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M4A3E8 FURY (movie) Diorama
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Posted: Saturday, August 23, 2014 - 04:53 AM UTC

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Here is a link to the article ...
http://collider.com/fury-images-brad-pitt/



Funny ... The uniforms look as though they've been artistically enhanced by a figure painter!
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Posted: Saturday, August 23, 2014 - 11:18 AM UTC

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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0yytRWAls4s

Fury is the last tank!!



Nick,

That's the same tank you posted in our previous youtube link. It's a weird mishmash of stuff and is probably being used for promotional purposes for the film in France as RON is probably sitting at the Bovington museum in the UK. I think some scenes might've been shot with this tank too because I found a still of it decked out with a filming apparatus attached to the turret/gun area. This tank appears to have the A2 overhang with the continental radial engine deck and the grouser covers. So it was most likely and M4A2E8 at some point that was converted to a radial perhaps due the combination of both shortages of the diesel power plant parts and an abundance of surplus continental engines. I think early Israeli Shermans were almost all initially converted to continentals for the same reason before the Israelis started using modern Diesel engines.

The first video you posted of it the fellas standing around it were speaking French, then you posted a video of the D-Day 70th anniversary celebrations so I'm concluding that this tank is probably in France

Here is a link to the article that featured that photo, just like the tank in your two youtube links, this tank has no mantlet attachment brackets and has a continental engine deck. Note the film crew taking a rest on the engine deck, the picture is about hallway down the page and shows the tank form the right rear with the gun at the 9 o'clock position. Check it out.

http://collider.com/fury-images-brad-pitt/



Pedro, it looks as though they have used 2/3 different variants for different camera angles and scenes. You maybe right about the tank in France been a promotional mock up, or it could have been used to shoot a scene or two in France. I guess with all these variants it gives us modellers a bit of flexibility in portraying "Fury".
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Posted: Sunday, August 24, 2014 - 03:29 AM UTC

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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0yytRWAls4s

Fury is the last tank!!



Nick,

That's the same tank you posted in our previous youtube link. It's a weird mishmash of stuff and is probably being used for promotional purposes for the film in France as RON is probably sitting at the Bovington museum in the UK. I think some scenes might've been shot with this tank too because I found a still of it decked out with a filming apparatus attached to the turret/gun area. This tank appears to have the A2 overhang with the continental radial engine deck and the grouser covers. So it was most likely and M4A2E8 at some point that was converted to a radial perhaps due the combination of both shortages of the diesel power plant parts and an abundance of surplus continental engines. I think early Israeli Shermans were almost all initially converted to continentals for the same reason before the Israelis started using modern Diesel engines.

The first video you posted of it the fellas standing around it were speaking French, then you posted a video of the D-Day 70th anniversary celebrations so I'm concluding that this tank is probably in France

Here is a link to the article that featured that photo, just like the tank in your two youtube links, this tank has no mantlet attachment brackets and has a continental engine deck. Note the film crew taking a rest on the engine deck, the picture is about hallway down the page and shows the tank form the right rear with the gun at the 9 o'clock position. Check it out.

http://collider.com/fury-images-brad-pitt/



Pedro, it looks as though they have used 2/3 different variants for different camera angles and scenes. You maybe right about the tank in France been a promotional mock up, or it could have been used to shoot a scene or two in France. I guess with all these variants it gives us modellers a bit of flexibility in portraying "Fury".



Nick,

It makes more sense to hire or rent another vehicle in France and apply the same movie make-up treatment rather than transport RON over there for a few scenes. Besides, most movie viewers are not going to be as discerning as modelers or even give a rip about different engine decks etc. to them it just looks like the same tank, end of story.

BTW, I've been looking more closely at this tank and it turns out it doesn't have M4A2 overhang after all. It has a fake overhang with a fake M4A2 style deflector. This tanks most likely retains the original continental engine deck because it is actually a 47 degree hull large hatch M4 HVSS. If I recall correctly, all large hatch M4 production became 105mm turret variants, whether they had VVSS or HVSS suspensions it doesn't matter.

So the mystery is over, this tank got a T-23 76mm turret at some point after the war. Or it's original turret might be in storage and this was a fake turret slapped on for the movie. Either way, it's a very late production M4 so the engine deck is correct for this type.
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Posted: Sunday, August 24, 2014 - 03:35 AM UTC

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Here is a link to the article ...
http://collider.com/fury-images-brad-pitt/



Funny ... The uniforms look as though they've been artistically enhanced by a figure painter!



