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White Eagle Campaign
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Posted: Friday, December 03, 2010 - 03:45 PM UTC

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Paul,
I got the lower half of my hull built so far, no paint or photos yet, will be working for 17:30 hrs on saturday into sunday so hopefully Sunday night I will get a chance to get more completed or at least a photo up
Work really cuts into modeling time, retirement is looking better and better



Good luck with work Sal,

I'm looking forward to your pics.

I've painted the cockpit details and applied a clearcoat - the next step will be a nice dark wash to weather the seat, floor and the sides of Mr. Urbanowicz's 'home'.

Cheers

Paul
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Posted: Saturday, December 04, 2010 - 12:12 AM UTC
Easiest Model build ever !

Pegasus Snap Build kits are sooo much fun.

Ok .. I've glued the bits together - the landing gear is "snapped on" so I can remove it for painting. Cockpit done, next step is primer all over after filling a few small gaps

Here is where I'm at :





I'm waiting on some RAF Dark Earth Acrylic in the mail. I have Tamiya "Sky" to do the underside - after primer.

Cheers

Paul
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Posted: Saturday, December 04, 2010 - 06:39 AM UTC
Woa, you talk to me about fast!

First tip: be shure to mask the ataching knobs of all landing gear parts with maskol or similar BEFORE you comit to paint. Or just stick a blob of blue tack to them. Also mask the attaching points in the wheel wells. Saves a LOT of time when it comes to sticking all the parts together after painting and best of all: enshures the gear sits smack straght. Most models' gear have very nice connection points for gear even if the rest is rubbish. Makes avoiding splaied legs easy!

Next tip: Before removing the masks off the canopy after painting trace them with the back of a scalpel blade. Avoids ripping off tiny chips with the masks and makes for a sharp canopy frame.

Third: Before priming trace the seams really lightly with some acrylic black with your airbrush. Easier ro correct gaps than sanding the primer and reapplying it afterwards.

Hope you can use some of this. I learned this stuff the hard way!
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Posted: Saturday, December 04, 2010 - 07:03 AM UTC
Paul, you are a speed demon is that Hurricane 1/72 and if so does Pegasus offer 1/48? I have not seen any Pegasus kits here yet.


Bob
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Posted: Saturday, December 04, 2010 - 09:47 AM UTC

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Paul, you are a speed demon is that Hurricane 1/72 and if so does Pegasus offer 1/48? I have not seen any Pegasus kits here yet.


Bob



Hey Bob, it's 1/48, and only $9 !!

Thanks for the tips Leo, I'll use all of them. Putty tonight on those seams that need filling.
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Posted: Saturday, December 04, 2010 - 02:16 PM UTC
Hope it's not too late, Paul, here something for filling:

when building planes seams need to be ABSOLUTELY clean or you will always look at some gaps in your seams and not at the beautiful paintjob you managed. So after trying almost everything, here my method:

I almost exclusively use superglue and kicker for a filler, never one without the other. That's why: apply glue (not too thickly, maybe one millimeter max), spray kicker, blow lightly 'till almost all of the kicker around the applied glue has evaporated and sand IMEDIATELY. I mean imeditaly like already having your sanding paper ready in your favoured notch of your forefinger.
Sands absolutely clean and ROCKHARD. And best of all: mindnumbingly fast. For your plane as it looks you will need no more than a quarter of an hour using this method. Check all the seams with some acrylic black lightly sprayed and redo all the flaws. That means half an hour max from gaps to primer, And the seams are perfectly engraveable.
I use ZapAGap and FoamSave kicker but that's my choice only.

For hard to reach areas I sometimes use Tamiya Putty basic type smeared flush with Acetone. Don't use Nail polisgh remover they sometimes contain oils that can disturb paint application. This I'd try on the underside of your elevators.

Have fun see you tomorrow!!
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Posted: Saturday, December 04, 2010 - 11:54 PM UTC
Paul, something that I thought of this morning.

I told you yesterday to lightly blow at the cyano-bead after applying kicker...

Well maybe the first few tries just sand imediately after kicker-application using dry sanding paper (adding water for sanding increases hardening speed!!).
Just rubbing the seam down while there's still some kicker floating on the surface works best.

