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Modeling a Photo 2 Campaign
1721Lancers
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Posted: Monday, August 06, 2012 - 03:23 AM UTC
Hello Robert,
thanks for plans of the flame thrower . I shall now
build one in 1 to 1 scale, it should help clear the allotment my wife has bought this sommer
Paul
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Posted: Monday, August 06, 2012 - 04:44 AM UTC
Your going to need some help with that one.
My question would be the need of the basketball setup, no telling where the ball would go when it hit the ground, if anywhere for that matter, like playing on a sponge.

But honestly a match would help......
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Posted: Monday, August 06, 2012 - 05:48 AM UTC

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Hello Robert,
thanks for plans of the flame thrower . I shall now
build one in 1 to 1 scale, it should help clear the allotment my wife has bought this sommer
Paul



Ahhhhhhhh Memories Paul !!!!!!!!!

My previous next door neighbour's garden was in a worse condition and the two of us used to delight in flame thrower technique to clear up !!!!!!!!!! Rather less hi tech !!!!!! Jerry can of petrol ,,,,,,,,,,,,, pour of large swaith of ground ,,,,,,,,,,,,, chuck lighted cloth and run !!!!!!!!!!!

I love the smell of napalm in the morning !!!!!!!!!!!

Police man turned up once and just shook his head at Rab holding Jerry can and me with garden hose with a dribble of water running out ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, flames shooting 20 foot in the air !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

All under control ocifer !!!!!!!!!!! Promise !!!!!!!!!

Good luck with the garden and with the model !!!

Ha ha ha ha ha ha

Nige
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Posted: Tuesday, August 07, 2012 - 11:55 PM UTC
Bob you need to add a disclaimer to your post saying "I am not responsible if people build a real flame thrower from my drawings" and like I said you can start making the scratch pieces just dont glue them together yet

If some of you guys need ideas well take a look through this tread that Mukund posted on the Blitz 4 Tread
http://forums.gamesquad.com/showthread.php?104031-WW2-Photos/page28

its 54 pages of high quality photos on every topic, that I have been looking through the past few days. I may change my planed build
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Posted: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 - 05:33 AM UTC

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If some of you guys need ideas well take a look through this tread that Mukund posted on the Blitz 4 Tread
http://forums.gamesquad.com/showthread.php?104031-WW2-Photos/page28

its 54 pages of high quality photos on every topic, that I have been looking through the past few days. I may change my planed build



Hi Sal, that´s a nice link you´ve put in there.
Now this is for everyone who is interested in the pic 4 or the SdKfz234/4, here´s some pics I took in July 2004. She still has the strange paint job that the Bovvy Tank Museum gave her, but thankfully the dudes in Munster Tank museum corrrected this
look and enjoy








I hope the open breach block, and the position of the opening / closing handle, answers many questions about the positioning of these in the loading mode.
hope ya al´like id
Paul
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Posted: Thursday, August 09, 2012 - 01:26 AM UTC
Nice pictures there Paul, thanks for shearing
and as I predicted I did find a new photo of what I want to build here I will be doing some Tiger Tending
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I just got a shipment of Tigers in and will use this Tamiya kit

and this figure kit from Academy

Now I need to find a figure with the unruly hair standing there watching and figure out what number is between the 2 and the 4 any help would be very much appreciated
Also red or black number What do you guys think
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Posted: Thursday, August 09, 2012 - 01:32 AM UTC
I would hazard the numbers would be red with a white outline Sal. Also, the middle number, since it's so completely hidden by the chap standing there, would probably be thin, so I'm thinking a "1" giving the number "214" on the back of the turret bin. Fun kit that older Tamiya Tiger I mid production. Indy track links on the sprues, if I remember right. Should be fun.

Also, not sure if it's been covered, but if I use a still from a movie (screen capture for example) would that fit the criteria for the campaign? If not I'm sure I can find something else on the interwebz.
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Posted: Thursday, August 09, 2012 - 02:04 AM UTC

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I would hazard the numbers would be red with a white outline Sal. Also, the middle number, since it's so completely hidden by the chap standing there, would probably be thin, so I'm thinking a "1" giving the number "214" on the back of the turret bin. Fun kit that older Tamiya Tiger I mid production. Indy track links on the sprues, if I remember right. Should be fun.

Also, not sure if it's been covered, but if I use a still from a movie (screen capture for example) would that fit the criteria for the campaign? If not I'm sure I can find something else on the interwebz.



