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Armor/AFV: Axis - WWII
Armor and ground forces of the Axis forces during World War II.
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Posted: Sunday, May 05, 2013 - 02:37 AM UTC
Sorry for the bump. I was trying to explain to a buddy how to find this thread as he is pretty new at using websites. Thought this would help. Sorry,
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Posted: Tuesday, May 07, 2013 - 04:57 AM UTC
Slapped some paint on the radio op compartment and started to weather the same. Thought I'd try a little something different for the glass blocks on the wall. Does it work?
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Posted: Tuesday, May 07, 2013 - 06:40 AM UTC
The glass looks convincing, to me. The interior is outstanding!
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Posted: Tuesday, May 07, 2013 - 07:34 AM UTC

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The glass looks convincing, to me. The interior is outstanding!

Thanks Matt!
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Posted: Tuesday, May 07, 2013 - 04:46 PM UTC
Definitley doing everything right. What paint did you use for the interior? Whatever it is it looks great. This build log couldn't have come at a better time, I''ve got a 251 I plan on starting sometime this month.

Great stuff as always

-Conor
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Posted: Tuesday, May 07, 2013 - 05:47 PM UTC
Looks good!
Don't forget to paint the seats. As far as I know the edges of the dials were not metal but bakelit, which would be black as would the round knobs be in front of the driver. That's just some nitpicking, but it adds more to the overall look.

And the more I look at it, the more I really like that floor....
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Posted: Wednesday, May 08, 2013 - 01:34 AM UTC

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Definitley doing everything right. What paint did you use for the interior? Whatever it is it looks great. This build log couldn't have come at a better time, I''ve got a 251 I plan on starting sometime this month.

Great stuff as always

-Conor

The overall paint was Tamiya buff,white and yellow,mixed until it looked OK to me? It's so hard to get that dark yellow color to look good. There is still no paint on the market that I have seen that captures it.
The rest of the colors are all Vallejo except for the metal color and that is Citadel"lead".
Will be looking for your 251,
J
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Posted: Wednesday, May 08, 2013 - 01:42 AM UTC

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Looks good!
Don't forget to paint the seats. As far as I know the edges of the dials were not metal but bakelit, which would be black as would the round knobs be in front of the driver. That's just some nitpicking, but it adds more to the overall look.

And the more I look at it, the more I really like that floor....

I thought I did paint the seat? Do you mean the seat cushion? I made that field grey. I haven't touched the drivers' seat yet as I will paint that when I do the driver. Thanks for the info on the dashboard. I didn't know that. I did not spend a lot of time there because you can barely see anything with the top on.
I will add some more wear and tear on the floor but not a lot. German paint was very good and didn't break down as fast as modelers usually portay. I was around APCs for about 10 years and we really beat those floors,walking and grinding gravel,mud,dirt,etc and the paint held up fairly well,so I am kind of sceptical about the models I see with the floors ground down to primer and bare metal. I may be a modeling heretic though.
Thanks for checking in and I enjoy your website.
J
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Posted: Wednesday, May 08, 2013 - 02:17 AM UTC
Hi Jerry,
sorry, my mistake.
On my screen the seatcushion looked as grey as the unpainted plastic.
As far as that chipping and wearing goes, I guess we're both heretics. Military paints are made to last and will not come off all that easy, unless you use a beltsander.
Thanks for the comments on the site!
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Posted: Wednesday, May 08, 2013 - 02:41 AM UTC

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Hi Jerry,
sorry, my mistake.
On my screen the seatcushion looked as grey as the unpainted plastic.
As far as that chipping and wearing goes, I guess we're both heretics. Military paints are made to last and will not come off all that easy, unless you use a beltsander.
Thanks for the comments on the site!

Thanks Ron,great minds think alike? Don't get me wrong though. When I see some of the weathering techniques on the interwebs and the amount of skill and time used to achieve the effects I am astounded. I always appreciate good work. I still doubt the accuracy of it though as sometimes I see tanks modeled from the ardennes that were just issued in Sept and never in combat yet they are painted to look like they stood on Aberdeen proving grounds for 45 years.
About"my" floor though,I am happy with the color but I want to get a more subtle shine on it as wear would look like that. The first thing to wear off is the "flat or matt" look to paint. In other words I want to keep the color but add a little sheen. Maybe glaze?
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Posted: Wednesday, May 08, 2013 - 03:59 AM UTC
Maybe drybrush it in a slightly darker tinge with a hint of semigloss?
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Posted: Wednesday, May 08, 2013 - 04:10 AM UTC

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Maybe drybrush it in a slightly darker tinge with a hint of semigloss?

