I found it on Inet, scale of work is huge!
http://2photo.ru/2008/01/10/hell_bratja_dzhejjk_i_dino_chepmeny.html
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Aleksey_Gilevskiy
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Posted: Sunday, May 25, 2008 - 06:32 AM UTC
HeavyArty
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Posted: Sunday, May 25, 2008 - 06:47 AM UTC
Looks pretty gruesome and rediculouse to me. As with most huge dios, it has no focal point, no real story to tell, and is a collection of other scenes thrown together. The vehicles and figures don't look to be painted well either. Sorry, but It doesn't look that good to me. Just because it is big doesn't make it good.
jargonking
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Posted: Sunday, May 25, 2008 - 06:50 AM UTC
This is actually a piece of 'art' entitled 'HELL' by British conceptualist 'artists' Jake and Dinos Chapman, that was displayed in a series of nine glass cases arranged into the shape of a swastika.
As a piece of art it is pretty poor especially as the duo simply dreamt up the concept and had most of the construction carried out by assistants.
As a diorama it is crude, poorly executed and, in a lot of areas, grossly offensive.
No doubt the Saatchi gallery paid an obscene amount of money for it.
It's the kind of sad stunt that gives modelmaking a bad name.
As a piece of art it is pretty poor especially as the duo simply dreamt up the concept and had most of the construction carried out by assistants.
As a diorama it is crude, poorly executed and, in a lot of areas, grossly offensive.
No doubt the Saatchi gallery paid an obscene amount of money for it.
It's the kind of sad stunt that gives modelmaking a bad name.
Hederstierna
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Posted: Sunday, May 25, 2008 - 06:52 AM UTC
EHH! What was that? "Dawn of the living dead" goes nazi?
Someone please explaine.
Jacob
Someone please explaine.
Jacob
troubble27
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Posted: Sunday, May 25, 2008 - 06:54 AM UTC
YEah, Im with Gino on this one. Its a shame to spend so much time and money on something so ridiculous. I see the modeller added a McDonalds there. They must have put some good drugs in those Whoppers. 
jargonking
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Posted: Sunday, May 25, 2008 - 06:58 AM UTC
Actually it's not all bad news as I've just discovered the piece was destroyed in a warehouse fire in 2004 along with another 100 or so pieces of 'art'... 
Aleksey_Gilevskiy
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Posted: Sunday, May 25, 2008 - 07:30 AM UTC
Quoted Text
Looks pretty gruesome and rediculouse to me. As with most huge dios, it has no focal point, no real story to tell, and is a collection of other scenes thrown together. The vehicles and figures don't look to be painted well either. Sorry, but It doesn't look that good to me. Just because it is big doesn't make it good.
We say Field arty - the God of War!!!!
SIRNEIL
Joined: July 30, 2007
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Posted: Sunday, May 25, 2008 - 07:42 AM UTC
very dark and disturbing........
probably best if this was removed from this forum!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
probably best if this was removed from this forum!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Craigestrie
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Posted: Sunday, May 25, 2008 - 07:44 AM UTC
I dont mean to cross anyone here, but what i think most of you have fail to realise that this piece is more of a representation of the scale and brutality of the suffering that happend during the war. PLEASE DONT HATE ME FOR THIS 
CMOT
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Posted: Sunday, May 25, 2008 - 07:58 AM UTC
I agree it is very dark piece of art! If it can be called art that is.
jargonking
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Posted: Sunday, May 25, 2008 - 08:09 AM UTC
Quoted Text
I dont mean to cross anyone here, but what i think most of you have fail to realise that this piece is more of a representation of the scale and brutality of the suffering that happend during the war. PLEASE DONT HATE ME FOR THIS
Sorry to burst your bubble there Craig but this kind of 'art' has NOTHING to do with conveying the scale and brutality of war and EVERYTHING to do with increasing the notoriety and fortunes of its creators.
If you want to see real art that deals with the horrors of war then go and visit the War Museum in London and see paintings by people who have actually experienced it.
Don't fall prey to the cynical, pretentious and ultimately worthless crap being touted by these morons and the whole Britart scene.
milvehfan
Joined: June 26, 2007
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Posted: Sunday, May 25, 2008 - 08:11 AM UTC
Someone;s interpetation of Hell, a depiction of the suffering during war, Maybe, but as stated eariler, I would have to agree its Gruesome and would be Offensive to some people.
markIV
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Posted: Sunday, May 25, 2008 - 08:55 AM UTC
Thrilled,no.Queasy,yes.
jjumbo
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Posted: Sunday, May 25, 2008 - 09:18 AM UTC
YUUCCKK !! !
FredRMA
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Posted: Sunday, May 25, 2008 - 10:02 AM UTC
As I looked at the pics I could not help but think how gruesome and awful the dio was. Given the size and the number of figures involved I could not help but think how time consuming this dio was. I could not in any lifetime imagine surrounding myself with all of that gruesome mess for as long as it took them to construct it, says alot about the "artist" that designed it and built it. I agree that dio has vey little to do with scale model building an armor
SIRNEIL
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Posted: Sunday, May 25, 2008 - 10:18 AM UTC
NO 1. THIS IS NOT THRILLING!!!!!!!!!
NO 2. IT'S ABSOLUTE TOM TIT (rhyming slang)
NO 3. GET RID OF IT.........
