Official: Flak You Two: The Flak is Back!
Namabiiru
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#399
Rhode Island, United States
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Posted: Thursday, March 19, 2015 - 03:35 AM UTC
Alright! The next flak campaign is now official with a 1 July start date. Enlist
here.
We're changing things up a bit in this Flakking campaign by allowing air defense ships (like Aegis) and SEAD/DEAD aircraft (like Wild Weasels) to join. I'm also going to allow fantasy anti-air (Warhammer-ish).
Looking forward to another great campaign!
New York, United States
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Posted: Thursday, March 19, 2015 - 06:30 AM UTC
I fell way behind with my campaigns and never even started my build for the last one
Hopefully I will make in this one
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#041
Kobenhavn, Denmark
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Posted: Thursday, March 19, 2015 - 06:50 PM UTC
I am thinking some real heavy flak is in order. Is this
12,8cm flakvierling OK?
It is in roughly 1/48 scale and from the Dust Tactics universe.
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Vietnam
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Posted: Thursday, March 19, 2015 - 08:02 PM UTC
I like this.
I still have some A-A model kits to complete, coldwar and modern. I will enlist.
Thanks for launch.
Regards,
K.
Hessen, Germany
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Posted: Thursday, March 19, 2015 - 08:18 PM UTC
Would some infrantry holding/ carrying Fliegerfausts be in OK?
Bayern, Germany
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Posted: Friday, March 20, 2015 - 12:21 AM UTC
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I am thinking some real heavy flak is in order. Is this 12,8cm flakvierling OK?
It is in roughly 1/48 scale and from the Dust Tactics universe.
Woow! Very cool! Are these assembled, ready for painting?
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#041
Kobenhavn, Denmark
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Posted: Friday, March 20, 2015 - 01:26 AM UTC
Chriatian, they are partly assembled and can be put together without glue. However, I always break them apart to clean the parts up for flash and reassemble them. A matter of taste I guess.
If it is allowed I will make sure to make updates in this tread often.
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England - South East, United Kingdom
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Posted: Friday, March 20, 2015 - 03:55 AM UTC
I am in, 1/350th type 45 destroyer (Daring class), the Royal Navy's new(ish) ship, and maybe if I have time a bit of Sci Fi Fun
Si
Namabiiru
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Posted: Friday, March 20, 2015 - 05:55 PM UTC
Wow! Such exciting ideas! This is already taking off better than I had hoped!
@Jesper: Very cool and very OK!
@Nicolas: I would love to see something with boots instead of wheels. Bring it on!
@RedDuster: I wasn't sure if we could actually entice a shipbuilder into this campaign, so I'm ecstatic that you broke the ice. I hope more will follow!
#041
Kobenhavn, Denmark
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Posted: Friday, March 20, 2015 - 06:16 PM UTC
Excellent, Mark. Planing is underway already!
More to follow
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Queensland, Australia
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Posted: Friday, March 20, 2015 - 06:34 PM UTC
might have to try one of my stash for this
i also have the kits to make one of these
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Louisiana, United States
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Posted: Friday, March 20, 2015 - 09:27 PM UTC
Wow! That last thing looks like a real modern version... of an old German WWII cargo halftrack or truck carrying an opportunistically- added FlaK gun, or just like any of several WWII contraptions where a gun was added a-top any chassis which still rolled!
Completely retro! The gun crew gets to ride around fully-exposed to whatever the weather and the enemy care to provide!
Even those Germans tried to shelter the gun crew a little with shields and open-top turrets!
So, is that thing "production" or a unit mod or what? My guess is it's a one-off crew mod, given those rusty-looking "cans" the gun-mount feet appear to stand on (or in).
It does look cool, however it came to be!
Bob
South Carolina, United States
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Posted: Friday, March 20, 2015 - 10:00 PM UTC
I'm in. I'll probably go with something along the what-if-ish line of thinking.
Maybe a for export M551 based missile/cannon AAA system. I'd probably kitbash a couple of mostly done kits (Sheridan, Weisel-Ozelot, and Duster) for that if that's allowed.
Maybe a German "wonder" particle beam weapon mounted on a tank with some sort of APU.
Bayern, Germany
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Posted: Friday, March 20, 2015 - 10:08 PM UTC
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Maybe a German "wonder" particle beam weapon mounted on a tank with some sort of APU.
Panzerkampfwagen "Maus" with Todesstrahlengeschütz?
CAD Images mean nothing.
What does a rivet counter count on a cast or welded tank hull?
Nova Scotia, Canada
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Posted: Saturday, March 21, 2015 - 03:10 AM UTC
If I can get my hands on a kit. Then I will be game.
1:35 Dragon Flak 38(t) Ausf. M Late Production #6590 is what I have in mind.
Hopefully I can find one in the trading section. It looks like a fun kit to build after reading the last Flak Campaign.
Cheers,
Tom
South Carolina, United States
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Posted: Saturday, March 21, 2015 - 03:41 AM UTC
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Maybe a German "wonder" particle beam weapon mounted on a tank with some sort of APU.
Panzerkampfwagen "Maus" with Todesstrahlengeschütz?
Or maybe even go with a Soviet design.
I'll probably go with the German design. I'll probably use an old partial Italeri Tiger (P) or Ferdinand chassis to mount it on. The actual particle weapon would use a 1/48 engine from a F86 Sabre. Maybe use a Panzer IV as a self-propelled APU to increase rate of fire.
