is pointing rearward.

The gun by the way looks phenomenal! What a cool kit!

Andrew- yours needs a paint job! Otherwise it is perfect IMHO.- Awesome Job!

Steve
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Posted: Monday, July 20, 2009 - 11:51 AM UTC
Thanks for the kudos Steve. I was going to post some pics of how I corrected the problem and some other work I did to it, but Photobucket seems to be down at the moment as I can't upload anything The gun is complete, to include the other Vampire nightsight I had laying here. Looks really busy Once painted and the power cables etc. are added, it should really stand out. I scratch built the ammo trailer for it using the kit supplied one as a platform to go off of. I'm happy with it but will add some more little items to help spice it up as well. Once Photobucket comes back up, I'll post the pics. Thanks, "Q"
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Posted: Monday, July 20, 2009 - 12:45 PM UTC
Matt-
that is sincerely one cool "What-If". I am looking forward to getting back to work on mine. I hope you, Andrew, Dan, Matt K, Neil etc. keep checking this thread when your builds are done so I can pick your brains or my build.

Great Work!

Steve
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Posted: Monday, July 20, 2009 - 05:22 PM UTC
Steve,
Once again thanks for the kudos, glad you like the build. I tried Photobucket again this evening and it is still down. Not sure what the problem is. I will keep tabs on the thread and will definitely post pics of mine as I go and once it is completed. Now if only PB would come back up I could share some progress pics.
"Q"
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Posted: Monday, July 20, 2009 - 11:55 PM UTC
Matt, thats looking fantastic, can't wait to see it painted got any figures/ or a dio planned to go along with it?

Steve, I'll be keeping up with this thread for sure, got a few other "what-ifs" planned and started, a Jagdtiger II and something revolving around a Pershing, possibly even a pershing/early patton tank hybrid type as if the war had gone on till the early 50's, might be a stretch though.

- Dan
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Posted: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 - 02:13 AM UTC
Thanks Dan,
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got any figures/ or a dio planned to go along with it?

As a matter of fact I do have a dio planned for it. Still gathering items for it as I go. I was only able to get one pic to load thru photobucket. It keeps timing out for some reason, so this one will have to do. Sorry. Thanks again guys. "Q"
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Posted: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 - 03:43 AM UTC
Seems photobucket is working.....for now anyways. Here's a couple more pics. Thanks, "Q"