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Posted: Friday, November 01, 2013 - 03:49 AM UTC


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Posted: Friday, November 01, 2013 - 03:53 AM UTC
Frenchy, Thanks for all your fine assistance.


. . . but what is this F3 vs. L2 service truck question? I have never heard of that before, also the serial number on the vehicle ID plate you just posted says A1?????
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Posted: Friday, November 01, 2013 - 06:20 AM UTC
The thread on g503.com is a discussion about what model is the truck pictured in the Flickr photo album : some say it's a F-3 750 Gallon Refueling tanker and others think it could be a L-2 660 Gallon Airfield Lubrication/Refueling tanker. I must say I've never heard of the L-2 variant

F-3 :


L-2 :


In both cases the hood markings appear to be the same

On a side note, here's a picture that shows a single hose reel and a large gauge like those in the picture you've posted :



from this thread

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Posted: Friday, November 01, 2013 - 11:43 AM UTC
Thanks, I was looking for additional reference for the rear spare tire bracket and your posting provided it!
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Posted: Saturday, November 02, 2013 - 01:44 PM UTC
The bracket without the tire tells me everything I need to know!

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Posted: Sunday, November 03, 2013 - 12:59 AM UTC
Anybody know anything about this Hobbs trailer? Looks easy enough to scratch build but was it really WWII era?

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Posted: Monday, November 11, 2013 - 08:20 AM UTC
Hey, how 'bout a short wheelbase dumper? With a pipe bumper no less! I like it!


(Photo US Navy Seebee Museum.)
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Posted: Monday, November 11, 2013 - 08:43 AM UTC

Quoted Text

was it really WWII era?



I guess so. The TM 9-887 mentioned in this thread was published in 1943.

More pics :







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Posted: Monday, November 11, 2013 - 09:06 AM UTC
Overall size???

Bed size is 88" wide x 168" long and stands 49" high, the same as a Jimmy.

Thanks Frenchy - you did it again!!!

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Posted: Monday, November 11, 2013 - 09:29 AM UTC
No overall size, but a few more pics















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Posted: Tuesday, November 12, 2013 - 07:55 AM UTC
Another nice shot of a CCKW coming ashore the hard way!

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Posted: Wednesday, November 13, 2013 - 12:35 PM UTC
Found shot of a flying Deuce:


(Photo US Navy Seebee Museum)
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Posted: Thursday, November 14, 2013 - 03:48 AM UTC
OK, it's not a deuce but it is built on the 2 axle Chevy chassis that we have spoken of often! Ugly in its' cuteness. Ft. Knox had one that bused people around the base during WWII and for many years after. It is still in the Patton Museum collection (in rather sad shape however) which I guess should now be called the Benning Collection.



Do not think this one should have even left Knox! But then I don't think ANY of the collection should have ever left Knox! - At least not until an appropriate building could be built at Benning. And the $3 Million spent to move the collection to Benning just to be stored outside in the weather with no Museum to house them was a royal waste of government funds not to mention the harm done to the collection!

Things are improving at Benning however as they now have a giant barn plus a new Butler building to get some of the more important items in out of the weather!
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Posted: Thursday, November 14, 2013 - 09:20 AM UTC
Louisiana maneuvers, 1941 :



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Posted: Thursday, November 14, 2013 - 09:51 AM UTC
Ex-military airport firetruck :



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Posted: Thursday, November 14, 2013 - 10:04 AM UTC
Henri - I LOVE that fire truck, perfect! Thanks for posting.
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Posted: Thursday, November 14, 2013 - 10:20 AM UTC
You can find a larger picture here :

http://www.flickr.com/photos/chrisk48/8208516877/sizes/l/in/photostream/

Another view :

http://www.flickr.com/photos/kensaviation/3425992942/sizes/l/in/photostream/



It belongs to the Pima Air & Space Museum in Tucson, Arizona.

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Posted: Thursday, November 14, 2013 - 10:51 AM UTC
I have always liked the look of the Darley front mounted water pump - never saw a wartime vehicle with a water cannon but I'm no expert on the subject - and it looks great!
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Posted: Friday, November 15, 2013 - 04:43 AM UTC
Interior shot of the Chevy bus - driver's station.

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Posted: Friday, November 15, 2013 - 04:58 AM UTC
A couple more shots of the relatively specialized GMC set up for the 60" Sperry Searchlight.



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Posted: Friday, November 15, 2013 - 05:00 AM UTC
I'm looking for a real one of these. We've got the AFKWX with the searchlights rignt now, but the crew-cab COE would be awesome to have!
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Posted: Friday, November 15, 2013 - 05:09 AM UTC
Chevy 2-axle ex-military firetruck with Darley Co. front mounted water pump. The pump is driven off a very short driveshaft that connects to the engine main pulley. This design requires a special radiator with a inverted U shaped cutout in the bottom center to clear this driveshaft.

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Posted: Friday, November 15, 2013 - 12:18 PM UTC
The Darley




If the vehicle engine is running this shaft is turning. There is a manual lever action clutch on the pump that will engage the pump and start the water flowing.
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Posted: Tuesday, November 19, 2013 - 06:58 AM UTC
Red Army Chevy :



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Posted: Thursday, November 21, 2013 - 12:09 AM UTC
Interior shot, General George S. Patton's WWII command CCKW. (Overall view posted earlier.)


(Mike Koenig Photo - Patton Museum)