Pennsylvania, United States
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Posted: Monday, July 15, 2019 - 03:40 AM UTC
Old Army slang can be fun.
"Wearing our brain buckets on the two way rifle range".
J
Colorado, United States
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Posted: Monday, July 15, 2019 - 04:17 AM UTC
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... "two way rifle range".
That’s a new one on me!🤣 I learn a little something from every post.📚
Keep up the great work. 🛠
Cheers!🍺
—mike
Pennsylvania, United States
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Posted: Monday, July 15, 2019 - 04:32 AM UTC
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... "two way rifle range".
That’s a new one on me!🤣 I learn a little something from every post.📚
Keep up the great work. 🛠
Cheers!🍺
—mike
Thanks buddy!
J
Pennsylvania, United States
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Posted: Monday, July 15, 2019 - 07:38 AM UTC
Finished up the webbing on the relaxed guy
I found out from Ron Volstad the sten mags would not fit in the ammo pouches. You couldn't quite close the top flap. So I changed out pouches with a new one I made. It looks bigger than the other one but it measures out the same. Must be the lens.
Here are the 2 new pouches I made. One for the sten and one with 2 bren mags on top of grenades underneath.
Pennsylvania, United States
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Posted: Tuesday, July 16, 2019 - 01:27 AM UTC
couple of happy snaps to show the bren pouches painted up.
England - South West, United Kingdom
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Posted: Tuesday, July 16, 2019 - 04:19 AM UTC
Nothing changes; fast forward to the early 70s - my 58 pat webbing pouches would always eject my SMG (Sub Machine Gun - Sterling)magazines with alacrity. Magazines for the SLR - fine - but most HQ personnel were issued with the SMG so whenever we moved (quite often) there would always be the accompanying rattle of dropped/escaped magazines (and no small number of Anglo Saxon epithets).
Pennsylvania, United States
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Posted: Tuesday, July 16, 2019 - 05:24 AM UTC
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Nothing changes; fast forward to the early 70s - my 58 pat webbing pouches would always eject my SMG (Sub Machine Gun - Sterling)magazines with alacrity. Magazines for the SLR - fine - but most HQ personnel were issued with the SMG so whenever we moved (quite often) there would always be the accompanying rattle of dropped/escaped magazines (and no small number of Anglo Saxon epithets).
Strange how the webbing never caught up with the mags. The larger pouches for the sten came around in 1945 and were not issued to many.
J
England - North West, United Kingdom
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Posted: Tuesday, July 16, 2019 - 08:33 PM UTC
I must start paying more attention to webbing/equipment - you really do make it feel real.
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Posted: Wednesday, July 17, 2019 - 03:10 AM UTC
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I must start paying more attention to webbing/equipment - you really do make it feel real.
Thanks Paul!
Years ago my buddy Mike Roof awakened me to applying the same attention to detail that us Jumpmasters employ when doing pre-jump checks.
In this case,carefully cleaning up the parts before gluing,which is something I avoided before that.
J
England - North East, United Kingdom
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Posted: Wednesday, July 17, 2019 - 11:42 PM UTC
Hello Mr Rutman I am a long time Lurker with a deep interest in the battle of Normandy mainly as part of board wargaming.With regards to your discussions around Sten gun
magazine holders I came across this yesterday. 'Night Patrol to Barbee farm'.25.06.1944.on the WW2 Peoples War web site. , author Pat Strafford.He was part of a group of men tasked with capturing a prisoner for intelligence. The group were all issued with sten guns and webbing with pouches suitable for Sten gun magazines , thus pre-dating the 1945 issue suggested. I hope this doesn't muddy the waters too much. Oh and I really enjoy your builds.
Pennsylvania, United States
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Posted: Thursday, July 18, 2019 - 01:22 AM UTC
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Hello Mr Rutman I am a long time Lurker with a deep interest in the battle of Normandy mainly as part of board wargaming.With regards to your discussions around Sten gun
magazine holders I came across this yesterday. 'Night Patrol to Barbee farm'.25.06.1944.on the WW2 Peoples War web site. , author Pat Strafford.He was part of a group of men tasked with capturing a prisoner for intelligence. The group were all issued with sten guns and webbing with pouches suitable for Sten gun magazines , thus pre-dating the 1945 issue suggested. I hope this doesn't muddy the waters too much. Oh and I really enjoy your builds.
No worries.
The pouches were available before the late war,just not a common item as of yet,according to my very very reliable source.
Thanks for the kind words and interest!
