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Waiting for a new Deuce and a Half
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Posted: Thursday, October 17, 2013 - 07:47 AM UTC
I hate to say it but there is just something not right about that hood. It seems too short and not sloped enough????C|:-)

Opinions anyone?

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Posted: Thursday, October 17, 2013 - 07:51 AM UTC
Another shot of my IH under construction:



The presence of vertical louvers on the engine bonnett I can fix, no problem.
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Posted: Thursday, October 17, 2013 - 07:52 AM UTC

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It seems too short and not sloped enough????C|:-)

Opinions anyone?



I'm afraid so

http://www.o5m6.de/ihc_m_5_6_bm_13_16.html


http://www.o5m6.de/ihc_m_5_6-318.html


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Posted: Thursday, October 17, 2013 - 08:01 AM UTC
Maybe the cab looks more like the ton and a half IHC-3-4? Dawg gone it!





I think it would almost be easier to pull one of the rear axles off and shorten the frame even more to make the ton and a half International.

Looks like I'm going back to the drawing board on this one!
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Posted: Thursday, October 17, 2013 - 08:57 AM UTC

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On the heels of the topic "Waiting for a new Famo" are the following remarks about the logic of Tamiya producing new variants of their great GMC Duece and a Half model.

I am always amazed at Tamiya in that after a model has matured (the tooling is paid for and sales are dropping off due to market saturation) they don't seem to even think to come out with other possible variants to "re-interest" the market in their kits.

A good example I think is the GMC Deuce and a Half. Tamiya produces a GREAT kit of the soft top cab version but now as sales slow down it would be a natural to come out with as an example; the enclosed cab version.

But the list of possible variants would be quite long; a fuel truck (2 styles plus a trailer), a dump truck, an extra long wheelbase version, a short wheelbase version, cab over engine, fire truck, crane, 1 1/4 ton two-axle version, 2-axle semi-tractor (with a large group of associated trailers), etc.

The list for the Deuce is almost endless and doing variants would mean minimual front end investment in retooling, yelding a maximum return on investment.

the Chassis Man



for the 2 axle chevy 1 1/2 ton you just shorten the frame and the cargo bed on the tamiya duece and a half, use the enclosed cap from italeri's duece and half fuel tanker then you have your chevy 1 1/2 ton truck then just use the left over tanker body to build you fuel tanker on another tamiya duece and a half and the parts will fit and its a lot cheaper than getting the resin conversions
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Posted: Thursday, October 17, 2013 - 10:38 AM UTC
Great pictures of the IHC's Mike! I need some good photos and plans of the fire truck body so I can build my dad's truck like the picture I showed you. I managed to pick up a base kit.
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Posted: Thursday, October 17, 2013 - 01:23 PM UTC
Hi Mike,

Here are a couple of pictures of my father in the Philippines in 1945.

Trying to get a good look at the front grill of this truck. Should it have the flat bar grill in front with the guards that go around the headlights?

Also, in the second pic, it looks like a fuel oil shaped drum behind the cab. Are my eyes playing tricks on me?

The guy standing on the right with his hand on his hip is my father.




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Posted: Friday, October 18, 2013 - 01:41 AM UTC
John: Could be a water/foam flightline crash truck with water in the large retangular tank and chemical retardent in the oval tank. (I am just guessing here. I have no idea if they had such equipment back then.)

You can bet on the fact I will be looking for more info on this. It would be an interesting vehicle to model!
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Posted: Friday, October 18, 2013 - 01:53 AM UTC
For tanknick22;

Check out some of the other pages on this thread as there is a lot of discussion and reference on building the 1 1/2 ton Chevy (One of my favorites) by chopping the Deuce kit.

Thanks for joining in. Mike
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Posted: Friday, October 18, 2013 - 02:40 AM UTC
Could the truck in John's post be a modified (?) US Navy FFN-3 Class Fire and Crash Truck ?





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Posted: Friday, October 18, 2013 - 03:04 AM UTC
I fired off an e-mail to David Doyle the military author. His two favorite things are military vehicles and firetrucks. (Add Lionel Trains to that list!)

Hopefully he can shead some light on this vehicle.
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Posted: Friday, October 18, 2013 - 03:32 AM UTC
A nice shot of the IHC-3-4 in US markings:

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Posted: Friday, October 18, 2013 - 03:45 AM UTC
Frenchy, you are the man!!!! Thank you for the pics! I knew you would be "Johnny on the spot" with some pics!

Mike, sounds good! I'm eager to learn a little more my self. When I get time, I'll try to compose a little background about my father.
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Posted: Friday, October 18, 2013 - 05:03 AM UTC

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Frenchy, you are the man!!!! Thank you for the pics! I knew you would be "Johnny on the spot" with some pics!



You're welcome

Soft top variant :



Here's a related thread :

http://g503.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=214892

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Posted: Monday, October 21, 2013 - 01:37 AM UTC
Found photo: Russian Katyusha on CCKW chassis:



Now everyone is clearly free to mount the Katyusha launcher assembly on your favorite CCKW long wheelbase chassis. I love the additional crew seating positions on the vehicle!
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Posted: Monday, October 21, 2013 - 01:41 AM UTC
Frenchy - Thanks for all your contributions! Your reference sources are amazing!

Mike
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Posted: Monday, October 21, 2013 - 01:52 AM UTC
Another IHC-5-6 photo:
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Posted: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 - 02:12 AM UTC
Beautiful Photoshop work on this Army Corps compressor truck:


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Posted: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 - 03:18 AM UTC
Big John

Still have found no additional info on your Dad's firetruck. There has got to be room in there amidships for the water pump driven off the main driveshaft and it is usually located where tha big vertical tank is now????

Sorry more questions than answers. Mike
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Posted: Wednesday, October 23, 2013 - 01:10 AM UTC
We have not even mentioned the DUKW amphibious version of the tried and true Deuce and a Half. How 'bout a few photos from the TM???


Above is the early production version of the DUKW with the vertical windshield and the windshield mounted splashboard.


Below is late production with sloped windshield. (Note full wheel skirts in this photo.]
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Posted: Wednesday, October 23, 2013 - 01:23 AM UTC
Here is a shot you won't see very often. I will have to check and see if the Archer decal set includes these items for the back of the splash board. It would finally be a good reason to pose the splash board in the extended position! (Never cared for the look of it up till now!)



Sorry surf board not splash board. (I sit corrected.)
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Posted: Wednesday, October 23, 2013 - 01:26 AM UTC
View od early production windshield splah board:

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Posted: Wednesday, October 23, 2013 - 01:29 AM UTC
Rear load box surf board structure. (Can be stowed under floor boards in load compartment when not needed):



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Posted: Wednesday, October 23, 2013 - 01:36 AM UTC
I hope everyone is liking this new addition to the thread.

Might have to move this DUKW series over into it's own walk around thread as I have lots of photos of the DUKW taken at various MVPA and LST events plu photos from the TM.

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Posted: Wednesday, October 23, 2013 - 02:34 AM UTC
Surf board lettering is in YELLOW no less! * * * * MORE yellow lettering inside - gotta have - please Papa Archer!!!