I think the accuracy and attention to detail on the uniforms is going to be one of the biggest things this film will be remembered for. In the past WW2 films often relied on surplus stuff that wasn't typically appropriate for the campaign or theater shown in the film. These tankers are wearing proper tanker outfits and the colors and patterns are all based on very careful research.
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Posted: Sunday, August 24, 2014 - 07:20 PM UTC


Almost finished detail painting and weathering, I still need to paint the stowage on the rear which I have made up separate from the model, the wheels (which I have a quickwheels mask for and I need to assemble and paint the tracks. Next is a final clear flat coat and the pigment mud. Thoughts on the pic?

I'll be using Ammo pigments, using the resin acrylic from Mig to build up a considerable layer of mud all over the running gear and lower hull.

I'll add some gloss clear to make the mud on top look "fresh", and use darker colours for that. Il start by layering up with "dried" mud, then add darker fresher mud.
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Posted: Monday, August 25, 2014 - 01:33 AM UTC
Very interesting thread you got here.
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Posted: Monday, August 25, 2014 - 03:47 AM UTC

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Almost finished detail painting and weathering, I still need to paint the stowage on the rear which I have made up separate from the model, the wheels (which I have a quickwheels mask for and I need to assemble and paint the tracks. Next is a final clear flat coat and the pigment mud. Thoughts on the pic?

I'll be using Ammo pigments, using the resin acrylic from Mig to build up a considerable layer of mud all over the running gear and lower hull.

I'll add some gloss clear to make the mud on top look "fresh", and use darker colours for that. Il start by layering up with "dried" mud, then add darker fresher mud.



Nick,

It's looking really nice. I like the idea of having dry and fresh mud, that's going to really make it pop. Look forward to seeing all that caked up on the wheels and tracks. It looks a little dark, are you using the flash on your camera?
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Posted: Monday, August 25, 2014 - 03:49 AM UTC
Nick,

Meant to ask you about the markings, are those the ones that came in the kit?
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Posted: Monday, August 25, 2014 - 07:12 AM UTC

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Very interesting thread you got here.
J



Thanks Jerry , cheers for stopping by n checking it out!
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Posted: Monday, August 25, 2014 - 07:17 AM UTC

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Nick,

Meant to ask you about the markings, are those the ones that came in the kit?



Hey Pedro, yeah the photo was taken with no flash and very poor natural light at about 6pm in the evening. Overall the model is a bit darker than normal, as I'm going to try n portray the tank as if it's just rained driving through the mud/slush. The unit decals are from DML's cobra m4a1 which luckily and by chance I had in my spares box, and the number markings on the side are from DML's m7 priest mid production. They were all individual numbers, so it was easy to make the same number as seen in the Fury pics.
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Posted: Thursday, August 28, 2014 - 09:28 PM UTC
Tomorrow I begin painting all the wheels. I will be using Quickwheel's mask for Tasca's m4a3e8. The colour I'm going to use for the rubber is AK Interactive's "rubber tyres" ak720, and for the olive drab I will be using Tamiya olive drab. Photos will hopefully follow on completion if all goes well.
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Posted: Monday, September 01, 2014 - 04:14 PM UTC

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Tomorrow I begin painting all the wheels. I will be using Quickwheel's mask for Tasca's m4a3e8. The colour I'm going to use for the rubber is AK Interactive's "rubber tyres" ak720, and for the olive drab I will be using Tamiya olive drab. Photos will hopefully follow on completion if all goes well.



Nick,

I do have a question about your paint scheme. It seems to me from movie stills that the tank has black on OD camouflage. Are you going to add the black later on?
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Posted: Monday, September 01, 2014 - 04:19 PM UTC

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Tomorrow I begin painting all the wheels. I will be using Quickwheel's mask for Tasca's m4a3e8. The colour I'm going to use for the rubber is AK Interactive's "rubber tyres" ak720, and for the olive drab I will be using Tamiya olive drab. Photos will hopefully follow on completion if all goes well.



Nick,

I do have a question about your paint scheme. It seems to me from movie stills that the tank has black on OD camouflage. Are you going to add the black later on?



Hi Pedro, yeah I've seen that in the images online but no I'm not going to add it. I like the plain olive drab finish. How's your build going?
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Posted: Wednesday, September 03, 2014 - 02:13 AM UTC
Nick,

She looks nice like that already. Have you started the crew yet? Which tracks did you end up going with?
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Posted: Wednesday, September 03, 2014 - 02:45 AM UTC
Nick,

Wanted to give you a heads up if you ever end up building another Tasca kit with the tracks where you have to attach the faces of the track blocks onto the thin rubber band length (t-80&t-84).

