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A bit of an over-reaction?
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Posted: Saturday, July 23, 2016 - 12:11 AM UTC

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well if nothing else i think these comments about decal isis flag proves that to much caffeine in the morning is rally bad for your health both physically and mentally in this case.

more tea anyone?



This... But... Caffeine.... I don't see the correlation between having too much caffeine in the morning and posting comments such as these...



Low tolerance to, and/or overingestion of, stimulants like caffeine equals getting wired out and irrational.
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Posted: Saturday, July 23, 2016 - 12:54 AM UTC
Isn't the over-reaction the response to this post. Are insults and name calling reasonable reactions? The man is entitled to his opinion and none of us can know what may have contributed to his reaction. Can't we keep the conversation civil? Many of you protested that this is a hobby, yet this thread is not about the hobby. It doesn't take much creativity to pile on and ridicule somebody. I am sure I will now be labeled "idiot" and "zealot" but I prefer that to "BULLY".
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Posted: Saturday, July 23, 2016 - 02:35 AM UTC
Literally this. This topic is ridiculous. Why even bring it up on this forum?
Headhunter506
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Posted: Saturday, July 23, 2016 - 02:49 AM UTC
Since I'm the original poster of this thread, I know what the topic is and why I decided to bring it up on this forum. Why don't you explain what you believe is the topic? If you're correct, you win nothing.
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Posted: Saturday, July 23, 2016 - 05:23 AM UTC
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Posted: Saturday, July 23, 2016 - 06:23 AM UTC
I ordered my set of the flag decals. Odd thing was the PayPal delay for review?!? Now approved and in the mail, but I probably made another list somewhere. Oh well.
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Posted: Saturday, July 23, 2016 - 07:11 AM UTC
someone in our model club was building a model from a picture they saw in the news of an isis towed gun that had been captured. a guy muttered that he would smash it.
The guy that muttered about smashing the isis model builds almost exclusively nazi airplanes. some people will always be children.
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Posted: Saturday, July 23, 2016 - 07:58 AM UTC

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someone in our model club was building a model from a picture they saw in the news of an isis towed gun that had been captured. a guy muttered that he would smash it.
The guy that muttered about smashing the isis model builds almost exclusively nazi airplanes. some people will always be children.



That's called a lack of self awareness.
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Posted: Saturday, July 23, 2016 - 08:35 AM UTC
What scale are those "flags"? Are they 1/35, 1/24, 1/25, 1/72? If they were 1/1 than his reaction would be understandable.
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Posted: Saturday, July 23, 2016 - 10:35 AM UTC

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What scale are those "flags"? Are they 1/35, 1/24, 1/25, 1/72? If they were 1/1 than his reaction would be understandable.



Exactly, good point mate
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Posted: Saturday, July 23, 2016 - 11:07 AM UTC

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What scale are those "flags"? Are they 1/35, 1/24, 1/25, 1/72? If they were 1/1 than his reaction would be understandable.



Archer's website says they are printed in 6 differant sizes to represent either differant scales or differant sized flags in a single scale.
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Posted: Saturday, July 23, 2016 - 02:48 PM UTC

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I ordered my set of the flag decals. Odd thing was the PayPal delay for review?!? Now approved and in the mail, but I probably made another list somewhere. Oh well.



Yeah mate, who knows what sort of a list Archer's customers are now being put on, and by whom
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Posted: Saturday, July 23, 2016 - 08:55 PM UTC
Same experience here... You wonder where all this info is stockpiled, and who it goes to?
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Posted: Saturday, July 23, 2016 - 09:03 PM UTC
Reminds me of the song Alice's Restaurant by Arlo Guthrie.

"And friends, somewhere in Washington is a black & white study of my fingerprints..."

Or, the point in the movie Clue when the phone rings, and somebody asks "Why is J Edgar Hoover on your phone?" To which the cynical answer comes back "Well, he's on everyone else's phone..."

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Posted: Saturday, July 23, 2016 - 09:39 PM UTC
I wonder if the protester agrees with Europe banning the use of swastika decals for WWII German aircraft?

A friend once bought me a tee shirt called "Tank Busters" with a Ju 87G, an Hs 129, and a T-34; a coworker made a comment along the lines that I was glorifying a murderous tyrannical regime; I answered, "Which one? The one that slaughtered millions of dissidents and sent millions more to concentration camps, or the Nazis?"

