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The M-ATV Discussion Thread
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Posted: Sunday, March 25, 2012 - 07:42 PM UTC
Thanks for the picture.
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Posted: Thursday, March 29, 2012 - 04:56 AM UTC
While browsing some pictures on photo bucket, i've come across a few M-ATV's that seem to have some kind of properly fabricated sun shade? for the O-GPK turret. Makes for quite an interesting feature:

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Posted: Thursday, March 29, 2012 - 05:37 AM UTC
made by IbisTek, they are around.
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Posted: Tuesday, April 10, 2012 - 08:47 AM UTC
Steve, are Eagle mounts present on M-Atv's? Some pictures would be nice. Also I plan on adding some equipment to the truck, I was planning on using this kit. http://www.proartmodels.be/productgallery/product_gal_048.html
can someone identify what the different components are
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Posted: Tuesday, April 10, 2012 - 01:27 PM UTC
Yes, M-ATV's use Eagle Mounts. Check my O-GPK super thread for pictures. The link is in this thread. As to that set, there are lots of fire fighting tools, fire blankets, pack mounted fire extinguisher, jack, backboard. I think those are supposed to be Javelin missiles in transport mode, however there is no CLU which makes sense.

About the only things I can think of being useful from that set on an M-ATV are the Javelins, the fire blanket container, and the back board. Te cones are pretty ubiquitous, but our squadron hardly ever carried them. The rest is more Iraq centric due to the fire fighting gear.
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Posted: Tuesday, April 10, 2012 - 01:34 PM UTC
Thanks Steve, what are the two larger square cases used for and the taller containers. Also would this be appropriate for an Eagle mount
http://www.luckymodel.com/scale.aspx?item_no=LRE35018
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Posted: Tuesday, April 10, 2012 - 01:47 PM UTC
That long case looks like the case for a Stinger missile. The two tall narrow things are coolers with a spigot, standard Army issue. The first square box is also for food. Hot meals get served in them. The other square one looks like a cooler of some kind.

That could work, for an eagle mount. I have that set as a matter of fact. It all depends on the truck you are building and where it is. My suggestion, find a picture of a truck you want and go off that.
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Posted: Tuesday, April 10, 2012 - 01:50 PM UTC
Would stinger missiles be carried in a MATV and how would the Javelins be carried in an MATV
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Posted: Tuesday, April 10, 2012 - 02:06 PM UTC

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Would stinger missiles be carried in a MATV and how would the Javelins be carried in an MATV



Despite the AF's ever present fears that preclude them from flying effective CAS under 20,000 feet, the Taliban Air Force has yet to materialize. So no, stingers have no place in an M-ATV set in Afghanistan. On maneuvers stateside, I guess it's possible.

Javelins would be tossed in the back and tied down to something so they don't bump out. Either that or carried in a trailer towed behind the truck. Only time I ever saw a Javelin in an M-ATV, it was literally just tossed in the back, and that was unsat. Put it in the back, and tie it down to something. My Javelins were stowed inside an RG-31, never in an M-ATV so I can only speak to how I would do it.
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Posted: Sunday, April 22, 2012 - 05:27 AM UTC
Hello,

I am searching for some detail pictures of the box outside on the rear of the cabin. I think its for the Duke system or?




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Posted: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 - 05:18 PM UTC
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So I hope this post stays around for some time.
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Posted: Monday, April 30, 2012 - 06:58 PM UTC
Blast is selling a new " radio set" for M-ATV :

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Posted: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 - 02:23 PM UTC
^ pascal the Kinectic kit includes all of the radios shown above, one of the only highlights of the Kinetic kit
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Posted: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 - 05:02 PM UTC

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^ pascal the Kinectic kit includes all of the radios shown above, one of the only highlights of the Kinetic kit



Perharps, but the Panda model kit didn't included these items. Otherwise the Blast radio are surely better detailled than the Kinetic one ?
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Posted: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 - 11:18 PM UTC

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^ pascal the Kinectic kit includes all of the radios shown above, one of the only highlights of the Kinetic kit



Well, actually Kinetic include part of the radios but not complete units. They missed out the receiver and transmitter units on all of the radios, and just included the vehicular mounts. Therefor Kinetic's set-up isn't much use for a vehicle in the field, and of course whilst I commend them for including these items the detail is soft.
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Posted: Thursday, May 03, 2012 - 08:50 AM UTC

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^ pascal the Kinectic kit includes all of the radios shown above, one of the only highlights of the Kinetic kit



Well, actually Kinetic include part of the radios but not complete units. They missed out the receiver and transmitter units on all of the radios, and just included the vehicular mounts. Therefor Kinetic's set-up isn't much use for a vehicle in the field, and of course whilst I commend them for including these items the detail is soft.