NO 2. IT'S ABSOLUTE TOM TIT (rhyming slang)
NO 3. GET RID OF IT.........
okdoky
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Posted: Sunday, May 25, 2008 - 10:19 AM UTC
Hi there
Sorry to be contrary to other peoples thoughts here, but if this had been, say warhammer figures with sci-fi vehicles and the like, some would have praised the builder for using a lot of imagination to put the thing together.
Weird ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,yes,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
ugly ,,,,,,,,,,,,,possibly,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
offensive ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,maybe to some!!!!!!!!
Not necessarily a dio builder on acid,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, but certainly some consepts that would challenge your own thoughts about rights and wrongs. It certainly has raised an eyebrow or two on this forum. Is that a wrong thing
JMHO
Nige
Sorry to be contrary to other peoples thoughts here, but if this had been, say warhammer figures with sci-fi vehicles and the like, some would have praised the builder for using a lot of imagination to put the thing together.
Weird
,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,yes,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,ugly
,,,,,,,,,,,,,possibly,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,offensive
,,,,,,,,,,,,,,maybe to some!!!!!!!! Not necessarily a dio builder on acid,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, but certainly some consepts that would challenge your own thoughts about rights and wrongs. It certainly has raised an eyebrow or two on this forum. Is that a wrong thing
JMHO
Nige
petros
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Posted: Sunday, May 25, 2008 - 10:35 AM UTC
absolute SICK and DISGUSTING!!!!
product of a disturbed brain
product of a disturbed brain
Monsoon
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Posted: Sunday, May 25, 2008 - 10:55 AM UTC
Well, I think it's a waste of figures and time. Makes no sense.
But then again, if it doesn't make sense, it's "surreal".
But then again, if it doesn't make sense, it's "surreal".
Plasticbattle
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Posted: Sunday, May 25, 2008 - 11:31 AM UTC
A lot of fuss over nothing ... in my books .... both there and here!
Ok, its not to everyones taste, but armor modelling doesn´t always have to be a tank and 3 guys drinking tea beside it. Some people choose to use models to make a point or say something. Thats their buisness, their money and their time.
Im not sure what the creator´s goal was, but the quality of the work wasn´t that important to him. But if he was out after a reaction ... he´s got it here ... therefore will be considered as art and he has succeded ... even among modellers who can pick out kits and figures they recognise .... and ironically have built themselves.
Sometimes its good to think outside the box.
Ok, its not to everyones taste, but armor modelling doesn´t always have to be a tank and 3 guys drinking tea beside it. Some people choose to use models to make a point or say something. Thats their buisness, their money and their time.
Im not sure what the creator´s goal was, but the quality of the work wasn´t that important to him. But if he was out after a reaction ... he´s got it here ... therefore will be considered as art and he has succeded ... even among modellers who can pick out kits and figures they recognise .... and ironically have built themselves.
Sometimes its good to think outside the box.
tom
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Posted: Sunday, May 25, 2008 - 11:42 AM UTC
I posted a topic awhile ago asking if you where a modeler or a artist and this is one of those points I had when asking that.This dio is far from a modeler this is considered art.Me I consider this dio art work.Because a modeler does a piece of history and a artist does what he has to express them selfs as.
I don't know if it's good art but I know it's not a dio that should represent any part of history.The basic art or modeling part has good painting, weathering, etc.But the theme so far has come with negative feedback.And has really hit a nerve in some way shape or form on this forum.
Happy Modeling
Tom
I don't know if it's good art but I know it's not a dio that should represent any part of history.The basic art or modeling part has good painting, weathering, etc.But the theme so far has come with negative feedback.And has really hit a nerve in some way shape or form on this forum.
Happy Modeling
Tom
xFOX_HOUNDx
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Posted: Sunday, May 25, 2008 - 12:44 PM UTC
Thank GOD for the fire!!! This steaming pile of hemp rope is right where it needs to be, in the city's landfill. What absolute garbage, literaly and figuratively. This isn't art, just the work of a seriously ill escaped mental patient. I pitty those of you who try to defend and justify this absurdity. JMO.
I pitty those of you who try to defend and justify this absurdity. JMO.
AJLaFleche
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Posted: Sunday, May 25, 2008 - 12:58 PM UTC
There is precedent in the art world, e.g., Hieronymus Bosch,
and Picasso's Guenica
That said, my first thought was George Romero interprets Hieronymus Bosch.
and Picasso's Guenica
That said, my first thought was George Romero interprets Hieronymus Bosch.
anti-hero
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Posted: Sunday, May 25, 2008 - 01:19 PM UTC
Soooooo...is the moral of the diorama "Don't eat at McDonalds"" ????
CMOT
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Posted: Sunday, May 25, 2008 - 01:51 PM UTC
Quoted Text
A lot of fuss over nothing ... in my books .... both there and here!
Ok, its not to everyones taste, but armor modelling doesn´t always have to be a tank and 3 guys drinking tea beside it. Some people choose to use models to make a point or say something. Thats their buisness, their money and their time.
Im not sure what the creator´s goal was, but the quality of the work wasn´t that important to him. But if he was out after a reaction ... he´s got it here ... therefore will be considered as art and he has succeded ... even among modellers who can pick out kits and figures they recognise .... and ironically have built themselves.
Sometimes its good to think outside the box.
Good point Frank and if it was the artists intention to get a reaction he succeded, however does that qualify it as art?
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