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'Under a Different Flag' Campaign (Captured)
steph2102
Isere, France
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Posted: Tuesday, November 01, 2011 - 09:08 AM UTC
panzerbob01
Louisiana, United States
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Posted: Tuesday, November 01, 2011 - 05:32 PM UTC
)Remco;
Hi! On the road-wheelsh colour.s..
I use Floquil RR Colors enamel "weathered black" - a sort of dark gray. It comes out lookinig a bit more like the real rubber tires, and- also takes up the weathering and dirt perhaps a bit more subtrly than does "black black".
Note that I have not done any sort of weathering nor washes yet... it will be gettingi a little van dycke brown oirl wash to slightly mellow and blend the camo, plus some pin washing around detail and edge wear and chipping (dark brown or hull red) plus dark steel or graphite, and some dusting with chalks to wrap things.
Cheers!
Bob
Hi! On the road-wheelsh colour.s..
I use Floquil RR Colors enamel "weathered black" - a sort of dark gray. It comes out lookinig a bit more like the real rubber tires, and- also takes up the weathering and dirt perhaps a bit more subtrly than does "black black".
Note that I have not done any sort of weathering nor washes yet... it will be gettingi a little van dycke brown oirl wash to slightly mellow and blend the camo, plus some pin washing around detail and edge wear and chipping (dark brown or hull red) plus dark steel or graphite, and some dusting with chalks to wrap things.
Cheers!
Bob
JonDicks
Queensland, Australia
Joined: October 13, 2009
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Posted: Saturday, November 05, 2011 - 09:17 PM UTC
Well it has been some time since my last post, but I have managed to sneak in some bench time over the last few weeks.
The painting process used so far is:
1. Black primer coat - a standard rattlecan form hardware store
2. Tamiya rattlecan Light Sand to almost cover the primer
3. Light coats of Tamiya rattlecan Wooden Deck Tan on the upper surfaces as a sort of modulation. This gives me the base finsih to starts working on, then:
4. Decals on with help from Microsol. Many applications of Microsol were used and I also used a fine cloth to carefully push down on the decals to get then tightly sitting over the rivets and in the recesses.
5. Painted tracks and tools with a base coat in a relevant colour.
6. Painted the tracks with the AK Enamel track wash in light coat
7. Applied Sin Industries Filter Grey for Dark Yellow
8. Then a a thinned down coat of AK Filter For Nato Vehicles (this is a light brown colour and you have to thin it at least 50% if its going over sand colours - actually I find you have to thin ALL the AK filter products). Once applied I then used a larger fresh brush damped with thinner to selectively remove the filter on the flat areas, to create a random effect.
9. Then it was a general wash of Mig Neutral Wash again removed and streaked on the flat areas with another thinners damped brush.
10. Finally (so far) a pin wash on rivet detail etc with the same Mig Neutral wash.
Still to come is the final coats to tools and weapons, some chipping (which I want to keep minor), and various pigment applications for dust and grime.
The painting process used so far is:
1. Black primer coat - a standard rattlecan form hardware store
2. Tamiya rattlecan Light Sand to almost cover the primer
3. Light coats of Tamiya rattlecan Wooden Deck Tan on the upper surfaces as a sort of modulation. This gives me the base finsih to starts working on, then:
4. Decals on with help from Microsol. Many applications of Microsol were used and I also used a fine cloth to carefully push down on the decals to get then tightly sitting over the rivets and in the recesses.
5. Painted tracks and tools with a base coat in a relevant colour.
6. Painted the tracks with the AK Enamel track wash in light coat
7. Applied Sin Industries Filter Grey for Dark Yellow
8. Then a a thinned down coat of AK Filter For Nato Vehicles (this is a light brown colour and you have to thin it at least 50% if its going over sand colours - actually I find you have to thin ALL the AK filter products). Once applied I then used a larger fresh brush damped with thinner to selectively remove the filter on the flat areas, to create a random effect.
9. Then it was a general wash of Mig Neutral Wash again removed and streaked on the flat areas with another thinners damped brush.
10. Finally (so far) a pin wash on rivet detail etc with the same Mig Neutral wash.
Still to come is the final coats to tools and weapons, some chipping (which I want to keep minor), and various pigment applications for dust and grime.
panzerbob01
Louisiana, United States
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Posted: Tuesday, November 08, 2011 - 03:13 AM UTC
JonD.;
NICE! That's a fairly famous or at least well-known "seconded" Italian tank... (Though I wondered from the first time I saw pics of these whether the seconding crews actually liked these contraptions!)
I like it! Came out sharp and the 'roos look quite fine! Back about 35 years ago I built this same kit and wanted badly to paint the 'roos on - not having much faith in the available decals. In the end, I did her up in an Italian scheme and retired it to the shelf!