Sounds like a viablr plan. I will give it a shot.
J
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Posted: Wednesday, May 08, 2013 - 05:58 AM UTC
I went back and looked at Fausts' walkaround. It looks like the forward stowage bins on the inside walls have no bottom and the rear ones do. It also looks like the rear bins have a longer(lower) front panel where the seat backrest is attached? Any back up pics? I always hate to reply on restorations. Plus anybody know what those devices are that are forward of the spare mg barrel cases on the side walls?
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Posted: Wednesday, May 08, 2013 - 03:13 PM UTC
Got the crew seats done. Tried using my new Vallejo 2 part natural wood colors. I usually use oil paint for wood as I like the richness of the oil paint colors but this isn't too bad? I did a lot of extra tweeking on the seats.
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Posted: Wednesday, May 08, 2013 - 06:10 PM UTC
An awesome painting and weathering job!

Regards,

Villiers
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Posted: Wednesday, May 08, 2013 - 06:24 PM UTC
The wood is brilliant!
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Posted: Wednesday, May 08, 2013 - 06:52 PM UTC
If by devices you mean those 2 blocks, those are spare glass visionblocks for the front visors.
And yes the larger stowage bins have no floors, since they are basically weaponlockers. The backrest can be folded downwards so the troops had access to the weapons.
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Posted: Thursday, May 09, 2013 - 01:18 AM UTC

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An awesome painting and weathering job!

Regards,

Villiers


Thanks Villiers,
So the new paints work for you?
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Posted: Thursday, May 09, 2013 - 01:18 AM UTC

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The wood is brilliant!

Thanks Matt!
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Posted: Thursday, May 09, 2013 - 01:22 AM UTC

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If by devices you mean those 2 blocks, those are spare glass visionblocks for the front visors.
And yes the larger stowage bins have no floors, since they are basically weaponlockers. The backrest can be folded downwards so the troops had access to the weapons.

That is good to know. I saw it on the walkaround that was linked for me here and wanted to confirm it. You are the expert so I will go with it. On my next build I will re-make the stowage bins as Dragon didn't quite catch that detail.
The devices I meant are on the 251 walkaround piccis. They are on both sides on the crew compartment in between the backrests and the seats. They are in front of the spare MG barrel cases and sort of look like MG mounts but not quite?
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Posted: Thursday, May 09, 2013 - 04:00 AM UTC
I think you are refering to those tubethings? That's the place the MG's would have been stored, so I guess they are the brackets in which to hang the MG42,s. The square clip is where the body of the MG goes.
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Posted: Thursday, May 09, 2013 - 05:29 AM UTC

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I think you are refering to those tubethings? That's the place the MG's would have been stored, so I guess they are the brackets in which to hang the MG42,s. The square clip is where the body of the MG goes.

I believe that you are correct Sir!! I looked at it carefully and it is permanently attached to the wall. I first thought it was removable and that is why I didn't know what it was for. I wonder what that thing is above it on the right side wall? The sling is from the rifle in the rack above but what that other thing is now puzzles me.
Where are the retired panzergren. when you need them?
Thanks again Ron,you alway have some good intel.
I am not convinced the seats were unpainted but as some one suggested,they add more interest this way....heresy?
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Posted: Thursday, May 09, 2013 - 07:16 PM UTC

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An awesome painting and weathering job!

Regards,

Villiers


Thanks Villiers,
So the new paints work for you?
J


Definitely
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Posted: Friday, May 10, 2013 - 01:36 AM UTC

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An awesome painting and weathering job!

Regards,

Villiers


Thanks Villiers,
So the new paints work for you?
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Definitely

Thank you,Merci,danke,gratzi,Sir and thanks for looking in,
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Posted: Friday, May 10, 2013 - 08:24 AM UTC
Felt like working on figs today so here is where I'm at with one of the line men. He will be holding a long pole for retrieved wires in trees. Has his gloves and cutting tool handy in his top pockets,
J

Still needs a little touch up before paint. It's good to post pics here so I can see stuff I missed.
J
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