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The Great War 11-11-11 (official thread)

edoardo

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Posted: Tuesday, April 10, 2012 - 09:46 AM UTC

Hi guys!
Still working on my Mk IV ( but nothing to show you yet)...
Tonight i started building an unditching beam, but i am wondering how it works and how it is chained to the rails on the tank.
I don'have any good pictures of it so it is difficult for me to guess, do you have some?
Also in the resin traks package i bought are some "grabs" which i understand are supposed to enhance the traks hold on the ground... Do you know which is the right spacing between them? I mean, one each two regular traks? One each three... .?

Thank you
Ciao
Edo

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geogeezer

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Posted: Tuesday, April 10, 2012 - 04:03 PM UTC

Hi Simon,
Coming along nicely. I had no idea those casemate guns were double-decked. After seeing your pictures, i looked at a lot of photos of the Monmouth class and found only one or two where I could actually make out the guns in the casemates. Great work,

Dick

Murdo

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Posted: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 - 06:40 AM UTC

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Hi folks,
Has anyone built the Emhar 18pdr? Any feedback on the kit?

Cheers

Al

Hi Al, I built this kit a few years ago and it is fairly basic. Here's a couple of pics of it.

captnenglish

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Posted: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 - 07:20 AM UTC

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Hi folks,
Has anyone built the Emhar 18pdr? Any feedback on the kit?

Cheers

Al

Hi Al, I built this kit a few years ago and it is fairly basic. Here's a couple of pics of it.

Basic? Unless my copy is missing part (and it was factory sealed when I bought it), there is allot scratchbulding to do.

AlanL

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Posted: Thursday, April 12, 2012 - 03:16 AM UTC

Thanks Matthew,

Is there an update set for it?

Cheers

Al

Murdo

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Posted: Saturday, April 14, 2012 - 11:58 AM UTC

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Hi folks,
Has anyone built the Emhar 18pdr? Any feedback on the kit?

Cheers

Al

Hi Al, I built this kit a few years ago and it is fairly basic. Here's a couple of pics of it.

Basic? Unless my copy is missing part (and it was factory sealed when I bought it), there is allot scratchbulding to do.

Which is why I said it was "Basic".

RedDuster

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Posted: Saturday, April 14, 2012 - 08:20 PM UTC

Looking forward to seen ing more of the Mk IV Edo, good luck with the 18Pdr Al, thanks for the kind words Dick.

More work on the Awning frame on the bridge wings and compass platform.

The last of the supports are up, and the delicate task of constructing the frame from copper wire has started.

Fitting the wire has been interesting to say the least, but got there in the end. I am not 100% sure the structure is totally correct, but the there were few clear pics, and it looks about right,

Now that needs painting, and then it is on with the searchlight platform & fore top.

Si

AlanL

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Posted: Saturday, April 14, 2012 - 10:09 PM UTC

Hi Si,

Nice work, and adding the mini crew makes it very much an active scene.

Hi Murdo,

Mixed you post with Matthews.

Two of the walking Tommies with a little more work

A few test placements:

Cheers

Al

RedDuster

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Posted: Sunday, April 15, 2012 - 08:19 PM UTC

Thanks Al, one of pet hates when it comes to ship models is the model set on a sea base, under way with no-one on the bridge, looks silly to me.

Like the progress on the Trench, the figures are looking good.

Si

RedDuster

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Posted: Monday, April 16, 2012 - 03:02 AM UTC

Forget my head if it wasn't screwed on!

Update on the weekend's progress, decided to crack on with the foremast.

The searchlight platform, that also forms a base for the fore topmast had to be scratchbuilt.

found some spare supports on an old etched fret. This was then painted & fitted and the awning frame painted.

Next on to the foretop, again a scratch-build, the shorter supports I found some spare, but the longer ones were cut from plastic strip, and lightening holes drilled.

The ratlines added (These came from the WEM Varyag fret I had used to detail up a couple Combrig Pre WW1 destroyers), and the control top test fitted, that needs painting, a rangefinder & some voicepipes & maybe a table & couple of figures adding.

Then boat rigging, before the topmasts.

Si

RedDuster

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Posted: Monday, April 16, 2012 - 03:05 AM UTC

Not having a good day,

here is the photo of the above, plus also main turrets painted & fitted along with all the casemate barrels painted.

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Posted: Monday, April 16, 2012 - 07:31 AM UTC

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Hi guys!
Still working on my Mk IV ( but nothing to show you yet)...
Tonight i started building an unditching beam, but i am wondering how it works and how it is chained to the rails on the tank.
I don'have any good pictures of it so it is difficult for me to guess, do you have some?
Also in the resin traks package i bought are some "grabs" which i understand are supposed to enhance the traks hold on the ground... Do you know which is the right spacing between them? I mean, one each two regular traks? One each three... .?