Bob
NICE! That's a fairly famous or at least well-known "seconded" Italian tank... (Though I wondered from the first time I saw pics of these whether the seconding crews actually liked these contraptions!)
I like it! Came out sharp and the 'roos look quite fine! Back about 35 years ago I built this same kit and wanted badly to paint the 'roos on - not having much faith in the available decals. In the end, I did her up in an Italian scheme and retired it to the shelf!
Bob
panzerbob01
Louisiana, United States
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Posted: Tuesday, November 08, 2011 - 03:28 AM UTC
All:
The formerly-Italian Semovente L6/40 da 47/32 is DONE! Wow! First tank I've managed to complete for a campaign!
I got home from a week chasing TX tortoises around in Brownsville TX (yeah... it's a great job... but I can really skip the ticks and the myriad spines and jabs and cuts one collects from the coastal scrub vegetation ) at 2300 Friday last, did a final bit with detailing a couple things, mounted my gas cans, did a hull wash in van dycke brown in turps, sprayed a flat-earth wash around the lower quarters, and finished with a bit of powdered General's pastel chalks for a dust coat. It went to the Lafayette LA show at 0730 Saturday! Hoo-yah!
So, folks, here it is - a few snaps of the now-done Italeri semovente in German anti-partisan service in early 1944. The kit was cool, if quite a bear
Comments are of course welcome!
Enjoy!
Bob
The formerly-Italian Semovente L6/40 da 47/32 is DONE! Wow! First tank I've managed to complete for a campaign!
I got home from a week chasing TX tortoises around in Brownsville TX (yeah... it's a great job... but I can really skip the ticks and the myriad spines and jabs and cuts one collects from the coastal scrub vegetation ) at 2300 Friday last, did a final bit with detailing a couple things, mounted my gas cans, did a hull wash in van dycke brown in turps, sprayed a flat-earth wash around the lower quarters, and finished with a bit of powdered General's pastel chalks for a dust coat. It went to the Lafayette LA show at 0730 Saturday! Hoo-yah!
So, folks, here it is - a few snaps of the now-done Italeri semovente in German anti-partisan service in early 1944. The kit was cool, if quite a bear
Comments are of course welcome!
Enjoy!
Bob
JonDicks
Queensland, Australia
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Posted: Thursday, November 10, 2011 - 08:14 PM UTC
Thanks for the kind words Bob.
Well a little bit of streaking, chipping and pigmenting later I will call this build complete.
Well a little bit of streaking, chipping and pigmenting later I will call this build complete.
Klinker
Tasmania, Australia
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Posted: Thursday, November 10, 2011 - 08:31 PM UTC
Bob and Jon..... Excellent, excellent work I really like the way these 2 Italian machines have turned out, I think I may have said I become quite interested in getting both these kits.
Thank you very much for taking part, I do hope you'll keep stopping-by now and then to have a look at what the rest of us are building.
Regards Duncan.
Thank you very much for taking part, I do hope you'll keep stopping-by now and then to have a look at what the rest of us are building.
Regards Duncan.
JonDicks
Queensland, Australia
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Posted: Friday, November 11, 2011 - 12:05 AM UTC
Thanks Duncan, I will keep coming back to see the others finished.
panzerbob01
Louisiana, United States
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Posted: Friday, November 11, 2011 - 08:59 AM UTC
JonD.;
Hi!
Your final washes have made the old girl sing! The detailing makes her look properly used and hi-lights the rivets and plate-construction superbly. They also do sort of focus my eyes on a possibly over-looked detail which could help pop your panzer: I would expect that the sprockets and idlers - both steel things - would have bare metal on teeth and track-bearing surfaces? Just an observation!
Bob
Hi!
Your final washes have made the old girl sing! The detailing makes her look properly used and hi-lights the rivets and plate-construction superbly. They also do sort of focus my eyes on a possibly over-looked detail which could help pop your panzer: I would expect that the sprockets and idlers - both steel things - would have bare metal on teeth and track-bearing surfaces? Just an observation!
Bob
JonDicks
Queensland, Australia
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Posted: Friday, November 11, 2011 - 02:07 PM UTC
Thanks Bob
You are absolutely right! I did totally overlook that - another case of staring at something so long you can't see the obvious!
I will do a bit more drybrushing or maybe use a pencil
Jon
You are absolutely right! I did totally overlook that - another case of staring at something so long you can't see the obvious!
I will do a bit more drybrushing or maybe use a pencil
Jon
Klinker
Tasmania, Australia
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Posted: Friday, November 11, 2011 - 11:44 PM UTC
Made a start on the Panther, a big thanks to Mike Roof for providing the correct parts listings to use to build an early Panther G .
