Could not fine anything on "LTD Your Scale" and don't know of anyone doing resin tires for the Deuce. (Don't know why not.) Would love to have a source for raised sidewall lettered tires for the CCKW!
I did talk to Archer suggesting they do sets of raised resin decal lettering for the more popular models out there; Deuce, Jeep, Blitz, Dragon Wagon, Mercedes and Bussing/Nag.
However I did not get the impression that would be something he was interested in doing, but hey, business opinions change with time!
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Posted: Sunday, March 15, 2015 - 06:57 PM UTC
Posted: Sunday, March 15, 2015 - 07:10 PM UTC
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Quoted Text - - I loved my 666 kit! A fun, enjoyable build.
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Started my White truck just last night. Beautifully engineered kit with great parts fit and many, many, very accurate parts locator pins. Makes for an easy assembly of an otherwise somewhat complex kit!!!
Also, the mold sculpting on the cab cloth top is outstanding.
Hopefully someone like Black Dog (Hint, Hint) will do a nice cloth (resin) top for the cargo box!
Quoted Text - - I loved my 666 kit! A fun, enjoyable build.
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Started my White truck just last night. Beautifully engineered kit with great parts fit and many, many, very accurate parts locator pins. Makes for an easy assembly of an otherwise somewhat complex kit!!!
Also, the mold sculpting on the cab cloth top is outstanding.
Hopefully someone like Black Dog (Hint, Hint) will do a nice cloth (resin) top for the cargo box!
Posted: Sunday, March 15, 2015 - 07:39 PM UTC
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I loved my 666 kit! A fun, enjoyable build.
A few pics here:
http://public.fotki.com/amcan/white-666-tractor/
Doc
I copied this post over to a thread covering the White 666 construction just to spread the word a bit further.
https://armorama.kitmaker.net/forums/225914
If I may ask, where did you get your fifth wheel? Looks like it could be from "CustomFactory" but not sure??? I once converted a Deuce to a semi-tractor using a nice fifth wheel off a toy truck and that worked out well. I want to do the same to a Studebaker Deuce and to my 666 as well.
Just a thought - - You might want to add some wedge shaped "run up ramps" behind the fifth wheel to protect the frame and the fifth wheel when backing in under a parked or loaded trailer. This is usually SOP on a semi-tractor especially on such a long wheel base vehicle where the fifth wheel ends up so far from the rear end of the vehicle frame.
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Posted: Sunday, March 15, 2015 - 07:52 PM UTC
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don't know of anyone doing resin tires for the Deuce. (Don't know why not.) Would love to have a source for raised sidewall lettered tires for the CCKW!
What about these Mike ?
H.P.
Posted: Sunday, March 15, 2015 - 08:12 PM UTC
Looks great Frenchy. I didn't know about these - thanks.
Mike
Mike
Posted: Sunday, March 15, 2015 - 09:18 PM UTC
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Quoted Text: - Just a thought - - You might want to add some wedge shaped "run up ramps" behind the fifth wheel to protect the frame and the fifth wheel when backing in under a low parked or loaded trailer. This is SOP on a semi-tractor especially on such a long wheel base vehicle where the fifth wheel ends up so far from the rear end of the vehicle frame. End Quote
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White Motors Corp./US Army photo
I admit the photo above is of a factory production semi-tractor rather than a post-war conversion but it looks like on this one they have removed the bumperettes and also shortened the frame back 8 inches to the tow hitch cross brace.
And of course added the trailer run up ramps. - If you get in a situation where you are trying to hitch to a trailer that is sitting low for some reason; as in it has sunken into soft ground or is sitting facing down hill or it is already heavily loaded, you are going to need those run up ramps.
p.s. I don't know if I can stand to leave the winch off though!
Quoted Text: - Just a thought - - You might want to add some wedge shaped "run up ramps" behind the fifth wheel to protect the frame and the fifth wheel when backing in under a low parked or loaded trailer. This is SOP on a semi-tractor especially on such a long wheel base vehicle where the fifth wheel ends up so far from the rear end of the vehicle frame. End Quote
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White Motors Corp./US Army photo
I admit the photo above is of a factory production semi-tractor rather than a post-war conversion but it looks like on this one they have removed the bumperettes and also shortened the frame back 8 inches to the tow hitch cross brace.
And of course added the trailer run up ramps. - If you get in a situation where you are trying to hitch to a trailer that is sitting low for some reason; as in it has sunken into soft ground or is sitting facing down hill or it is already heavily loaded, you are going to need those run up ramps.
p.s. I don't know if I can stand to leave the winch off though!
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Posted: Monday, March 16, 2015 - 02:56 AM UTC
I've got a Korean War period picture in a Japanese book that shows similar tractors with a winch in lieu of the "storage box" behind the cab (some of them towing 20-ton low bed semi trailers) ...
H.P.
H.P.
