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Syrian T-62 Mod.72 build
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Posted: Friday, February 17, 2012 - 12:29 PM UTC
Hi Gentlemen,

I want to thank everyone for following along and for all the awsome pics and info. i feel like a kid in a candy store at times so its easy to get distracted from the task at hand. Ed and Mauro you guys have given me lots of inspiration with the pics and history and i very much appreciate it.

Jeff, and Steven, thanks guys!

Phil, here is a pic with arrows to the hose clamps we refered to that are made with strips cut from a cat food lid.
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got lots to do on the glacis. hopefully ill have update tomarrow.

Gary
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Posted: Friday, February 17, 2012 - 12:43 PM UTC
Hi Guys,

My point about the Iraqi tank photos is that somebody out there (believe me, there will be some), will think those are Syrian tanks and next thing it will appear on the net elsewhere. Obviously we want to present a factual historical database for Gary and anyone else who happens to be following this along.

As for your last photo of the T-62 on it's side with the wavy camo lines, that is indeed Syrian (not Egyptian) from the Yom Kippur war and it was knocked out at the anti-tank ditch in the "Valley of Tears". Here are more photos of the same tank from another angle and the assault bridge in place that was destroyed by Israeli counter-fire. A bonus is the color photo of the bridge which shows a camo pattern on it's sides.






Enjoy,
ED/ Frogman13
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Posted: Friday, February 17, 2012 - 04:58 PM UTC
@BBD468 – Gary,

I had noticed your build log some time ago but just have not had the time to sit long enough to read through it, until tonight. Looking good, I mean real good! You’ve got a great audience following along with some interesting history and photographs to keep you moving along. What a treat. Super job on the track sag and fuel lines and as usual a clean build. Looking forward to seeing more of what you’ll be doing on the chassis before you move on to the turret.

~ Eddy
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Posted: Friday, February 17, 2012 - 07:02 PM UTC

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As for your last photo of the T-62 on it's side with the wavy camo lines, that is indeed Syrian (not Egyptian) from the Yom Kippur war and it was knocked out at the anti-tank ditch in the "Valley of Tears". Here are more photos of the same tank from another angle and the assault bridge in place that was destroyed by Israeli counter-fire. A bonus is the color photo of the bridge which shows a camo pattern on it's sides.



Yes, that's it. Thanks a million for the pics Ed. I think is an interesting camo indeed

Regarding the Valley of tears, here some other pics taken from this site

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-3pgFdU4eHXc/TZeKGae9iEI/AAAAAAAA33U/iFZK7Oi5Zss/s1600/13322_419484781252_650221252_5808447_7909534_n.jpg

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-nDqtBrSdZ5Q/TZeKFfrlJdI/AAAAAAAA33Q/O0Z-Hp68FSA/s1600/13322_419484776252_650221252_5808446_2473438_n.jpg

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-e7bQyTAojAE/TZeKELNBEaI/AAAAAAAA33M/E09eS5DR4aA/s1600/13322_419484766252_650221252_5808445_5223951_n.jpg

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-hyQwee42R3Y/TZeKBiM_miI/AAAAAAAA33E/l94Fw5Qfcqg/s1600/13322_419490266252_650221252_5808567_4902927_n.jpg

Gary you're welcome. As Ed rightly said, syrian t-62s are rare beast indeed.I hope that this collection of pics could be useful for you and for the modellers who want to depict a middle eastern t-62

I know, that probably is quite an off topic, but anyway modern syrian T-62s, have an interesting dark gray-blue camo scheme which is visible in these pics

http://milinme.wordpress.com/2011/12/22/syrian-t-62-camouflage/

PS. Gary, your hose clamps are great. I hope I'll be able to do something similar on my t-62 and t-55. Thanks for sharing your build


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Posted: Saturday, February 18, 2012 - 06:02 AM UTC
Hi all,

Ed, and Mauro, Thanks again for the fantastic pics. the tank in the ditch with the stripes is very intersting to me. that would be a difficult paint scheme to replicate. i really like the blue, grey/green camo job on Jesse's T-55. would like to do one like that sometime.

Eddy,
thanks for dropping in man and for the kind words. this build is so much fun having all the history and references coming my way. i started this build not having a clue about modern cold war type armor. but im intrigued by action on the Golan Heights. a David vs. Goliath if you will. anyways, its a blast!

Made some progress this morning. gonna take a break and go see a movie with my sister. heres what i have done this morning.
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Thanks for looking!

Gary
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Posted: Saturday, February 18, 2012 - 06:48 AM UTC
Great job so far, very clean and precise


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Posted: Saturday, February 18, 2012 - 07:33 AM UTC
It is a realy clean build my friend! I'm also absorbing all the info on this tread, most educative.
Enjoy the movie.