The suspension is workable on the smart kit so I may or may-not get to use that, but it was fun to build, next is mount the RB barrel and get some Zimmerit applied, still quite a bit to do to the hull.
The suspension is workable on the smart kit so I may or may-not get to use that, but it was fun to build, next is mount the RB barrel and get some Zimmerit applied, still quite a bit to do to the hull.
4-BO-Green
Noord-Holland, Netherlands
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Posted: Sunday, November 13, 2011 - 05:06 AM UTC
Hey guys,
I have bin busy painting the base color dunkel gelb with the AK dunkel gelb airbrush set.
The missing notek blackout light and the blinds for the driver periscopes are also painted but not added. These items were to small for adding on the photo's. The cable and shovel are painted in black brown with a drop of gray green. The wood on the shovel is painted with panzer aces color old wood.
@ Jon Dicks- Thats a really cool tank! The kangaroo makes the tank very attractive. I like it
@ Klinker- Looks promising Duncan! What zimmerit are you using? I make the zimmerit self with some artist gel.
Regards,
Remco
I have bin busy painting the base color dunkel gelb with the AK dunkel gelb airbrush set.
The missing notek blackout light and the blinds for the driver periscopes are also painted but not added. These items were to small for adding on the photo's. The cable and shovel are painted in black brown with a drop of gray green. The wood on the shovel is painted with panzer aces color old wood.
@ Jon Dicks- Thats a really cool tank! The kangaroo makes the tank very attractive. I like it
@ Klinker- Looks promising Duncan! What zimmerit are you using? I make the zimmerit self with some artist gel.
Regards,
Remco
Klinker
Tasmania, Australia
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Posted: Sunday, November 13, 2011 - 06:33 PM UTC
Remco.... I doing the Zimmerit myself too, I will be using 'Daz' modeling clay? I read an article years ago in a Modeling magazine and I tried it out on a old part of a kit works well, plus you can actually chip into it to make it look warn/damaged.
Your T34 is looking great the AK Interactive paint looks good I have some winter streaking grime etc... not used them yet, plus I been tempted by some of their other sets.... how did you find your AK paint went on?
Your T34 is looking great the AK Interactive paint looks good I have some winter streaking grime etc... not used them yet, plus I been tempted by some of their other sets.... how did you find your AK paint went on?
JonDicks
Queensland, Australia
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Posted: Sunday, November 13, 2011 - 06:45 PM UTC
Hi Duncan,
The streaking on the Italian kangaroo above was done with AK Streaking Grime. It is great to work with for both harsh and subtle effects. I use it straight on top ofthe acrylic and tamiya rattlecan base coats. You just keep layering it until you build up the effect you want.
Jon
The streaking on the Italian kangaroo above was done with AK Streaking Grime. It is great to work with for both harsh and subtle effects. I use it straight on top ofthe acrylic and tamiya rattlecan base coats. You just keep layering it until you build up the effect you want.
Jon
Klinker
Tasmania, Australia
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Posted: Sunday, November 13, 2011 - 06:59 PM UTC
Thanks for that Jon I be getting some more off ebay then on that recommendation.
4-BO-Green
Noord-Holland, Netherlands
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Posted: Sunday, November 13, 2011 - 07:43 PM UTC
@ duncan- the AK paintset is made by Vallejo. Thats good paint.
First if you put the color paint on you think the colors are to much, to light, to bright... But the satin varnish wil mysticaly tone the colors down and make the colors more come together. Very cool stuff...
First if you put the color paint on you think the colors are to much, to light, to bright... But the satin varnish wil mysticaly tone the colors down and make the colors more come together. Very cool stuff...
VLADPANZER
Lebanon
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Posted: Monday, November 14, 2011 - 12:56 AM UTC
Hello,
Some really cool builds, I specially like the captured Italian tanks!
Well it took me a while but I finally got my hands on one of the sets I wanted to build for this campaign, a captured M-10 tank destroyer. The kit is from AFV club, it’s a great set that comes with a metallic barrel and some great details. I started work on it last night, the picture I took of the kit was taken the night before. During the ‘Battle of the Bulge’ two captured M-10 were to take part in the offensive, part of a ruse to confuse the allies and take back Antwerp. Don’t mind building another set later on!
Regards,
Some really cool builds, I specially like the captured Italian tanks!
Well it took me a while but I finally got my hands on one of the sets I wanted to build for this campaign, a captured M-10 tank destroyer. The kit is from AFV club, it’s a great set that comes with a metallic barrel and some great details. I started work on it last night, the picture I took of the kit was taken the night before. During the ‘Battle of the Bulge’ two captured M-10 were to take part in the offensive, part of a ruse to confuse the allies and take back Antwerp. Don’t mind building another set later on!