My dad's ship was sunk by the Japanese in 1942. He never tried to discourage me from modeling subjects of Imperial Japan. Nor has anybody accused me of advocating for slavery because I painted figures of Robert E. Lee; nor accused me of supporting native American genocide because I painted U.S. Grant.

We are modelers who make miniatures of subjects that interest us, and that interest does not mean we support the ideology behind it. I pity the primordial mouth-breathers (including some intellectuals with PhDs in some ivory league schools and inside The Beltway) who can not understand that my model Tiger does not endorse National Socialism any more than my Zero endorses Imperial Japan, or my T-34 does not mean I admire Stalin, or my MiG-23 means I support gulags, blah blah blah... .

Ah, back to my Klingon Bird of Prey - or does that make me an interstellar warmonger?
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Posted: Saturday, July 23, 2016 - 09:40 PM UTC

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Same experience here... You wonder where all this info is stockpiled, and who it goes to?



The National Security Agency. And millions of bits of information are sorted by 20 guys in stuffy cubicles.

"Look ISIS flag stickers!"
"they're for scale models."
"add that to the 'model kit file' "
"Yeah but you remember how the thing with all the Nazi flags ended up."
"Airplanes and model glue"
"Okay, file under 'Geeky obsessions' right next to the anime fans who are all child pornographers"
"2D, 3D otaku, I still have nightmares about that."

And so the camera slowly pans out of these little cubicles as another potential disaster is avoided by the folks working for you in the NSA.
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Posted: Saturday, July 23, 2016 - 09:45 PM UTC
I happen to have another Archer decal sheet with markings for a vehicle in the service of the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine, a group my country regards as a terrorist organization. Eventually these will probably end up on one of my T-34s.

Depicting a historically accurate vehicle, figure, ship or plane in the service of an odious cause isn't the same thing as celebrating or glorifying that cause.
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Posted: Saturday, July 23, 2016 - 11:20 PM UTC

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Ah, back to my Klingon Bird of Prey - or does that make me an interstellar warmonger?



No, but I bet you still like Gaack!

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Posted: Sunday, July 24, 2016 - 12:41 AM UTC

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No, but I bet you still like Gaack!



It, too, best served cold.
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Posted: Sunday, July 24, 2016 - 12:55 AM UTC
The offend you ?? Don't buy them !! problem solved !!
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Posted: Sunday, July 24, 2016 - 01:03 AM UTC
Back in 1980 I was talking WWII stuff with an older student between classes. He was 9 or 10 when the British broadcast a translation of Churchill's famous "we will meet them on the beaches" speech. At the end all the villagers were laughing. He was from India.

I always thought the Klingon ships were way cooler than the Federation stuff.
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Posted: Sunday, July 24, 2016 - 02:15 AM UTC
Much anger in this young paddawan I feel....
Sorry, just couldn't recist.
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Posted: Sunday, July 24, 2016 - 02:57 AM UTC
You know, this made me think about something: All the guys who build German WWII but leave off the swastikas because they don't want to honor the emblem or whatever, what does that really do? It doesn't make the fact that the armor or aircraft you was BUILT AND USED by the Nazis go away, and that people are going to know, "Oh, that 109 you showed me was used by NAZIS or that Tiger tank you made was built by NAZIS," They won't be fooled just because you left off a small cross on the rudder, so what are you really trying to accomplish? I am curious.

So, if I made a Civil War diorama, should I show my disdain for slavery by having the Rebels charge the battlefield flying a Braves pennant?
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Posted: Sunday, July 24, 2016 - 04:32 AM UTC
@brezkinaprez, the people who model WW2 German stuff without swastikas reside in Germany or France where that emblem is outlawed. I've never seen a American modeler who omitted a swastika from a Luftwaffe subject. Ever
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Posted: Sunday, July 24, 2016 - 05:02 AM UTC
I didn't know the social justice warriors were also modelers.

Let the guy rant. I know modelers who act like some model car kits are made from baby parts because they have particular defects like a poorly represented grill or the side trim is too high!

i try to tell them that "it's a hobby, not brain surgery!"