Posted: Monday, March 16, 2015 - 07:04 AM UTC
That's good to hear because if I had a rig like this with a decent sized trailer I would want to have a rear mounted winch available in case I had to pull something up onto that trailer.
Anyone know of a source for an after market fifth wheel? I found one source but their product doesn't match the quality of the rest of the kit.
Anyone know of a source for an after market fifth wheel? I found one source but their product doesn't match the quality of the rest of the kit.
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Posted: Monday, March 16, 2015 - 07:40 AM UTC
Found a review for LTD Your Scale right here on Armorama.
My computer skills are not the best. But if you would go to reviews and select your scale under manufacturer it will bring up the review on the wheels for the 2 1/2 ton .
Unfortunately this review is about three years old.The company may not be in business any more to bad the wheels looked interesting .
Dave M
My computer skills are not the best. But if you would go to reviews and select your scale under manufacturer it will bring up the review on the wheels for the 2 1/2 ton .
Unfortunately this review is about three years old.The company may not be in business any more to bad the wheels looked interesting .
Dave M
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Posted: Tuesday, March 17, 2015 - 07:42 AM UTC
Just got this info about Your Scale wheels.
http://www.maxxmodellbau.com/product_info.php?info=p1323_studebaker-us6-corrected-wheels-for-icm.html
I have seen wheels on E-Bay I think, listed as being for the Studebaker US6.
Dave M
http://www.maxxmodellbau.com/product_info.php?info=p1323_studebaker-us6-corrected-wheels-for-icm.html
I have seen wheels on E-Bay I think, listed as being for the Studebaker US6.
Dave M
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Posted: Tuesday, March 17, 2015 - 08:25 AM UTC
Doc, that fifth wheel is a modified casting of the fifth wheel found in the Tamiya M26 Dragon Wagon kit.
If you look carefully at the end of the chassis, you should be able to make that I indeed added the loading wedges.
Because the Studebaker is a smaller truck than either the 6 ton 666 and the 10+ ton M26, the M26's fifth wheel would be, I feel, too large. I recommend using one from any of the Monogram (now Revell) 1/32nd scale trucks (like the Mack R or Freightliner) or those from AMT.
https://armorama.kitmaker.net/forums/225914
If I may ask, where did you get your fifth wheel? Looks like it could be from "CustomFactory" but not sure??? I once converted a Deuce to a semi-tractor using a nice fifth wheel off a toy truck and that worked out well. I want to do the same to a Studebaker Deuce and to my 666 as well.
Just a thought - - You might want to add some wedge shaped "run up ramps" behind the fifth wheel to protect the frame and the fifth wheel when backing in under a parked or loaded trailer. This is usually SOP on a semi-tractor especially on such a long wheel base vehicle where the fifth wheel ends up so far from the rear end of the vehicle frame. [/quote] put italicized text here
If you look carefully at the end of the chassis, you should be able to make that I indeed added the loading wedges.
Because the Studebaker is a smaller truck than either the 6 ton 666 and the 10+ ton M26, the M26's fifth wheel would be, I feel, too large. I recommend using one from any of the Monogram (now Revell) 1/32nd scale trucks (like the Mack R or Freightliner) or those from AMT.
https://armorama.kitmaker.net/forums/225914
If I may ask, where did you get your fifth wheel? Looks like it could be from "CustomFactory" but not sure??? I once converted a Deuce to a semi-tractor using a nice fifth wheel off a toy truck and that worked out well. I want to do the same to a Studebaker Deuce and to my 666 as well.
Just a thought - - You might want to add some wedge shaped "run up ramps" behind the fifth wheel to protect the frame and the fifth wheel when backing in under a parked or loaded trailer. This is usually SOP on a semi-tractor especially on such a long wheel base vehicle where the fifth wheel ends up so far from the rear end of the vehicle frame. [/quote] put italicized text here
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Posted: Tuesday, March 17, 2015 - 08:29 AM UTC
My apologies, Doc. I must have been thinking about the work I did on my M52 conversion. I just looked at the 666 and there are no wedges!
I modeled the truck as if someone had taken a surplus 6x6 cargo truck post-war, pulled off the cargo bed, and converted the truck to a semi. given the distance from the fifth wheel to the end of the frame rails, probably the wedges would have been overlooked.
"If you look carefully at the end of the chassis, you should be able to make that I indeed added the loading wedges."
I modeled the truck as if someone had taken a surplus 6x6 cargo truck post-war, pulled off the cargo bed, and converted the truck to a semi. given the distance from the fifth wheel to the end of the frame rails, probably the wedges would have been overlooked.
"If you look carefully at the end of the chassis, you should be able to make that I indeed added the loading wedges."
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Posted: Tuesday, March 17, 2015 - 04:03 PM UTC
I agree the Dragon Wagon fifth wheel might be OK for the White truck but is way too large for the GMC Deuce or for the Studebaker.
