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1/72 BR-52 Kreigslok and Krupp k5(e) Leopold
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Posted: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 - 10:20 AM UTC
Hi Andrew,
these links might be handy:
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Posted: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 - 12:14 PM UTC
Libor. thanks! that's gonna be a HUGE help! i just need to figure out which pale yellow color to use :/

also there are some pipes around the tender car that i want to create with a very rusty appearance. i was thinking of using baking powder with thinned white glue but i'm afraid that will be too rough. any suggestions?
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Posted: Thursday, February 19, 2009 - 07:40 AM UTC
I am just beginner in weathering, and I have no experience with baking powder on the kit, but in the kitchen. However I know well, some guys use this metod and it works, I gues you should try first. The best big amount of rust appearance I got on the ancher on my LWS using real rust, what you can get anywhere from rusty things outside, just with help of file or sand paper
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Posted: Thursday, February 19, 2009 - 08:45 AM UTC

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also there are some pipes around the tender car that i want to create with a very rusty appearance. i was thinking of using baking powder with thinned white glue but i'm afraid that will be too rough. any suggestions?



http://www.rustall.com/

This stuff works great.....

-G-
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Posted: Thursday, February 19, 2009 - 11:44 AM UTC
i have rustall n i love it. nothing is better for the color. (which i'll be using a lot on this build)the texture is what im concerned with

a lot of progress today sorry still no pics. finished the tender and almost done with the locomotive. probably will be done tomorrow and primed tommorw. i have neve primed a kit before. how long do i need to wait for it to dry?
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Posted: Thursday, February 19, 2009 - 01:16 PM UTC

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i have neve primed a kit before. how long do i need to wait for it to dry?



What primer are you using?
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Posted: Friday, February 20, 2009 - 03:57 AM UTC
just a rattle can of plastic primer from my local hardware store. i think its car paint plastic primer
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Posted: Friday, February 20, 2009 - 04:23 AM UTC

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just a rattle can of plastic primer from my local hardware store. i think its car paint plastic primer



If it's Krylon grey or red oxide primer it should dry in a few hours and be good to go. If you want to wait over-night that's even better. Plastikote auto primer is similar. You really don't need much, just a light coat to give the color coat something to "bite" into. Unless of course you have some serious scratches to fill, then give a heavier coat or use Mr. Surfacer 500 or 1000.

-G-
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Posted: Saturday, February 21, 2009 - 03:54 AM UTC
i havent tested it yet . i thinks its ust gery automobile plastic primer so whatever. hopefully i'll finish construction today and be able to prime it and i'll just wait over night to be safe
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Posted: Saturday, February 21, 2009 - 09:48 AM UTC
primed everything except for the railroad tracks. those are gonna b a pain to paine cause the wwoden slats are not seperate from the gravel bed.

quick question...did the germans use chain to conect cars in addition to the normal couplings?
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Posted: Sunday, February 22, 2009 - 05:44 AM UTC
ok finally here are some pictures of everything primed and almost ready to go. just need to add a few things here and there before real painting begins

major assemblies of the gun:


and of the engine/tender:
http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv171/apalella/Picture003.jpg








i'm not sure if i'm going to use the wind deflectors... and does anyone know what they're for?? its been bugging me










the tracks are going to be a real pain to paint. so far, i figured i'm going to spray the tannish grey color of the gravel 1st. when that's done i'm going to use microscale liquid mask and paint that around each individual wooden tie and then tape off the rest of the gravel and spray brown for the wood
if anyone has a easier method pleeease let me know!

also does anyone know if chains were used to connect the train cars??
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Posted: Monday, February 23, 2009 - 10:17 AM UTC
Hi Andrew.
some pictures of camo here:
br52 camo
I do not think that chains were ever used for coupling, it would not be safe, and I have never seen picture like that neither. Both kits together look great! I am just wondering, the sand valves seem to be too low to me?? Are they glued yet?
Libor
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Posted: Monday, February 23, 2009 - 06:54 PM UTC
Hi Andrew,

It's coming along nicely. Good to see which sub-divisions you have made for painting.

The wind deflectors are (as far as I know) to guide the smoke away from the engineers cabin. i.e. for the engineer to have a clear view and not to be "smoked out" of the cabin.

Regards,
Pascal
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Posted: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 - 03:57 AM UTC

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The wind deflectors are (as far as I know) to guide the smoke away from the engineers cabin. i.e. for the engineer to have a clear view and not to be "smoked out" of the cabin.



