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Resin part of the Keroman uboot bunker
maartenboersma
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Posted: Thursday, November 23, 2017 - 03:27 AM UTC
1/35 scale.

Made from Resin and insulation board,And not finished yet.



All parts are not glued together

Thanks for watching.
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Posted: Thursday, November 23, 2017 - 07:12 PM UTC
Yep !! That is brilliant work right there.
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Posted: Thursday, November 23, 2017 - 09:24 PM UTC
AWESOME work. I can't wait to see the finished product.
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Posted: Friday, November 24, 2017 - 01:33 AM UTC
Hello Maarten, what an great start on the build.
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Posted: Friday, November 24, 2017 - 02:03 AM UTC
Jerry,Jeff and ronnie

Thanks for watching and comments.

Maarten
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Posted: Friday, November 24, 2017 - 03:01 PM UTC
Huge! & hugely fascinating – will there be a boot? Painting/weathering all that concrete will be quite a challenge, I’ll be interested to see how you tackle it
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Posted: Friday, November 24, 2017 - 04:55 PM UTC
Fantastic work Maarten.

A lot of time and effort, going to be a winner.
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maartenboersma
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Posted: Friday, November 24, 2017 - 05:04 PM UTC
Tim and Jeff ......Thanks.
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Posted: Friday, November 24, 2017 - 05:08 PM UTC

Quoted Text

Huge! & hugely fascinating – will there be a boot? Painting/weathering all that concrete will be quite a challenge, I’ll be interested to see how you tackle it


No u boot ,
Painting wont be a problem it is not my first bunker.

The only problem i have is ....
The bunker was painted in camouflage colors,but i do not know wich colors the Germans used .
Hard to tell from black and white pictures
So it might be just concrete color and weathered.


Maarten
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Posted: Friday, November 24, 2017 - 05:54 PM UTC

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The only problem i have is ....
The bunker was painted in camouflage colors,but i do not know wich colors the Germans used .


I believe green should be plausible...Check out the "then and now" pics of Keroman bunkers here:

http://www.materielsterrestres39-45.fr/fr/index.php/tout-guerre-terrestre/266-france-guerre-terrestre/les-bases-navales/lorient

H.P.
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Posted: Friday, November 24, 2017 - 06:03 PM UTC

Quoted Text


Quoted Text

The only problem i have is ....
The bunker was painted in camouflage colors,but i do not know wich colors the Germans used .


I believe green should be plausible...Check out the "then and now" pics of Keroman bunkers here:

http://www.materielsterrestres39-45.fr/fr/index.php/tout-guerre-terrestre/266-france-guerre-terrestre/les-bases-navales/lorient

H.P.

Merci beaucoup pour votre réponse
Maarten
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Posted: Friday, November 24, 2017 - 06:34 PM UTC
I can see definitely blotches of camouflage paint,was the complete bunker painted in one overall color (oker/ yellow /) with patches of Green or other ? or patches over the bare concrete.

And what do you think about the darker upper parts wet because of rain ?


Any input on what you guys think on the Paint colors used
are appreciated.

Thanks
Maarten

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Posted: Friday, November 24, 2017 - 08:26 PM UTC
I would go with strips of green and black over the bare concrete. The paint has been aging for about 70 years and is very faded. I really doubt they would have painted the whole thing ocher.
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Posted: Saturday, November 25, 2017 - 01:59 AM UTC
In fact, it looks like the faded color patches we can see in contemporary pics are the remains of camo nets, not painted concrete...Just check out this view :

https://www.flickr.com/photos/nigelphoto2011/9381135921/sizes/o/

You can notice the torn net in the left background...

H.P.
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maartenboersma
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Posted: Saturday, November 25, 2017 - 02:32 AM UTC

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I would go with strips of green and black over the bare concrete. The paint has been aging for about 70 years and is very faded. I really doubt they would have painted the whole thing ocher.
J


I think the same (now) that the colors patches and stripes were painted on the bare concrete.
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Posted: Saturday, November 25, 2017 - 02:34 AM UTC

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In fact, it looks like the faded color patches we can see in contemporary pics are the remains of camo nets, not painted concrete...Just check out this view :

You can notice the torn net in the left background...

H.P.


Yes i know of the nets there there to protect the public from small pieces of concrete falling off .....so the tour guide told.

But the bunker was definitely camouflaged with paint at some point in the war..
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Posted: Saturday, November 25, 2017 - 05:45 AM UTC
Very interesting research – I’m no expert so can only offer a couple of amateur observations. One is that the most or all of the ochre stains are likely to be the corroded rebar leeching out rust.

The other involves imagining how would you try disguising this massive structure from aerial and/or naval attack? Either way common sense suggests giant “dazzle”-camo shapes breaking up the actual outlines with contrasting shadow-coloured areas (as used spectacularly on WW1 & some WW2 warships including the Bismark) but there doesn’t seem to be any sign of that. I’m not sure how the relatively small abstract patterns in the Keroman II pictures would fool any bomb-/gun-aimer...quite the opposite...so perhaps it’s hard-edged evidence that the Todt Camouflage Dept had already been infiltrated by the Resistance
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Posted: Saturday, November 25, 2017 - 10:29 PM UTC
Amazing work; I looking forward to seeing the finished product. excellent. Ayhan Dal
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Posted: Sunday, November 26, 2017 - 01:00 AM UTC
Tim and Ayhan
Thanks.
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Posted: Sunday, November 26, 2017 - 03:21 PM UTC
That, my friends, is damn impressive. Excellent work.


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Posted: Sunday, November 26, 2017 - 06:21 PM UTC
Well thank you jim.
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Posted: Monday, November 27, 2017 - 05:13 AM UTC
Not U boat pens but bunkers and gun emplacements, however you might want to look at this:

http://www.bunkerart.nl/camouflagepaint_outside.htm
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Posted: Monday, November 27, 2017 - 04:52 PM UTC

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Not U boat pens but bunkers and gun emplacements, however you might want to look at this:

http://www.bunkerart.nl/camouflagepaint_outside.htm


Thanks for your intrest in my question,
I posted the very same link in the German concrete gun emplacement questions topic yesterday.
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