That way you maybe remove a little too much of the cyano -because it's still real soft in the beginning, kinda like gel - but sanding is much easier.

Only later when you got acccustomed to your cyano-kicker characteristics you could try to harden a little more of your cyano applied to the seam. But be shure not let it harden too much because this really is a nuisance to sand.

Any of this make sense? If not just forget what i said. No need to spoil the fun by desperately tryin new stuff
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Posted: Sunday, December 05, 2010 - 01:50 AM UTC

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Well, 'till I get my plane sorted out, I'll join with a Humber SC of Bronco in markings for polish 10th Dragoons.

What means 'Pedziwiatr'?


Hi Leo

If you want to build Pędziwiatr, maybe this helps you:

From book "Broń pancerna w PSZ 1939-1945"


From book "1 Dywizja Pancerna 1944-1947 vol. II"

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Posted: Sunday, December 05, 2010 - 03:18 PM UTC
Hi Guys,
As promised a progress photo of my OOB Build
a href="http://s836.photobucket.com/albums/zz283/ltb073/Polish/?action=view&current=P1030888.jpg" target="_blank">Photobucket
Got a little more of it built today, hopefully more tomorrow
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Posted: Sunday, December 05, 2010 - 03:33 PM UTC
Sal, nice job and fast also. I love that tank.

I just decided to scratch a turret for my 7TP

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Bob
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Posted: Sunday, December 05, 2010 - 04:51 PM UTC

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Oh, to everyone:

The Tamiya Mig 15 in 1:48scale: is it buildable in polish markings without major conversion? It's called Lim-something in Poland, right? I'm sorry, don't know a lot about what I got me into, I must confess...

And where do i get markings for it if buildable?

Thanks for helping.

And thanks to Paul for all his encouragement and coments, here and back at ShermCamp. You are a great Camapaign leader!

Thanks to Jeremy for your artwork!! You got me into this, as your logos got my atention in Headquarters!!

See you soon!



Much thanks Leo, it was a real challenge creating suitable pieces for this campaign and I'm glad to see that it is drawing positive attention towards Paul's group build

I can't believe this campaign is already starting. This feels like it's going to be great project and we're already seeing a lot of interesting diversity here, and I'm starting to fear that my entry is going to be rather uninteresting when compared to the other unique vehicles being proposed

Paul: Are you still going to focus on multiple builds? I can't wait to see the tankettes you've been talking about
I may be the only heavy armour entry in here with the ISU-152, but I'm really looking forward to it!
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Posted: Sunday, December 05, 2010 - 05:21 PM UTC

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Oh, to everyone:

The Tamiya Mig 15 in 1:48scale: is it buildable in polish markings without major conversion? It's called Lim-something in Poland, right? I'm sorry, don't know a lot about what I got me into, I must confess...

And where do i get markings for it if buildable?

Thanks for helping.

And thanks to Paul for all his encouragement and coments, here and back at ShermCamp. You are a great Camapaign leader!

Thanks to Jeremy for your artwork!! You got me into this, as your logos got my atention in Headquarters!!

See you soon!



Much thanks Leo, it was a real challenge creating suitable pieces for this campaign and I'm glad to see that it is drawing positive attention towards Paul's group build

I can't believe this campaign is already starting. This feels like it's going to be great project and we're already seeing a lot of interesting diversity here, and I'm starting to fear that my entry is going to be rather uninteresting when compared to the other unique vehicles being proposed

Paul: Are you still going to focus on multiple builds? I can't wait to see the tankettes you've been talking about
I may be the only heavy armour entry in here with the ISU-152, but I'm really looking forward to it!



Hey Jeremy,

although not a requirement for a ribbon, multiple builds are encouraged (we have a long time !!).

I'm reading "For Your Freedom and Ours: The Kosciuszko Squadron - Forgotten Heroes of World War II "

"Kosciuszko" Squadron 303

It's a great book / story so I'm going to do the Hurricane 1 from the Battle of Britain.

Next book up is this one on the 1920 Polish - Bolshevik War :

White Eagle, Red Star: The Polish-Soviet War 1919-1920 and The Miracle on the Vistula

Another great story, so I'd like to do something from that period - probably an FT17 ??