Matt, I was leaning towards "214" in red and white numbers as well and yes it has Indy track links on the spruces
which I will use not big into the AM stuff, but I do have Trumpeters Zimm making tool kit which I will be using for the 1st time

And Yes you may use a still from a movie as long as you can get it posted in the tread so we have an idea of what you are building
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Posted: Thursday, August 09, 2012 - 03:25 AM UTC
I have never lucked out and had a figure kit to match any of my dio's except once, Civilian pushing a wheelbarrow. Just remembered a dio I did with either the same grew or something singular, loading shells.

Received my plastic stock in the mail so I believe I have everything. I can’t put together but not glue, each part is going to be a one of a kind and I have to actually build it from the bottom up.

I have to finish my research and do a right up on the models so I can post it on the 15th start up so everyone knows what I’m doing.

I just looked through the 6 pages to get acquainted with everything going on. Looks like some great ideas coming out. I also found the old post for the first campaign, sorry I didn’t get a chance to do that one, about the time I fell of the earth, well the world goes on and I’ll do my best to finish this one.

Here’s to sticking with it.
Bob
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Posted: Thursday, August 09, 2012 - 04:49 AM UTC
Hi Sal,
I´d say it´s red, just check the guys head gear who´s standing in front of the number. That is black, black is always black or maybe very dark grey, where as red becomes shade of grey but light. The tracks in your chosen kit go together lovely, just a load of ejector pin marks to clean up, there the same as in the Sturmmörser kit. For the crazy hair dude the only thing that I have seen is this guy.
Nr 6 (and he does sort of resemble P.McGoohan)on the Tamiya
35201 German Tank Crew at rest.

Somebody said they´re going to do a Chieftain with the Berlin camo. Crazy paint job i did one a long time ago, good luck bud. This one is in Duxford IWM UK

Paul
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Posted: Friday, August 31, 2012 - 08:09 AM UTC
Hey Guys good news I think I found something in the spare parts box that will work for that figure with the unruly hair

Well we got about 2 weeks before the kick off of this 1 and Im making room on my bench to get started ASAP
So lets see what photos everyone will be using and what kits they will use
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Posted: Friday, August 31, 2012 - 10:54 PM UTC
Hi Sal,

I vote "Red" too, but need to sound a note of caution. Monochrome film came in several different chemical formulas, and these could do odd things to certain colours. In some that were popular at the time, red came out very dark - often being interpreted as black or dark blue based on how dark it was compared to other colours in the picture. Others might turn blue very dark, but turned red very light grey. Then there was Ted Turner's computerized colouring process for black&white movies, that gave Ol' Blue Eyes brown eyes! (D'oh!) You really need a good reference to be safe, or hope that nobody knows for sure so you can't be proved wrong! (As Bart said, "I didn't do it. Nobody saw me. You can't prove anything...")

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Posted: Tuesday, September 04, 2012 - 06:17 PM UTC
Hi Team,
The start date is nearing. So how are things? Have you decided on a photo yet?

Time to clear your work benches and take those kits out of storge..... Lets keep the thread rolling with start pics
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Posted: Thursday, September 06, 2012 - 01:18 AM UTC
I have the Reference section done so I’ll get this out of the way and start on the 15th with construction and photos.



For a simplified explanation of the photo I am recreating.
The 2 LVT’s pictured had their one and only appearance during the Peleliu Campaign. The LVT 4 on the left was a fixture in every battle from here on out but what it carried was a “Q” model flamethrower conceived by the National Defense Research Committee. It started out for installation in light tanks but those were out of favor, they rechristened it the Navy Mark 1 and sent 5 units to Hawaii in April 1944.

The Navy than promptly turned the unit down as unsuitable for Amphibious Operations due its excessive weight. So the Army than adopted the units, but the 43rd Chemical Laboratory determined them to be too bulky and heavy for installation in tanks.

In June 1944 a Navy flame thrower detachment joined the 1st Marine Division on Guadalcanal which was preparing for the invasion of the Palau Islands. Their interest arose and they mounted 3 of the units in the back of the LVT 4 for trials. Testing revealed some drawbacks from the heavy vibrations when the LVT 4 operated on land and were only partially remedied by improvisation and substitution. There was a shortage of napalm which prevented the proper training of men and testing of the equipment.

The flamethrower did not see action until D+3 due to various reasons but from then on the saw regular combat. In the first phase of the battle the flamethrowers worked ahead of the Infantry and even ahead of the tanks. Upon reaching the hills the attack slackened and both provided covering support.

The units were often moved between various LVT 4’s due to track or engine problems, I have noted them on 8 different LVT’s. After the battle the tank flamethrower was finalized and these units were cannibalized.