Phil.
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Posted: Saturday, February 18, 2012 - 08:19 AM UTC
Thanks for using my IDF ARMOR blog
More about Syrian T62 in this post:
http://idf-armor.blogspot.com/2008/07/m-48-frog.html
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Posted: Saturday, February 18, 2012 - 08:28 AM UTC
Looking good Gary. What gauge wire are you using?
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Posted: Saturday, February 18, 2012 - 08:43 AM UTC
Still looking good. Lots of fun options for paint schemes on these russian tanks in the hands of other countries.
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Posted: Sunday, February 19, 2012 - 04:55 AM UTC

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Thanks for using my IDF ARMOR blog
More about Syrian T62 in this post:
http://idf-armor.blogspot.com/2008/07/m-48-frog.html



Well thanks a million to you for sharing those pics!
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Posted: Sunday, February 19, 2012 - 04:15 PM UTC
Hi Gentlemen,

Thanks for all your kind comments guys! the weather got bad so we didnt go see a movie. we stayed home and watched The Debt on netflix. pretty good movie! havent felt too well but managed to make some headlight guards. Holy crap! that was far more trouble than a thought it would be. or i just didnt have proper consentration. i probably made 10 or 12 of those darn things before i got 3 i liked. oh well its done now and i can move along. got to make wires for headlights and some touchups and filler putty work and then Turret time!
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Matt im not sure what guage the wire is. i have several sizes of multistrand wire, brass wire, and solid core wire. sorry man!

Thanks again all!
Gary
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Posted: Sunday, February 19, 2012 - 07:53 PM UTC
Excellent work Gary ! this is a subject that always creates interest. Must say the thread itself is packed full of some excellent references - makes Armorama a brilliant forum because of the contributors and advice - well done

cheers
Mark
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Posted: Sunday, February 19, 2012 - 08:39 PM UTC
Hey Gary

How did you attached the wires together? Did you weld them or did you use the glue? What kind of glue did you use?
Is a clean and very good job
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Posted: Sunday, February 19, 2012 - 10:26 PM UTC
i probably made 10 or 12 of those darn things before i got 3 i liked.



LOL, kinda do the same thing
ain't scraching fun :)


nice job on the wirestuff!

greet
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Posted: Sunday, February 19, 2012 - 11:22 PM UTC
Nice work on the head-light guards Gary, they look the part. As Mauro asked- what did you use to bring them together?
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Posted: Monday, February 20, 2012 - 02:17 AM UTC
Nice work Gary, Did you use a jig or just bent them?
I hope you are feeling better.

Phil.
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Posted: Monday, February 20, 2012 - 04:59 AM UTC
Great work Gary. I am really enjoying your build
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Posted: Monday, February 20, 2012 - 07:08 AM UTC
I really like the headlight gaurds. I may start having to scratchbuild my own, based on how good you make it look.
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Posted: Monday, February 20, 2012 - 01:13 PM UTC
Hey gentlemen,

thanks again guys! you are all so kind and supportive and i thank you all for that! i used superglue to attatch everything together. my cheap soldering iron is a gonner so trash time for it.

Phil, i did make a jig with a piece of wood and nails. i just keep getting the wrong shape and so i wood pull the nails reposition them and try again. wasnt on top of my game for sure.

Thanks again gentlemen!

Gary
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Posted: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 - 11:32 AM UTC
GARY,
BEAUTIFUL WORK ON YOUR T-62. I'M BUILDING A TALIBAN VERSION OF THIS TANK. HOPE YOU DON'T MIND IF I USE YOUR FUEL LINE TECHNIC. YOUR MODEL IS SURE BECOMING A REAL MASTER PIECE. TOP NOTCH WORKMAN SHIP. KEEP UP THE STUNNING WORK.
RESPECTFULY YOURS,
NICK MORGAN
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Posted: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 - 02:46 PM UTC
Hi Nick,

you are absolutely welcome to use any thing on this thread! we are all in this together. lets all learn together and have fun together!

Thanks for the kind words Nick. its been a blast so far and i have had some great history lessons as well.

Gary
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Posted: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 - 03:12 PM UTC
Gary
Very nice build so far, keep the high level

For modelers that perhaps not aware and interested in the subject and want read and see more details on the subject I can recommend my book "T-62 tank in the Israeli-Arab wars".
see details here:

http://www.sabingamartin.com/detailst62.html

Robert


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Posted: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 - 11:04 PM UTC
There is two nice pictures at DoD that might be interesting for anyone wanting to do the sand-green-gray cammo. Althought the photos are of a BMP-1 and a ZSU-23-4, and that the sun light at the photo op might play slightly with the colors, they should be good as reference. Just click and download the 2MB hig res versions:

http://www.defenseimagery.mil/imagery.html#a=search&s=DD-ST-85-01302&chk=6cfe0&guid=4dbf0aa99665344f87083fe50dbffef15117f7f0

http://www.defenseimagery.mil/imagery.html#a=search&s=DD-ST-85-01304&chk=6cfe0&guid=71aca89bd544e13ba052405ec09ed5524c56b009

Cheers,
/E
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Posted: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 - 05:06 AM UTC
Hi all,

Thanks Robert, for the kind words and the links. very cool!

Thanks Erik for the links. nice pics of the camo.

Made some progress this morning. still have lots of the little fiddly parts to do on the turret. maybe more progress pics tonight.
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Thanks for looking!

Gary