Louisiana, United States
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Posted: Saturday, March 21, 2015 - 04:00 AM UTC
Tom D.;
You might also check the eBay... these show up frequently and for sometimes very low prices... Also, this kit pops up on Dragonusaonline.com from time to time during their many smaller-sized sales. Strange to say, seems more common to see this one than the original Dragon "Gepard" kit at lowered prices - although the "late" kit has the correct sprockets and idlers and correct gun-barrel and the later features on that gun! It's a great kit, IMHO, and I might actually do it HERE! (It's that, or maybe an SdKfz 10/x flak-track...
).
Cheers!
Bob
Namabiiru
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Posted: Saturday, March 21, 2015 - 10:47 AM UTC
Alex,
I'm not a big fan of the what-ifs for this sort of campaign, but since I've opened the doors to the warhammer crowd it would not be fair for me to say 'no' to what-if's. I do think that using already completed builds to create a frankentank is skirting close to the rule on not starting the build prior to the campaign start date, but in the interest of inclusiveness I'll give you a hall pass on that if the rest of the group are okay with it.
Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Saturday, March 21, 2015 - 07:10 PM UTC
Mark - I'm glad to see you support WH and What-if for this. Its all still modelling afterall.
Enlisted!
Why plan when you can react?
England - South East, United Kingdom
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Posted: Sunday, March 22, 2015 - 12:55 AM UTC
Thanks Mark,
Glad to be along, some great prospective builds.
Si
South Carolina, United States
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Posted: Monday, March 23, 2015 - 09:40 AM UTC
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Alex,
I'm not a big fan of the what-ifs for this sort of campaign, but since I've opened the doors to the warhammer crowd it would not be fair for me to say 'no' to what-if's. I do think that using already completed builds to create a frankentank is skirting close to the rule on not starting the build prior to the campaign start date, but in the interest of inclusiveness I'll give you a hall pass on that if the rest of the group are okay with it.
I completely understand your concerns. My thoughts on partial builds has always been that they often require more work disassembling and reassembling than a new kit.
This is what I'd be starting with.
Academy Saber engine. I'd dress it up a bit and make it look like a death ray.
Italeri Tiger P hull. Not painted and the turret has been long gone.
Or the Italeri Ferdinand. This was one of the first armor kits I ever built.
Let me know what you think. If you have any reservations about this idea just say so. It's not going to hurt my feelings. I'll try to pick something else up later on. The funny thing is that I'm actually building a SA-9 Gaskin for the $20 Campaign.
Namabiiru
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Posted: Monday, March 23, 2015 - 10:15 AM UTC
All good, Alex. Just make it look nice and flakky.
Sadly funny about the SA-9. Timing seems to be everything with these campaigns. The Flakpanzer I did for the first flak campaign would have worked for three different campaigns I had going on at the same time, and the Hummel I did for the PzIV campaign would have covered another three. Alas, the campaign gods won't allow us off that easily.
South Carolina, United States
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Posted: Tuesday, March 24, 2015 - 09:56 AM UTC
Mark,
Just to be safe I might do something else instead. I've got a Meng Hilux with a ZPU-1 and a couple of Academy Humvees. I was thinking of maybe mounting the heavy MG on one of them....maybe as an ISIS or Kurdish vehicle. I have no interest in building the truck with the gun so it's not an issue. I'll have to dig those out and see what I have to work with and how they might build up. Maybe mount it on the back of a cargo Humvee.
Queensland, Australia
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Posted: Tuesday, March 24, 2015 - 03:56 PM UTC
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So, is that thing "production" or a unit mod or what? My guess is it's a one-off crew mod, given those rusty-looking "cans" the gun-mount feet appear to stand on (or in).
It does look cool, however it came to be!
Bob
the 'thing' is a BTR-ZD, its an adaptation of the BTR-D airborne personnel carrier. its based on the BMD-1 airborne carrier butis 60mm longer (extra wheel) and has the main turret removed
there's at least 300 odd units in service with the russian armed forces and i dont think the Zu-23-2 addition is a one off. a think the rusty looking cans are sawn up logs as well
and yes..... bloody cold
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Louisiana, United States
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Posted: Tuesday, March 24, 2015 - 06:41 PM UTC
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So, is that thing "production" or a unit mod or what? My guess is it's a one-off crew mod, given those rusty-looking "cans" the gun-mount feet appear to stand on (or in).
It does look cool, however it came to be!
Bob
the 'thing' is a BTR-ZD, its an adaptation of the BTR-D airborne personnel carrier. its based on the BMD-1 airborne carrier butis 60mm longer (extra wheel) and has the main turret removed
there's at least 300 odd units in service with the russian armed forces and i dont think the Zu-23-2 addition is a one off. a think the rusty looking cans are sawn up logs as well
and yes..... bloody cold
Colin;
So... A little clarification? I recognize the lengthened BTR-ZD as a production vehicle, and certainly the twin-mount ZU-23-2 as a production item... but are you saying that there are perhaps 300 of these composite things in actual service, where I am thinking of the composite as being that gun clearly tied on top of the vehicle - with, as you said, sections of sawn logs used as props under the gun-feet? A tied-on gun propped up on logs a-top a personnel carrier may well be effective, but certainly doesn't come across as any sort of production item!
So maybe this has turned out to be a rather popular field conversion using some widely-available vehicles and guns?
And I do expect it to be a cold job to be the gunner up on top!
Cheers!
PS: Where was this picture taken? Anyone know what specific conflict / theater this thing was used in? Any specific unit(s) associated with this conversion?
Bob
