Very nice job on the foliage, Jer!
One leaf at a time... Patience and persistence has paid off! The natural cammo really makes the build stand out.
As always, I await the next update!
Happy modeling, my friend...
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SdAufKla
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Posted: Friday, October 24, 2014 - 08:57 AM UTC
ahandykindaguy
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Posted: Friday, October 24, 2014 - 01:36 PM UTC
As awesome as always Jerry! I need to purchase some laser cut oak leaves, or maybe elm, or poplar all in autumn colours. Or all of the above. Your work continues to inspire and elevate the standards of modelling. I'm Ok with the t, just not sure I will get there, especially when I look at your excellent figures!
Can't wait to see the next steps....
Keep keeping on my friend.
Dave
Can't wait to see the next steps....
Keep keeping on my friend.
Dave
jrutman
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Posted: Saturday, October 25, 2014 - 01:54 AM UTC
@Romain-Thanks as always to my "Ceremonial Commanding Officer"
@Paul- Still working on those branches so yes, there will be more in the end
@Kurt-thanks for staying with me brother
@Mike-Can't take the credit for one leaf at a time as they come in clusters of five. I do cut them up though and add a few singles here and there for variety. I wasn't this anal about modeling until I saw your stuff man!! LOL I have spent the last 25 years or so trying to catch you up!
@Dave- No worries at all about your figs bro,they are mighty fine. Mighty fine. Just like the rest of us,the more you do it the better you get.
My problem is I am so slow with building that there are large periods when I don't do figs and then I forget most of what I just learned! LOL
Thanks again everyone,you are the best!
J
@Paul- Still working on those branches so yes, there will be more in the end
@Kurt-thanks for staying with me brother
@Mike-Can't take the credit for one leaf at a time as they come in clusters of five. I do cut them up though and add a few singles here and there for variety. I wasn't this anal about modeling until I saw your stuff man!! LOL I have spent the last 25 years or so trying to catch you up!
@Dave- No worries at all about your figs bro,they are mighty fine. Mighty fine. Just like the rest of us,the more you do it the better you get.
My problem is I am so slow with building that there are large periods when I don't do figs and then I forget most of what I just learned! LOL
Thanks again everyone,you are the best!
J
yeahwiggie
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Posted: Saturday, October 25, 2014 - 07:13 AM UTC
OK.... Well... Here it goes...
I think the vehicle looked better without the leaves. I mean that it was more pleasing to the eye, esthetically speaking.
Don't get me wrong, I like the leaves a lot, just not on this vehicle. Too distracting from the rest.
Am I a heretic now?
And I am with you on the figures. Heck, this even goes for my modelling in general!
I think the vehicle looked better without the leaves. I mean that it was more pleasing to the eye, esthetically speaking.
Don't get me wrong, I like the leaves a lot, just not on this vehicle. Too distracting from the rest.
Am I a heretic now?
And I am with you on the figures. Heck, this even goes for my modelling in general!
jrutman
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Posted: Saturday, October 25, 2014 - 07:26 AM UTC
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OK.... Well... Here it goes...
I think the vehicle looked better without the leaves. I mean that it was more pleasing to the eye, esthetically speaking.
Don't get me wrong, I like the leaves a lot, just not on this vehicle. Too distracting from the rest.
Am I a heretic now?
And I am with you on the figures. Heck, this even goes for my modelling in general!
I agree with you and it is not heretical at all. The problem I have is to show a German vehicle in Normandy. It is just about mandatory to have natural cammo on it in order to be accurate. So....I am kind of stuck.
I have always been a bit different in my modeling approach. I am more interested in the story. Hopefully the end result when this whole dio is done will convey an army that is running but has nowhere to hide,compressed into a small space in full view of enemy tac air forces.
Hopefully this will make better sense when the whole piece is finished? If I haven't lost you by then.
J
cestus72
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Posted: Saturday, October 25, 2014 - 08:20 AM UTC
one more your beautiful work, one time did one article for my blog :-)
yeahwiggie
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Posted: Saturday, October 25, 2014 - 08:21 AM UTC
I too opt for historical correctness whenever possible, so your choice is quite understandable.
And don't worry, you will not get rid of me that easy. I like tour style way to much.
And don't worry, you will not get rid of me that easy. I like tour style way to much.
jrutman
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Posted: Saturday, October 25, 2014 - 10:02 AM UTC
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one more your beautiful work, one time did one article for my blog :-)
grazi mila amico
J
jrutman
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Posted: Saturday, October 25, 2014 - 10:09 AM UTC
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I too opt for historical correctness whenever possible, so your choice is quite understandable.