Perhaps even a Fokker F VII in 1/48 (Eduard with Polish Markings from Techmod which I have).

Yes there are lots of options for this Campaign...

Cheers

Paul
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Posted: Sunday, December 05, 2010 - 05:22 PM UTC

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Hi Guys,
As promised a progress photo of my OOB Build
a href="http://s836.photobucket.com/albums/zz283/ltb073/Polish/?action=view¤t=P1030888.jpg" target="_blank">Photobucket
Got a little more of it built today, hopefully more tomorrow



Great work Sal.

You've gotta love the Tamiya kits - I do
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Posted: Sunday, December 05, 2010 - 05:23 PM UTC

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Sal, nice job and fast also. I love that tank.

I just decided to scratch a turret for my 7TP

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Bob



That's a fair effort Bob !

I can't scratch my nose properly, let alone scratch a turret
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Posted: Sunday, December 05, 2010 - 06:10 PM UTC
That is funny Paul ever thought of becoming a stand up comic scractch building is in all of us, JUST DO IT! At the moment I am trying to roll a thin sheet of plastic over the shape posted earlier alot more trouble than I had in mind. But I will just let the glue have time to dry ( a fault of mine) this time.

Bob
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Posted: Sunday, December 05, 2010 - 07:49 PM UTC

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That is funny Paul ever thought of becoming a stand up comic scractch building is in all of us, JUST DO IT! At the moment I am trying to roll a thin sheet of plastic over the shape posted earlier alot more trouble than I had in mind. But I will just let the glue have time to dry ( a fault of mine) this time.

Bob



You've got to love having a joke Bob ! I always do ...

Leo thanks for you tips, I'm going to give the superglue technique a go on the Hasagawa 1/48 JU87D I'm going to build.

Do you use a thin applicator for the glue, and what thickness of glue do you prefer ? So the kicker is available here - I'll purchase some today and practice a bit on an old kit.

I've tried something a little different this time, Tamiya standard putty thinned in lacquer thinner, applied to the seams and then the excess wiped away with a paper towel moistened in the thinner.

Here's the result,



So far so good I think, I'll need to test how good the result is with the primer application (after a bit of clean up and some very minor wet and dry sanding ),,, or perhaps some black Acrylic Paint Do you use gloss ?

Any tips from here ?

Next step Primer whilst I wait for the RAF Dark Earth to arrive

Cheers

Paul
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Posted: Sunday, December 05, 2010 - 08:01 PM UTC
Paul, laughter is a great remedy for what ails and I do love to laugh. the Hurricane is looking good.

Bob
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Posted: Sunday, December 05, 2010 - 08:14 PM UTC

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Paul, laughter is a great remedy for what ails and I do love to laugh. the Hurricane is looking good.

Bob



Thanks Bob !

This Campaign will be a beauty !!

Cheers

Paul
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Posted: Monday, December 06, 2010 - 04:34 AM UTC
Tomek: thanks so much for the pics. The foto is just gorgeous! Is it me or does that humber wear diagonal and cross country pattern tires? That might look awesome on mine.

Paul:
Well, I use a kind of apllicator that's not easily obtailable. I use a micro file used for root canal treatment. There are some online hobby stores that sell them. But maybe ask your friendly neighbourhood dentist, he'll give you some. They're perfect for this and come in different sizes.

One other method is dipping the tip of a length of 0.4 wire in superglue and lying it on tissue paper. When the glue is hardened you gently pull the wire free and whoalah: extrafine micro brush. Adaptable to your wishes and if gotten too big just snip it off and start over.

As for glue thickness... well, I exclusively use this glue:
http://www.supergluecorp.com/zap/zap-glues/zap-gap
Got a very clever cap (you can use to the last drop) and sticks like a sonofa. AND: reacts lovely to their own brand kicker. The thickness is medium I think, just right and better than anything else I tried.
Just be shure not to apply too thick a layer. Because when the reaction starts after applying kicker the glue gets hot inside and you get bubbles in/on the seam. Very nasty on a modern jet's spine!

Which brings me to your method of cleaning up seams: I do this, too, but only an WW2 planes and there at wing roots and elevators, basicaly curved surfaces. Because any puty other than cyano WILL shrink and even after a few days (when all painting is done and you fantasize about calling it a day) you will find nasty dents where the seams used to be, preferably on an F-15's spine or intake root. Go ahead, ask me how I know this...
So, I'd do it as you did only not on the spine.