Thank you
Ciao
Edo

Edo, here's a pic of the beam in use: unditching beam And one of it "stowed" pic. It was simply chained to the tracks in use, and when not in use the chains were wrapped around the rails to tie the beam in place on the top. Later variants had fancy clutches so the crew did not need to get out under fire to attach it to the tracks when needed, but based on pictures it seems Mk IV crews often took the practical route of tying it onto the rear slope of the rails so they could reach it from the back door with minimum exposure...

As for the track spuds, I don't know how formal the rules were, but a spacing of about one every nine links looks about right. (pic)

Hope this helps!

Tom

Murdo

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Posted: Monday, April 16, 2012 - 08:17 AM UTC

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Edo, here's a pic of the beam in use: unditching beam And one of it "stowed" Hope this helps!

Tom

Aaaah! So that's how they did it! I've always wondered and never noticed it in any pics.

Murdo

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Posted: Monday, April 16, 2012 - 08:21 AM UTC

Si, that ship is an absolute beauty!!!

Superb detail!

captnenglish

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Posted: Monday, April 16, 2012 - 09:26 AM UTC

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Thanks Matthew,

Is there an update set for it?

Cheers

Al

Sent it out last week, hopefully you will get it shortly.

edoardo

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Posted: Monday, April 16, 2012 - 05:16 PM UTC

Tom!
Thank you very much! This is just the info i needed!

In the last fiew nights i am working on the undiching rails, which, in my opinion, are too thick in the kit. So i decide to rebuild them in plastic card. Also, the L shape it seems to be in the wrong direction as it should face the inside of the tank...
Anyway a very tedious work and not even very satisfactory as it is very difficult to make the plastic card straight....

I still need some hours of work to finish it, then i'll post some pics... Till then,
Ciao
Edo

AlanL

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Posted: Monday, April 16, 2012 - 08:58 PM UTC

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Thanks Matthew,

Is there an update set for it?

Cheers

Al

Sent it out last week, hopefully you will get it shortly.

Hi Matthew,

Cool.

Al

RedDuster

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Posted: Tuesday, April 17, 2012 - 07:39 PM UTC

Murdo, Thank you for your kind words, I must admit I am going much deeper into this than I originally intended, but I am really enjoying it.

Edo, Looking forward to seeing the progress pics.

Si

vonHengest

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Posted: Thursday, April 19, 2012 - 01:26 PM UTC

Si: That's the spirit! Looking fabulous with your mods and additions.

Tom: Thanks for helping out Edo there, I found the info useful myself

Al: Keep posting test shots, things are looking better each time.

Keep going strong gang!

AlanL

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Posted: Friday, April 20, 2012 - 09:10 PM UTC

Hi folks,

Thought I'd try the Emhar 18 pdr. Basic is a good description about 10/12 parts

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I'm using Darren Bakers reference pics to try and add a bit of missing detail.

Would anyone know if the upper and lower armoured flaps were common to all 18 pdrs?

So far I've drilled out the tow hook and added some grab handles and fttings in that area, added a breech of sorts, some binding on the barrel and cut off the seating and cleaned the cross break members to allow detail to be added in that area.

Cheers

Al

AlanL

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Posted: Saturday, April 21, 2012 - 01:22 AM UTC

With a bit more work

captnenglish

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Posted: Saturday, April 21, 2012 - 06:31 AM UTC

Great stuff Alan. All this talk about this "basic" kit got me thinking about what to do with mine and as soon as I have time to start yet another project, I am going to use is as the center piece of a dio/vignette as a derelict with a bunch of Germans around it. I haven worked out the composition yet as this is just a brainstorming idea.
Again nice work Alan. Now I just have to get cracking on my entry for this campaign which is half fnished.

AlanL

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Posted: Saturday, April 21, 2012 - 07:52 PM UTC

Hi Matthew,

Yes, not much detail with this one. A bit more work on the sights and seats.

I donlt know much about the Mk I or Mk II for that matter.

I have removed part of the turning handle leaver. Does anyone know much about this part? I have a feeling the Mk I might not have had it and if so was part of it removeable lol.

Same question for the upper and lower gun shield flaps, how common were these?

Cheers

al

AlanL

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Posted: Saturday, April 21, 2012 - 08:08 PM UTC

Looks like the gun travers handle needs to loose the spiky part and would have to be repositioned in the up angle for firing.

Al

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