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Time for ol' Yoda to ask a few... intelligent ( )....questions...

-Where did Operation Barbarossa take place?
-What was the general geograpic region like?
-What kind of camo, if any, was used on vehicles?

From the list Avukich provided, I see that the few German armor kits I own are not elgible. (that figures...) So I thought I'd just get Tamiya's sdkfz 250 or something...

YodaMan

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Very good questions young man. Operation Barbarossa was the Third Reich's code name for their invasion of the Soviet Union. It began 22 June 1941 and Hitler believed that Russia would fall before the notorious Russian winter began. So by going by the German planned time table, the operation would have run from 22 June to 21 December (when fall ends and winter begins on the calendar) 1941.

Camouflage would have begun as German gray and the normal Soviet armor green (varies like OD green). White wash would have been applied once snow started to fall, mud would have been smeared on early. I am unsure if the Germans started using any type of "standard" camouflage pattern this early.

The terrain would have been the eastern European plains. Very remote farmlands and some wooded areas.

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Sabot is probably right... The Germans learned to smear on mud pretty quickly, especially in the Southern sector, as their PanzerGrau tended to stand out . Sometimes they put it all over the vehicles, sometimes just in blotches or stripes...

As far as winter camouflage goes, almost everything white seems to do. Just as with the clothing, the Germans were ill prepared, and there simply was not enough camouflage... I have seen a pictures, in the Panzer Colors series, of a Panzer Grau Sd.Kfz. 10/4 with white (table)cloths and bedsheets draped over them, vehicles with snow packed on them as camouflage, vehicles with chalk lines, vehicles with white stripes [both vertical and diagonal, and in short irregular pattern, both narrow and wide], a mud raster pattern (though this one was from a tank in Libya), etc. etc. Many of those covered both in white and mud, seem to have had the vehicle number and (tactical) markings masked over, or roughly painted around them, so you get a fieldgrey square or rectangle or circle with the number or marking on it.

As stated in the book: The look of the camouflage pattern was largely dependent on both the available materials, and the artistic talents of the crew.

Here is a sight that will give you some help with the interior since so much of it is visible through the open turret: http://www.kithobbyist.com/AFVInteriors/222/222a.html.

Ok, I'm definitely in! I've decided on the following:

1/35 tam35051 SdKfz 222 Leichter Panzerspahwagen

Will be ordering the kit in a few days so should be here in plenty of time for the start build.

Geez is anyone NOT doing a 222? :-)

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Geez is anyone NOT doing a 222? :-)

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Not only I will build a 222 also a Panther Ib and place them together in a base with ground work.

I know you are tired of these, but would the SU-85 fit this period? I already have the kit, but it might not fit the period.

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Geez is anyone NOT doing a 222? :-)

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Not only I will build a 222 also a Panther Ib and place them together in a base with ground work.

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Hello Capt CSCH,
I may have missed something but isn't the Panther outside of the timeline for this build?

Cheers
Tankleader

So this starts June 22,2203 Correct