I know the receivers and transmitters are missing, but simply having the majority of the radio unit is nice, and in my opinion is one of the few high points in a rather poor kit
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Posted: Sunday, May 06, 2012 - 08:49 AM UTC
Steve, how was ammo for the main weapon (.50 cal or mk. 19) stored inside the vehicle? As well where was ammo for the eagle mounted m240's and m249's carried?
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Posted: Monday, May 07, 2012 - 02:14 AM UTC

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Steve, how was ammo for the main weapon (.50 cal or mk. 19) stored inside the vehicle? As well where was ammo for the eagle mounted m240's and m249's carried?



There is virtually no room inside an M-ATV. I seem to recall there is a little rack similar to the one in a HMMWV that you can tie down 4 .50 cal cans, but I rarely saw that used. All our guys stowed their ammo in the turret bustle rack. That would give you plenty of ready ammo to get you through the initial contact. If you needed more past that it was stowed in the rear bed and tied down and a dismount or your TC or someone else could get out and grab it and pass it up to you. Most TIC's didn't last that long for the most part.

Also keep in mind how you much ready ammo you had on tap. For example, if you had an M2 mounted, everyone I know, including myself used a Mk19 ammo can mounted on the Mk-93 mount and that gave me 200 rounds of API on my primary weapon, though some guys used the larger 40mm can which doubled your initial load of .50 cal and I knew one guy who used a modified 20mm ammo can with an extension welded on. I didn't do this as it was more difficult to reload and all that weight bends the Mk-93 mount.

My eagle mounted 240 had 200 ready rounds, same with a SAW if that was mounted instead and then I had my M4 as a back up as well as an M9 and frags, more importantly I had at least 3 other trucks ready to rain scunion upon those who chose to engage us and cover me while I reloaded.

If you check out my O-GPK thread everything I just said is repeated and illustrated with pictures.

Chris Green's walk around also has pictures of an M-ATV with ammo stowed inside.
https://armorama.kitmaker.net//features/4093
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Posted: Monday, May 07, 2012 - 02:29 AM UTC

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Blast is selling a new " radio set" for M-ATV :




If you use this set, don't use this picture as a painting guide. The green is too faded, and the radios are not black in real life. MBITR's are black, HARRIS radios (the one's in the set) are green.

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Posted: Monday, May 07, 2012 - 05:11 AM UTC
Just started my Panda MATV this weekend and I take back every nice thing I said about this kit. There is not a single part so far that does not need a ton of work, removal of flash, huge sprue attachment points, work just to make a part fit to another part, whew, I can go on. But, once worked and assembled it does look bad-ass! I got the frame and drive train done over the course of two days and it's very impressive looking.
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Posted: Friday, May 11, 2012 - 01:22 AM UTC
Hi all
Been looking to get one of these kits probably the Kinetics with Def wheels
Is there a color option for in country vehicles other than the sand. I remember seeing in a web search a NATO camoed unit but I don't recall if it was State side or in country. I do know it was USMC.

Thanks
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Posted: Friday, May 11, 2012 - 01:42 AM UTC
No. That is your only option. The NATO Camo trucks were USMC trucks and I think was just an experiment as that's the only time I've seen evidence of it being done. Perhaps as we begin to bring them stateside and integrate them into the force they might get repainted but who knows.

If you're looking for ways to make your truck stand out, look for some of the more colorful and interesting "truck art" that's out there.
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Posted: Friday, May 11, 2012 - 01:59 AM UTC
Any photos of that Steve?
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Posted: Friday, May 11, 2012 - 02:09 AM UTC

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Any photos of that Steve?



My money is on Frenchy, he's got photos of everything. If not I might have them saved on my PC at home, so I'll check when I get home.