And don't worry, you will not get rid of me that easy. I like tour style way to much.
Mighty nice of you to say buddy! Here are some new layers for you then.
I got some good advice from the guys on the painting forum so I got some subtle mud splatters and dust on the bottom part of the body. The branches are not attached as of yet.
I added the back window clear part. I cut it down to show it rolled down. I know the back windows did not roll down all of the way but maybe I still have it too far down?
I also weathered the tires a bit and added a wire to the roof for foliage attachment.
I am happy with the windscreen but not the wipers. They look smaller in real life but here they look clunky.
Anyway,that is where I am at!!
J
SiStorey
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Posted: Saturday, October 25, 2014 - 10:18 AM UTC
Looking pretty dam good J. He fits in to the car absolutely spot on. Is he the only one to go in the car?
jrutman
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Posted: Saturday, October 25, 2014 - 10:29 AM UTC
Si,
There is another guy for the back seat and one hanging out the open door.
J
There is another guy for the back seat and one hanging out the open door.
J
ahandykindaguy
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Posted: Saturday, October 25, 2014 - 10:33 AM UTC
Love the overall look, but isn't the broken bits of windshield a wee outta scale? Looks too thick I think. Looks awesome though, really awesome, I think that you are spot on with the subtle weathered look.
Dave
Dave
ahandykindaguy
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Posted: Saturday, October 25, 2014 - 11:43 AM UTC
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Love the overall look, but isn't the broken bits of windshield a wee outta scale? Looks too thick I think. Looks awesome though, really awesome, I think that you are spot on with the subtle weathered look.
Dave
Sorry...should read " aren't "....not isn't.
jrutman
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Posted: Saturday, October 25, 2014 - 11:47 AM UTC
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Love the overall look, but isn't the broken bits of windshield a wee outta scale? Looks too thick I think. Looks awesome though, really awesome, I think that you are spot on with the subtle weathered look.
Dave
I also think the bits are a wee bit too large but haven't a clue what to use to get them smaller.
J
ahandykindaguy
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Posted: Saturday, October 25, 2014 - 11:54 AM UTC
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Quoted TextLove the overall look, but isn't the broken bits of windshield a wee outta scale? Looks too thick I think. Looks awesome though, really awesome, I think that you are spot on with the subtle weathered look.
Dave
I also think the bits are a wee bit too large but haven't a clue what to use to get them smaller.
J
What about the remnants from the actual windshield Jerry? I imagine you broke off the rest some how, could you not just score some more of the clear stock, and break it apart into splinters?
Dave
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Posted: Saturday, October 25, 2014 - 03:48 PM UTC
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I also think the bits are a wee bit too large but haven't a clue what to use to get them smaller.
Plastic packaging scraps have worked for me — thinner than clear kit glass. I always keep a stash of scraps nearby.
Progress is outstanding ... really digging' the Citroen! So many great stories within a story. And yet another free history lesson for me!
And oh yeah! ... That rolled-down window looks perfect!
—mike
callmehobbes
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Posted: Saturday, October 25, 2014 - 06:54 PM UTC
I think the windscreen looks great. Keep 'em coming.
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Posted: Saturday, October 25, 2014 - 11:07 PM UTC
Excellent work Jerry, always a pleasure to view your updates. Window screen looks great and the vehicle is coming along superbly. The foliage will be a nice touch when you get it attached and finished. Excellent addition to the build. I agree about the wipers, way too thick.
Cheers
Al
Cheers
Al
jrutman
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Posted: Sunday, October 26, 2014 - 01:31 AM UTC
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Quoted TextQuoted TextLove the overall look, but isn't the broken bits of windshield a wee outta scale? Looks too thick I think. Looks awesome though, really awesome, I think that you are spot on with the subtle weathered look.
Dave
I also think the bits are a wee bit too large but haven't a clue what to use to get them smaller.
J
What about the remnants from the actual windshield Jerry? I imagine you broke off the rest some how, could you not just score some more of the clear stock, and break it apart into splinters?
Dave
The problem here is that splinters won't work. I researched windscreens before I built this one and found that car builders started using safety glass in the 1930s. The side windows would be regular glass but not the windshield. I also have a nice clear pic of a car from the war and it shows shattered safety glass. I did my due diligence here,Hahaha.
Thanks for the suggestion though.
J
jrutman
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Posted: Sunday, October 26, 2014 - 01:37 AM UTC
Mike,Paul and Alan,
Thanks much for checking in and commenting buddies! I will definitely address the windshield wipers. Maybe strips of printers' aluminum would be better?