Regards,
steph2102
Isere, France
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Posted: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 - 10:13 AM UTC
hello
here is my progress on my T60
here is my progress on my T60
Posted: Wednesday, November 16, 2011 - 04:15 PM UTC
Here is my entry into the campaign with my start up photos
Tom
Tom
panzerbob01
Louisiana, United States
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Posted: Thursday, November 17, 2011 - 02:56 AM UTC
Tom:
SWEET! I built this one 95% last fall-winter (final weathering and insignia and hanging the cans and crap on it still to do ) - it's a cool kit of what I think is an A-1 subject, and really nicely done, IMHO. And it's hard to beat for a captured tank in German service fan. Had I known this campaign was coming up, I would have done this one for this, too! You have a winner, there, and ENJOY!
Of course, when you find that this thing had 16 - 20+ gasoline cans hung around it... all I could think of when I saw this (and in historic pictures) was "Wow! What a pyromaniac's dream! A rolling Ronson ready to light!" That, and it took a way braver man than me to crew it, given all the opportunity available for a rolling pig-roast to happen!
I found the kit went together mostly very well - but careful study of the parts, fit and the instructions BEFORE gluing is a must, as I found out after the fact with the suspension outer-cover plates ... . And that really awesome turret with its tiny and rather detailed antenna mount and the spaced armor... I put the armor on first, and then tried to fit that complex antenna mount into the small space it lurks in on the rear of the actual turret... how I wish I had put that on before the spaced armor...! (and were I doing this one again, I think I would paint the turret and armor surfaces before assembling them... must be the spaced-armor effect keeping the enemies projectiles at a distance .)
You are in line for some fine modelling, and I do look forward to seeing this done!
Bob
SWEET! I built this one 95% last fall-winter (final weathering and insignia and hanging the cans and crap on it still to do ) - it's a cool kit of what I think is an A-1 subject, and really nicely done, IMHO. And it's hard to beat for a captured tank in German service fan. Had I known this campaign was coming up, I would have done this one for this, too! You have a winner, there, and ENJOY!
Of course, when you find that this thing had 16 - 20+ gasoline cans hung around it... all I could think of when I saw this (and in historic pictures) was "Wow! What a pyromaniac's dream! A rolling Ronson ready to light!" That, and it took a way braver man than me to crew it, given all the opportunity available for a rolling pig-roast to happen!
I found the kit went together mostly very well - but careful study of the parts, fit and the instructions BEFORE gluing is a must, as I found out after the fact with the suspension outer-cover plates ... . And that really awesome turret with its tiny and rather detailed antenna mount and the spaced armor... I put the armor on first, and then tried to fit that complex antenna mount into the small space it lurks in on the rear of the actual turret... how I wish I had put that on before the spaced armor...! (and were I doing this one again, I think I would paint the turret and armor surfaces before assembling them... must be the spaced-armor effect keeping the enemies projectiles at a distance .)
You are in line for some fine modelling, and I do look forward to seeing this done!
Bob
Posted: Thursday, November 17, 2011 - 05:36 AM UTC
Bob,
Thank you for the headups on some of the challenges you ran into.
I will make sure that your suggestions are followed.
Regards,
Tom
Thank you for the headups on some of the challenges you ran into.
I will make sure that your suggestions are followed.
Regards,
Tom
steph2102
Isere, France
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Posted: Saturday, November 19, 2011 - 10:12 PM UTC
hello,
here is my finished model. your comments and criticisms are welcome. thanks, stephane
here is my finished model. your comments and criticisms are welcome. thanks, stephane
JonDicks
Queensland, Australia
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Posted: Thursday, November 24, 2011 - 10:20 PM UTC
How do I find the Campaign Gallery?
Klinker
Tasmania, Australia
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Posted: Thursday, November 24, 2011 - 11:21 PM UTC
Quoted Text
How do I find the Campaign Gallery?
Here you go Jon.
Under A Different Flag Campaign Gallery
Klinker
Tasmania, Australia
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Posted: Thursday, November 24, 2011 - 11:30 PM UTC
steph....Your T-60 looks good the whitewash has come-out well, looking warn away, ( did you use the Hair spray technique? ) but I think it needs a bit of dirt and stains here and there.The drive sprockets and other high wear areas would be worn metal, sorry to be a bit critical and no offense meant but it looks a little flat! don't worry I sure my lack of painting (recently) will bring similar constructive criticism when I get to this stage.
Regards Duncan.
Regards Duncan.