USE CA! I went to handle the first length when about ten track blocks went flying around the room. I managed to find all of them, but soon learned that cement doesn't work on these tracks. I was able to remove the blocks easily by just bending the track. Even the rubber band joints came apart! It was faster to redo my previous work as all the blocks were already cleaned up but still taking forever and a lot of care must be taken only to use very small amounts of CA.
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Posted: Wednesday, September 03, 2014 - 11:18 AM UTC

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Nick,

She looks nice like that already. Have you started the crew yet? Which tracks did you end up going with?



Yeah I prefer the olive drab rather than the field applied camo. Interesting about the tracks, I would have thought the normal plastic cement would be fine, il keep that in mine next time.

I'm sticking with the T-66 tracks that came standard on the kit. I feel as though these would be accurate for the model, even though in the pics they're different from the set. I also like the steel tracks as I can rust n weather them a bit more than the rubber block type.

In regards to the crew I haven't started assembling them yet, I have bagged them in individual snap lock bags ready to go, but il try to get the tank fully finished first as this may vary a pose or two.

The most recent thing I have done is added the stg-44 to the turret and added the German helmet to the light guard. I have been to busy lately to sit down and do anything....unfortunately
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Posted: Wednesday, September 03, 2014 - 07:27 PM UTC
After having a little glitch with my airbrush, requiring me to get a new one, I have just painted the wheels using Quickwheel's mask for the Tasca wheels. Let me say, I will be using the Quickwheel's masks whenever I can. They are superb. After doing a coat of tire black all over the wheels n giving them adequate time to dry, it took me only 20-25 mins to paint all the road wheels and they came up a treat.

I have started the "mudding" process using ammo by mig pigments and diluted white glue. So far, and this is the first time I've ever used pigments I'm happy with the initial "dry" mud. I used Europe dust with the diluted white glue. Next for the "fresh" mud I will use dark earth and Russian earth mixed with clear varnish. The road wheels and tracks will only receive the "fresh" mud as I am portraying a wet spring scene.
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Posted: Friday, September 05, 2014 - 04:31 PM UTC


So I've mudded up my "Fury". The weathering stage is complete minus the tracks. I'm quite happy with the mud, first time I've used pigments. I added a small amount of static grass to the mixture to represent churned up grass.

I made the mixture glossy to show its fresh and in my diorama they will be driving through a muddy, wet paddock/track.

I have built one whole length of track, one to go. Shouldn't take too long to finish the other one, just 77 links to go lol....(hopefully )

Please provide some feedback if you could, keen to hear your thoughts.
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Posted: Friday, September 05, 2014 - 06:55 PM UTC
So after getting stuck in and starting the next track length, I've made both lengths. They will be painted this weekend and hopefully weathered/ muddied up tomorrow.
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Posted: Friday, September 05, 2014 - 08:22 PM UTC
Nice job! Just need to add some figures...
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Posted: Friday, September 05, 2014 - 09:58 PM UTC

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Nice job! Just need to add some figures...



Hi Vladimir, thanks for the comment. Yeah figures are definitely in the pipeline, soon to be started. I think I will make a start on the scenery next and leave the figures till last.
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Posted: Friday, September 05, 2014 - 10:10 PM UTC
Nick, I suppose all 5 figures will be available at October.
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Posted: Friday, September 05, 2014 - 10:17 PM UTC

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Nick, I suppose all 5 figures will be available at October.



Vladimir they look fantastic. The natural poses look just like the image they're from. I was planning on posing my diorama with the tank in motion, driver and gunner in there hatches, but I may have to reconsider.
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Posted: Saturday, September 06, 2014 - 11:36 AM UTC
Well itnlooks great
anothernthing to makemit much more interesting is some streaking effects and some chipping with a sponge and black brown paint
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Posted: Saturday, September 06, 2014 - 12:21 PM UTC

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Well itnlooks great
anothernthing to makemit much more interesting is some streaking effects and some chipping with a sponge and black brown paint



Hi Hunter, I've added some fuel streaks around the fuel filler caps and scratches around commonly used areas such as hatches and the rear deck, but to be honest I don't think photos do any model justice as they don't pick up all the intricate details. Thanks for the feedback