So at D+3 these two were sitting on the beach ready to go inland. The flame throwers were first on LVT’s identified as I-A-O, I-B-O and I-C-O; from then on it was whatever LVT was handy when they put back in for repairs. Like Number 16, number 12, IA-41, IA-17 and 1A-60. A couple had some interesting camouflage, all were the blue/grey with green sections painted and another looks to be painted in a 2 tone color over the blue/grey. This photo shows them in the original LVT-4 when they went ashore so one of the first 3 would be correct for the photo, solid blue/grey.

The LVT on the right is the LVT (A) 4 which also was a fixture in every battle from here on out but this specific one was rebuilt into a moveable radio command post.

(From USMC Monograph “The Seizure of Peleliu” by Major Frank Hough, USMC, Chapter III “D-Day on Peleliu”)

“For maintaining communications on D-Day, the advance CP relied largely on a curious experimental LVT(A) especially equipped to serve as a mobile radio station (facetiously dubbed "USS Fubar"). This performed valuable service in this emergency but developed too many weaknesses to be considered wholly successful. Establishment of the initial wire network presented almost insurmountable difficulties owing to heavy fire, lack of natural growth for raising it aboveground, and the congestion of the beachhead area which caused the wires to be chewed up by vehicles when laid on the ground.”

I have a number of photos and clips showing this LVT (A) 4 and as I go through the building process I will post those photos showing the numerous differences of the vehicle. Over all painting would be in the blue/grey solid color.
Color frame from a movie, looks kind of blue/grey to me.
(This is B-6 LVT (A) 4)



I have everything already to go but still need to purchase a new LVT4 that I haven’t messed with.

First is the Flame Thrower…………..on Sept 15th of course…..
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Posted: Tuesday, September 11, 2012 - 01:18 PM UTC
I will go with a Porche King Tiger for this campaign. I will be using the Dragon Premium edition kit. This is the photo I will build.

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Posted: Tuesday, September 11, 2012 - 01:48 PM UTC
Hey Guys, thanks for the input on the numbers I will go with Red ones as well as a two color camo paint job over Zimm made from Squadron putty

@ Bob Card, Thanks for the history lesson Looking forward to your build I assume it will be in 1/35 scale

@Jasper, Nice photo of a knocked out KT will you be including the building with the Dubonnet sign in the background or just the puddle in the foreground Either way I'm looking forward to see that KT

I'll be busy marching down 5th Ave with my gun club on kick off day So here is my start up photo of my kits
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and the photo i am depicting
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the 5th figure with the out of control hair will come from the spare parts box

3 days to kick off what do the rest of you have planned
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Posted: Tuesday, September 11, 2012 - 09:09 PM UTC
Hi there everyone,
I will be sticking to my original choice of the King Tiger.
I shall not be starting with you all in 3 days though.
Last Saturday I had an accident, I got off my bike in an unconventional way, i.e. over the handle bar. I now have 3 busted ribs (5,6,and 7) and can only move my right hand.
Damn it now I have time and can´t do anything . I´ll be
watching though so don´t do anything I wouldn´t.
happy modelling.
Paul.
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Posted: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 - 01:30 AM UTC
OUCH!!!
Hopefully it will be in no time at all you'll be back at the work bench.
Be careful,
Bob
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Posted: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 - 10:49 AM UTC

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Last Saturday I had an accident, I got off my bike in an unconventional way, i.e. over the handle bar. I now have 3 busted ribs (5,6,and 7) and can only move my right hand.
happy modelling.
Paul.



OUCH is right Paul
feel better we all wish you a speedy recovery
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Posted: Friday, September 14, 2012 - 06:36 AM UTC
hi guys,

unfortuntely my previous idea wont be able to materialise due to not beng able to afford both kits.
my next plan is to build a small dio loosely based on the below photo with masterboxes british paras the one with a injured guy. is that possible.



luca
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Posted: Friday, September 14, 2012 - 06:42 AM UTC
sorry ill try again



luca
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Posted: Friday, September 14, 2012 - 09:24 AM UTC
Here is what i will be modeling



I will try to replicate the muzzle flash
and here are the kits I will be using



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Posted: Friday, September 14, 2012 - 12:14 PM UTC
@ Luca sure is possible you gonna have the Scout car too or just the figures

@Jon WOW your gonna build both kits that's cool

Ok guys on the other side of the pond this should have kicked off already so what are you guys waiting for lets see what you got
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Posted: Friday, September 14, 2012 - 06:42 PM UTC
Thanks sal

Ill see about the scout car.
Thank you for leting me build it

Luca