For checking seams I use a very dark matte grey, thinnned down to a consistence which would be perfect for shading. That i really finely mist over the area to check. After that just hold it against the light at an angle. Best method to see gaps and putty blobs.

Hope this helps. That's only my preference, mind you. And the product of countles battles with my former pet hate: puttying and sanding
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Posted: Monday, December 06, 2010 - 06:47 AM UTC

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Tomek: thanks so much for the pics. The foto is just gorgeous! Is it me or does that humber wear diagonal and cross country pattern tires? That might look awesome on mine.

Paul:
Well, I use a kind of apllicator that's not easily obtailable. I use a micro file used for root canal treatment. There are some online hobby stores that sell them. But maybe ask your friendly neighbourhood dentist, he'll give you some. They're perfect for this and come in different sizes.

One other method is dipping the tip of a length of 0.4 wire in superglue and lying it on tissue paper. When the glue is hardened you gently pull the wire free and whoalah: extrafine micro brush. Adaptable to your wishes and if gotten too big just snip it off and start over.

As for glue thickness... well, I exclusively use this glue:
http://www.supergluecorp.com/zap/zap-glues/zap-gap
Got a very clever cap (you can use to the last drop) and sticks like a sonofa. AND: reacts lovely to their own brand kicker. The thickness is medium I think, just right and better than anything else I tried.
Just be shure not to apply too thick a layer. Because when the reaction starts after applying kicker the glue gets hot inside and you get bubbles in/on the seam. Very nasty on a modern jet's spine!

Which brings me to your method of cleaning up seams: I do this, too, but only an WW2 planes and there at wing roots and elevators, basicaly curved surfaces. Because any puty other than cyano WILL shrink and even after a few days (when all painting is done and you fantasize about calling it a day) you will find nasty dents where the seams used to be, preferably on an F-15's spine or intake root. Go ahead, ask me how I know this...
So, I'd do it as you did only not on the spine.

For checking seams I use a very dark matte grey, thinnned down to a consistence which would be perfect for shading. That i really finely mist over the area to check. After that just hold it against the light at an angle. Best method to see gaps and putty blobs.

Hope this helps. That's only my preference, mind you. And the product of countles battles with my former pet hate: puttying and sanding



Great info Leo thanks very much !

I'll use Nato Black on those seams tonight - hopefully they've come up Ok

Cheers

Paul
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Posted: Monday, December 06, 2010 - 06:52 AM UTC

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Is it me or does that humber wear diagonal and cross country pattern tires?


Yes Leo. There are 2 types of tires visible on this photo, just like in Bronco kit.
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Posted: Monday, December 06, 2010 - 07:45 AM UTC
Thanks so much Tomek!

Oh, Paul - and pleaseplease don't feel bugged - maybe try diluting your nato black with simple Isopropylalcohol just this once. Makes it a little ''dustier'' in appearance and thus a better paint to hunt for flaws.
Sorry, I'll let you go for today

Maybe some progresspix later on.
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Posted: Monday, December 06, 2010 - 05:27 PM UTC

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Thanks so much Tomek!

Oh, Paul - and pleaseplease don't feel bugged - maybe try diluting your nato black with simple Isopropylalcohol just this once. Makes it a little ''dustier'' in appearance and thus a better paint to hunt for flaws.
Sorry, I'll let you go for today

Maybe some progresspix later on.



Thanks Leo,

I've applied the grey / black and I need a couple of touch ups on some seams.

I'll prime tomorrow I think - then apply the "Sky "to the underside

Paul

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Posted: Monday, December 06, 2010 - 09:04 PM UTC
I am starting to wish that I bought another kit, trying to scratch this turret has taken over my life. here is what I have done so far.
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the turret with two sheets of plastic wrapped around the skeleton and the mount on the turret for the cannon

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at last some sanding and putty to fill in the gaps left by the joints of the plasic sheet.
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Sorry for the amount of photos but this has been a long drawn out affair.

Bob
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Posted: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 - 06:17 AM UTC
Thanks for posting Bob !

Nice work