J
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Massachusetts, United States
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Posted: Thursday, July 18, 2019 - 02:13 AM UTC
Jerry, wasn't there also a utility pouch as well? Or am I AFU? For some reason I recall something about one, and the only source was the early Dragon Commonwealth infantry figures. Strong work on the pouches you've done, my Brother. Jumpmaster's eye for detail as always!
Doc Ski
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Pennsylvania, United States
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Posted: Thursday, July 18, 2019 - 04:08 AM UTC
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Jerry, wasn't there also a utility pouch as well? Or am I AFU? For some reason I recall something about one, and the only source was the early Dragon Commonwealth infantry figures. Strong work on the pouches you've done, my Brother. Jumpmaster's eye for detail as always!
Maybe there was. I don't recall. I do however have a great drawing showing the newer extended ammo pouch that accommodated the sten mags. The artist asked for privacy though so I can't post it.
He also includes in that drawing of all the webbing,a pouch that could be the one you mean.
Thanks brother! Airborne-ski
J
England - South East, United Kingdom
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Posted: Thursday, July 18, 2019 - 08:02 AM UTC
Jerry, I'm loving the look of these Tommies...
The open pouches are typical of your attention to detail.
However, I'm starting to wonder if your 'relaxed guy' should think about seeing a chiropractor. Do you think it's fair to put a pack on his back?
Pennsylvania, United States
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Posted: Thursday, July 18, 2019 - 08:19 AM UTC
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Jerry, I'm loving the look of these Tommies...
The open pouches are typical of your attention to detail.
However, I'm starting to wonder if your 'relaxed guy' should think about seeing a chiropractor. Do you think it's fair to put a pack on his back?
Thanks man,for the kind remarks.
Nope,no pack will be on any of these guys. I have put it to several vets from the British Army from the 50s that also knew a lot of the older chaps. They said that the battle order sometimes did not include the packs if they were around transport,etc. Since these guys were accompanying the head shed they definitely have transport near.
J
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Posted: Thursday, July 18, 2019 - 06:36 PM UTC
I can almost see the look of relief spreading over his plastic face!
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Posted: Friday, July 19, 2019 - 01:08 AM UTC
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I can almost see the look of relief spreading over his plastic face!
Yes well,as one of my Special Forces instructors used to say"There is no reason to practice suffering".
J
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California, United States
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Posted: Saturday, July 20, 2019 - 11:42 AM UTC
Hi Jerry,
A treat as always to scroll through your builds - clearly another great one on its way! And, yes, I still appreciate seeing all of your steps! Inspirational and informative! Hope you’re enjoying the summer -
Cheers
Nick
Pennsylvania, United States
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Posted: Thursday, July 25, 2019 - 01:20 AM UTC
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Hi Jerry,
A treat as always to scroll through your builds - clearly another great one on its way! And, yes, I still appreciate seeing all of your steps! Inspirational and informative! Hope you’re enjoying the summer -
Cheers
Nick
Thanks Nick ol buddy. It is always a treat for myself when you show up. I do not get tired of that!
I do always worry about being mundane. Nice to know you like to see the process.
J
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Posted: Thursday, August 01, 2019 - 02:49 AM UTC
The opening artillery barrage is devastating and leaves thousands of shell holes over the 12SS front lines and then creeps back,followed closely by the British tanks and Infantry. The teenage pioniers from 12SS Pionier Abteilung resist as much as possible but are very thin on the ground. Stubborn defensive positions are sometimes eliminated by running tanks over them.
Colorado, United States
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Posted: Thursday, August 01, 2019 - 10:46 AM UTC
Looking good! I love the running gear — realistically matched to irregular terrain. And that dugout ...
More, please!🍺
—mike
England - North West, United Kingdom
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Posted: Thursday, August 01, 2019 - 08:46 PM UTC
That last photo tells us everything. You are the master of A) webbing and B) storytelling. Thanks for keeping this site alive.
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Posted: Thursday, August 01, 2019 - 10:13 PM UTC
Very cool Jerry , beautiful work !!!
You ready to show the whole scene yet ?
Pennsylvania, United States
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Posted: Saturday, August 03, 2019 - 02:24 AM UTC
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Looking good! I love the running gear — realistically matched to irregular terrain. And that dugout ...
More, please!🍺
—mike
Thanks Mike,glad you liked it. The reason I put myself through the tedium of assembling that set of Fruils was just for the sake of showing a tank in that position. I always wanted to do that. I tried it decades ago before the metal tracks were available and it was just "OK". The Fruils made it much easier IMHO.
J
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Posted: Saturday, August 03, 2019 - 02:25 AM UTC
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That last photo tells us everything. You are the master of A) webbing and B) storytelling. Thanks for keeping this site alive.
Thanks Mate,very kind words,
J