I too have attempted to start such a discussion: I certainly wish I had thought of measuring the tires on the Deuce when I was down at the WWII Museum in New Orleans.

I wish we could get a definitive answer on which model tires are the best/most correct. Up till now I have been using the Tamiya tires almost exclusively on all my Deuce models.

The Tamiya tires are to me the most visually pleasing but I am concerned that they may be oversized. I always make a point to sand a "flat spot" in the bottom of the tire to do what I can to visually reduce the size of the tire even slightly.

Mike

p.s. Dave is there perhaps a link missing in your last post about the 1/48 Deuce airport fuel truck?

Here's the link for the review on the 1/48 fuel tanker. I was being lazy


linkname http://www.missing-lynx.com/reviews/48/tamiya32579reviewcs_1.html

Cool! Never knew that this existed!!

Totally do not understand why Tamiya would produce a closed cab in 1/48th and not in 1/35th. Unbelievable.

Had to post - beautifully done - Modeler Unknown.

Will have to try these resin tires from DEF. MODELS just for the raised lettering if nothing else!

I have suggested to Archer for raised resin tire lettering but they don't seem interested.




Thanks Frenchy for the lead to Def. Models!

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Someone beat me to the punch with a beautifully rendered CCKW with Piper load!
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That model CCKW with Piper load is made by Heavensgate from my German forum:
http://www.modellboard.net/index.php?topic=48450.45


Michael

Glad to give credit where credit is due. Outstanding model!

In doing research on the Deuce I came across some post from June of 05. They were interesting so I started to do some digging in the soft skin forum.
There were a few GMC fanatics before you Mike. Frenchy can answer this question who is Mr Roo . It seemed any time there was a question about GMC trucks Mr Roo's name would pop up much like Frenchy's does in this thread.

Dave

Roo is me LOL! Yes I have a fascination about everything GMC-CCKW. While I have not done anything in these lines for a little while all my research is still available if needed. Last build was an Australian DUKW with a Piper load.


more photos here....http://s108.photobucket.com/user/MrRoo_2006/library/Piper%20Cub%20on%20DUKW?sort=4&page=1

and more albums of my other models here....http://s108.photobucket.com/user/MrRoo_2006/library/?sort=3&page=1

these include all my scratchbuilt and kit bash builds. Most if not all these are now on display at a Military Museum an hours drive north of where I live in Queensland.

Nice to meet you Cliff .
Nice work, very interesting subject matter liked the surgical Deuce.
Next long week end I get and the weather is lousy I'm going to have to go through all the old post in the soft skin forum and see what I can learn and then shoot a few questions your way.
I am currently working on a SWB closed cab using an Italeri kit. I started it before Hobby Boss released their SWB so might as well finish it, then I can get Hobby Boss kit and compare the two.
Dave

Yes I know Mr Roo (I remember some exchanges about pre-war military Dodges and "convertible" Australian GMCs....many moons ago ) but we're definitely not playing in the same league (I guess a look at his albums should suffice ! ).

H.P.

Just in case one wonders about what Masters Production (now U-Models) 2.5 ton truck closed cab looks like, there's an Italian modeller currently building the Chevrolet G7113 variant :

http://www.network54.com/Forum/110741/thread/1430508496/Red+Ball+truck

H.P.

Excellent post Frenchy. Now I have something else to add to my wish list!

Mike

FYI all, the HobbyBoss CCKW-352 is now available stateside at Squadron. Don't know if they tweaked the cab or not? Regardless I am very excited!

Jim Harr

I have the kit, and no they have not. Also its short one tire for a spare. Its a ok kit, you get both long and short frames.

UNDENYABLY STUPID OF THEM!!! I really have to question the wisdom of some of these model manufacturers' decision-making processes... They can't see the forest for the trees, to use a tired, old cliche...

Hi Folks - I am a new member here.
This is my GMC 352:
http://www.danskemodelbyggere.dk/forum/index.php?topic=3506.0
Sorry, but it's only in Danish for now.
But at least there are pictures

Moe

Very nice work Morten, I use Chrome, which auto-translated for me!

Morton my compliments! You really took you model to and all new level. Great work there!

No it isn't, at least mine isn't. You should get 2x sprue D with one tire each and 5x sprue C with two tires each. So total 12 tires: 10 main and 2 spare.

You must be lucky then, mine is short and also a friends that he built over a month ago. Maybe a run got shorted.

A couple comments on a couple post.
On why Tamiya can not make a 1/35 scale closed cab but can do it in 1/48. In a review of the 1/48 fuel truck it was stated using proven kit parts to expand their line. Now I know that could be interpreted a couple ways. But what could of came from the molds of the cargo truck? Nothing!! The fuel truck used all new molds. The frame is plastic not metal, the closed cab, the fuel tank. Tamiya may never make a closed cab version because they would have to make all new molds. Now HobbyBoss has thought about future releases by all ready putting both cabs into their molds ( as we've seen by some of the sprue shot's from their fuel tanker )
Now as long as the subject of tires came up. As I understand it when talking tire size your talking about the inside of the tire were it meets the rim. So with that I sanded a Italeri wheel down to the rim. Came up with 7.5X20
Now I agree with Mike I like the look of Tamiya Wheels and that's part of this hobby what looks right to you from the color of the O.D. you use to how much weathering you put on.

Warning on measuring to the lip of the wheel rim to determine wheel/tire size.

Wheel size is determined by the diameter of the wheel drum itself and NOT the diameter of the lip that runs around the inside and outside edges of that drum.

If you measure only to the edge of the lip on the drum you will end up with a number that can be as much as 3 inches too large.

The hole in the tire and the diameter of the wheel drum are the same, they match each other which is why today we need a piece of fairly heavy machinery to stretch the tire over the lip of the wheel and onto the drum to mount the tire.

Of course in WWII days split rims overcame this problem!

Example the Mack NO6 had 24 inch tires. (Outside diameter of the wheel drum itself.)

However if you measured to the outside edge of the lip of the wheel drum you would get a measurement of almost 27 inches which certainly would throw off your other scale measurements.

I was fortunate to find an exact left side original profile photo of the Mack NO while attempting to build one from scratch. I used this one KNOWN wheel measurement to make scale measurements of everything else in the photo.

If I had used the outside lip of the wheel drum and called that 24 inches my entire model would have turned out about 12% too small!