I didn't want to but a set of PE just for the wipers. Due to recent budget cutbacks that has been ruled out! LOL
As to the windscreen. The main hole was dremeled out and then the edges of the hole were nicked up with my trusty #11 blade. The remaining parts of the safety glass were scribed with the same blade. The bits of rubber gasket were made from rolled lead wire and the glass bits are rock salt. The blades I made from plastic and were a fail.
I may have to live with the glass bits as they give the impression even though they are out of scale.
J
Thanks much for checking in and commenting buddies! I will definitely address the windshield wipers. Maybe strips of printers' aluminum would be better?
I didn't want to but a set of PE just for the wipers. Due to recent budget cutbacks that has been ruled out! LOL
As to the windscreen. The main hole was dremeled out and then the edges of the hole were nicked up with my trusty #11 blade. The remaining parts of the safety glass were scribed with the same blade. The bits of rubber gasket were made from rolled lead wire and the glass bits are rock salt. The blades I made from plastic and were a fail.
I may have to live with the glass bits as they give the impression even though they are out of scale.
J
justsendit
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Posted: Sunday, October 26, 2014 - 01:58 AM UTC
Hey Jerry,
I've given up on PE wipers; they're just too flimsy and too thin — very difficult to paint. I've resorted to scratching my own out of leftover kit parts or Evergreen Styrene. A couple of slices with a sharp blade, some glue — done deal! Here's an old example.
—mike
I've given up on PE wipers; they're just too flimsy and too thin — very difficult to paint. I've resorted to scratching my own out of leftover kit parts or Evergreen Styrene. A couple of slices with a sharp blade, some glue — done deal! Here's an old example.
—mike
jrutman
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Posted: Sunday, October 26, 2014 - 02:05 AM UTC
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Hey Jerry,
I've given up on PE wipers — too flimsy and too thin — very difficult to paint. I've resorted to scratching my own out of leftover kit parts or Evergreen Styrene (here's an old example).
—mike
Yep,
Your wipers look good for sure. I have to go back to the drawing board on that part.
J
1stjaeger
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Posted: Sunday, October 26, 2014 - 08:47 AM UTC
Hi Jerry,
the windshield itself looks great!! Fantastic job!!!
The bits are too thick, no doubt!
What about a frame from a transparent parts set. They often have a flat part with the company name on it.
Should be easy enough to sand it to the ideal thickness....and cut it up!
Just an idea!
Cheers
Romain
ahandykindaguy
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Posted: Sunday, October 26, 2014 - 09:18 AM UTC
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Hi Jerry,
the windshield itself looks great!! Fantastic job!!!
The bits are too thick, no doubt!
What about a frame from a transparent parts set. They often have a flat part with the company name on it.
Should be easy enough to sand it to the ideal thickness....and cut it up!
Just an idea!
Cheers
Romain
That's kinda what I meant Jerry. Could you not use a thinner clear sheet and break it into fragments (perhaps a better choice of word than splinters), with a pair of smooth edged pliers to make small portions of shattered glass?
Stickframe
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Posted: Sunday, October 26, 2014 - 03:52 PM UTC
Hi Jerry -
The car is really shaping up! I like your subtle weathering - looks very convincing indeed!
As for the wipers, for various reasons I wind up scratch building them fairly often. As vehicles are different, so are the wipers. I've had pretty good luck salvaging from the junk box - either for old wipers, or odd parts that look like they could be wipers with some mods. If those options don't work, I've cut a profile of the wiper from evergreen stock - maybe .20 or .30 x .80. Notch a "convincing" profile into the evergreen then add/glue a short piece of .3 or .4 rod on the end that "plugs" into the car, then, glue a piece of .10 styrene sheet cut to resemble a wiper blade...you know, after rereading what I just wrote....blah blah, words, words, blah, blah....uh, yeah - I'm sure whatever you do will look right!
Cheers
Nick
The car is really shaping up! I like your subtle weathering - looks very convincing indeed!
As for the wipers, for various reasons I wind up scratch building them fairly often. As vehicles are different, so are the wipers. I've had pretty good luck salvaging from the junk box - either for old wipers, or odd parts that look like they could be wipers with some mods. If those options don't work, I've cut a profile of the wiper from evergreen stock - maybe .20 or .30 x .80. Notch a "convincing" profile into the evergreen then add/glue a short piece of .3 or .4 rod on the end that "plugs" into the car, then, glue a piece of .10 styrene sheet cut to resemble a wiper blade...you know, after rereading what I just wrote....blah blah, words, words, blah, blah....uh, yeah - I'm sure whatever you do will look right!
Cheers
Nick
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