That's correct.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smoke_deflectors

These were usually found on large steam locomotives. In the USA they were typically found on the Challenger and "Big Boy" class locos. Some 4-8-4 Northerns also carried them.

-G-
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Posted: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 - 08:23 AM UTC
Libor- thanks for the link, i'v had a hard time finding builds or photos of the locomotive in grey/yellow camo and no the sand valves are not glued on yet. sonce i am going to be painting the under-carriage and wheels off black and the boiler/cab grey and camo, i didnt glue the valves to keep the two majpr parts seperate.

Jeff and Hut- thanks for the info!
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Posted: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 - 08:52 AM UTC
i'v also been looking at Archer's 1/72 decals for Leopold
http://www.archertransfers.com/AR72088.html because the decals that came in the kit look to be incomplete...there are more markings on the Archer sheet than on the sheet that came in the kit. however, i have never used Archer transfers before. are they the same as decals?
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Posted: Monday, March 02, 2009 - 07:31 AM UTC
hello again!

just starting painting. this morning i painted the interior of the railgun so i could glue on the deck and the railings. after that, im free to begin painting the rest. i sprayed the inside with tamiya dark grey with somewhere around 15-20% white. this is the fisrt time i'm going to account for the scale effect.

so for the gun i am going to use some mixture of dark grey, but since the locomotive is also going to be greyish, i was thinkign of adding a blueish tint. what do you think??
as for the trucks, i saw a build where someone painted them darker grey than the gun part, which i like. no blue tint for these, if i use blue at all.

now for the locomotive. the wheels etc. will be black, so really a vrey dark grey. i found a tamiya ratio for panzer grau RAL7021 but it just looked too dark for the scheme i'm trying to paint

the grey i need is for the sceme at the bottom


the mixture i found would look like this. not as good in my opinion


i also like how the front of this engine is darker- i shall do that on mine for the grey part only



so if anyone has any tips on what to do for the lighter grey, or the yellow- i havent gotten anywhere with that please let me know!!
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Posted: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 - 01:42 AM UTC
Hi Andrew,
good to see you busy. I have just come back from hospital and will keep in quiet for next days, to get my liver small rest. Then I will start the big building and finish my Karl. Well, the RAL is 7011 used for rail german grey, which is much lighter than 7021 panzer grey. I have gotten Humbrol 79 acrylic for my upcoming railway kits, and this one seems to fit well.
Libor
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Posted: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 - 11:01 AM UTC
glad to c ur back Libor, take care.

school was closed again yesterday due to snow, so here is what i have finished. i think im completely finished with all construction! phew ! . all chains and air hoses are also finished, as well as all the railings. hopefully these pictures are a bit better than the others. i think im starting to get the hang of it.



the chain and airhose in the picture above were found on blueprints at onethirtyfifth.com (i posted a link on the 1st page of this thread)

i did not use the chain supplied in the kit becuase it wasn't realistic enough







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Posted: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 - 11:08 AM UTC
sorry, i din't know why the pictures are coming out so small! you can't see the detail!
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Posted: Saturday, March 07, 2009 - 07:35 AM UTC
this morning i sprayed the wheels and under carriages of the locomotive and tender. it took a while to get paint in all those small corners. i mixed tamiya flat brown with dark grey, about the same amount of each. i might follow up with a light black and buff spray to make it more black.

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Posted: Sunday, March 08, 2009 - 03:49 AM UTC
Looking good. You're doing a fantastic job. Makes me want to build my BR-52...

I built the Hasegawa K-5e a few years ago...





-G-
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Posted: Sunday, March 08, 2009 - 05:50 AM UTC
She's coming along nicely Andrew, can't wait to see the color going on. How big is that model ?

Rob
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Posted: Monday, March 09, 2009 - 12:41 PM UTC
Jeff- looks good! thanks for the post. what color did you paint the gravel rail bed? i will paint it some form of buff because there will be so much grey on the kits already. also, how did you paint the ties? i still haven't found/devised a very efficeint way.

thanks Rob- the whole thing together is around 34 inches- barely half an inch shorter than the shelf i'll put it on in my room. both kits came with 4 track sections but i am only using 6 which is just enough.
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Posted: Monday, March 09, 2009 - 02:06 PM UTC
Looking very nice so far. I can't wait to see your paint job. I too have the leopold, however, it is quite a ways down on my to do list.