The Dragon Wagon had an extra heavy duty, oversized fifth wheel with an oversized hitch pin to handle the heavier loading.
The Dragon Wagon had an extra heavy duty, oversized fifth wheel with an oversized hitch pin to handle the heavier loading.
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Posted: Tuesday, March 17, 2015 - 07:03 PM UTC
I guess that both DESKit Autocar :
and Masters Productions Chevrolet :
kits include suitable fifth wheels....Too bad they're not sold separately.
H.P.
and Masters Productions Chevrolet :
kits include suitable fifth wheels....Too bad they're not sold separately.
H.P.
Posted: Tuesday, March 17, 2015 - 09:16 PM UTC
I agree.
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Posted: Tuesday, March 17, 2015 - 10:41 PM UTC
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...fifth wheels....Too bad they're not sold separately.
There is this fifth wheel set by Custom Factory. I have one and it is nice. It includes the fifth wheel, mount, and ramps.
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Posted: Tuesday, March 17, 2015 - 11:02 PM UTC
Don Mills has some parts that fit 1/32-1/34 scale... why not 1/35??
http://donmillsmodels.com/product-category/132-134th-scale-parts-for-first-gear-truck/
http://donmillsmodels.com/product-category/132-134th-scale-parts-for-first-gear-truck/
Posted: Wednesday, March 18, 2015 - 12:02 AM UTC
Now those look like they have some serious possibilities!
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Posted: Saturday, March 21, 2015 - 08:37 PM UTC
Browsing E-Bay came across the other set of wheels that I have heard about , they are listed for use on the ICM Studebaker and made by Tank Workshop.
Could not tell if they had raised lettering on the side walls.
Dave M
Could not tell if they had raised lettering on the side walls.
Dave M
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Posted: Saturday, March 28, 2015 - 11:37 AM UTC
Posted: Saturday, March 28, 2015 - 01:17 PM UTC
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There is this fifth wheel set by Custom Factory. I have one and it is nice. It includes the fifth wheel, mount, and ramps.
Just received mine in the mail yesterday. Looks like it will work perfectly on the larger White 666 truck and for the Deuce and Studi you will have to scratch some smaller trailer run up ramps.
Mike
Posted: Thursday, April 02, 2015 - 05:40 PM UTC
That would be a good solution to an awkward problem with the HobbyBoss.
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Posted: Friday, April 03, 2015 - 06:25 AM UTC
I would like to start a discussion on tire size for the Deuce. Back on March20,2013 Mike raised a question about tire size for the Deuce and it took awhile to get a reply, on May 21,2013 M4A1Sherman replied and mentioned a difference in the physical size between tires marked the same size but from different manufactures .
Armed with the information that the Deuce used 7.50 X 20 tires ( and I hope information is right if not some one correct me please)and my 1/35 scale murpheys rule started measuring a wheel from Italeri, Heller, Tamiya and KMC Resin.
The Italeri wheel came out 7.5" side wall to sidewall,20" for rim height, 36" for total tire height. Heller came in with the same measurements for rim and side wall but 36" for total tire height. Tamiya measured 9" side wall to side wall, 19.5" for rim height 36" total tire height. The KMC measured 12" side to side 18" for rim height and 39" for total tire height. I do hope to acquire tire sets from DEF Models,Tank Work Shop and Your Scale to check their measurements .
Visually Tamiya's look the best, KMC look huge the others do look to skinny . Oops it pays to read instruction I just looked at the KMC one's they list the wheels as 9X20" no wonder they look huge.
Hey I noticed Hobby Boss SWB starting to show up on E-Bay.
Armed with the information that the Deuce used 7.50 X 20 tires ( and I hope information is right if not some one correct me please)and my 1/35 scale murpheys rule started measuring a wheel from Italeri, Heller, Tamiya and KMC Resin.
The Italeri wheel came out 7.5" side wall to sidewall,20" for rim height, 36" for total tire height. Heller came in with the same measurements for rim and side wall but 36" for total tire height. Tamiya measured 9" side wall to side wall, 19.5" for rim height 36" total tire height. The KMC measured 12" side to side 18" for rim height and 39" for total tire height. I do hope to acquire tire sets from DEF Models,Tank Work Shop and Your Scale to check their measurements .
Visually Tamiya's look the best, KMC look huge the others do look to skinny . Oops it pays to read instruction I just looked at the KMC one's they list the wheels as 9X20" no wonder they look huge.
Hey I noticed Hobby Boss SWB starting to show up on E-Bay.
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Posted: Friday, April 03, 2015 - 08:31 AM UTC
Mike thought you might get a chuckle out of this. A review on Tamiyas 1/48 airfield fuel truck.
(quote) Like other manufactures, Tamiya likes to introduce new versions using proven kit part to expand their offerings and cover more bases.
Some times.
DaveM
(quote) Like other manufactures, Tamiya likes to introduce new versions using proven kit part to expand their offerings and cover more bases.
Some times.
DaveM