Thanks for the description of your "stone mason" technique. I'm definitely giving that a try on my current build.
Since you're doing the trees now, if you could, please don't skimp on your SBS photos. The large dead tree on your GI Gun Crew vignette was pretty spectacular. It'd be nice to see how you do these.
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Posted: Saturday, November 02, 2013 - 02:21 AM UTC
I will see what I can do with the pics,sure! Glad you could follow my rambling explanation of the plaster work.
Thanks Mike for the kind words about the old tree in the GI dio. That was done a bit differently as I used a piece of an old dead tree root for the basic trunk and added twisted wire branches. I kept the branches to the bottom of the tree as I didn't want the tree to overpower the dio.
Here are some pics showing the next step. Plaster has been lathered on for the first coat. I use an old paint brush and keep the plaster kind of soupy. I put the thicker plaster on the thicker parts of the trunk and put watery plaster on the thinner parts by painting it on. When it dries,excess will be removed with a blade. Then more layers will be added where needed until the lumpy look fades away.(unless you want the lumpy look,as some trees do look lumpy).
In the second pic you can see I started to add thinner gauges of wire as well. The problem with trees in winter is of course,there is nowhere to hide!! You have to show exposed branches and twigs and also know when to stop! You could take all year if you get carried away.
Happy to answer any and all....
J
Thanks Mike for the kind words about the old tree in the GI dio. That was done a bit differently as I used a piece of an old dead tree root for the basic trunk and added twisted wire branches. I kept the branches to the bottom of the tree as I didn't want the tree to overpower the dio.
Here are some pics showing the next step. Plaster has been lathered on for the first coat. I use an old paint brush and keep the plaster kind of soupy. I put the thicker plaster on the thicker parts of the trunk and put watery plaster on the thinner parts by painting it on. When it dries,excess will be removed with a blade. Then more layers will be added where needed until the lumpy look fades away.(unless you want the lumpy look,as some trees do look lumpy).
In the second pic you can see I started to add thinner gauges of wire as well. The problem with trees in winter is of course,there is nowhere to hide!! You have to show exposed branches and twigs and also know when to stop! You could take all year if you get carried away.
Happy to answer any and all....
J
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Posted: Saturday, November 02, 2013 - 02:43 AM UTC
That's fantastic. I would have never thought of making trees that way. You're mighty innovative, sir.
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Posted: Saturday, November 02, 2013 - 03:05 AM UTC
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That's fantastic. I would have never thought of making trees that way. You're mighty innovative, sir.
Thanks Conor. I can't take the credit for the twisted wire technique as that has been around for decades. I don't think I ever saw anyone use plaster though...could be wrong. That part was born of necessity and laziness I think.
J
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Posted: Saturday, November 02, 2013 - 08:44 AM UTC
an excellent job as always
Posted: Saturday, November 02, 2013 - 10:41 PM UTC
Nice to see how you do those trees Jerry- also many thanks for the masonry technique explanation!
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Posted: Wednesday, November 06, 2013 - 04:28 AM UTC
Hi Jerry,
sorry off topic I sent you a pm yesterday, wanted to make sure it went to the right place
- John
sorry off topic I sent you a pm yesterday, wanted to make sure it went to the right place
- John
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Posted: Wednesday, November 06, 2013 - 08:38 AM UTC
Hot d@#n, Jerry!
Those look great! I see another idea I've gotta swipe from ya!
The mossy green on the bark is a very nice touch, too.
Thanks, again, for taking the time to document the tree construction.
Those look great! I see another idea I've gotta swipe from ya!
The mossy green on the bark is a very nice touch, too.
Thanks, again, for taking the time to document the tree construction.
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Posted: Wednesday, November 06, 2013 - 09:26 AM UTC
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Hot d@#n, Jerry!
Those look great! I see another idea I've gotta swipe from ya!
The mossy green on the bark is a very nice touch, too.
Thanks, again, for taking the time to document the tree construction.
No probs. I owe ya,sa I am stealin so much stuff from your builds anyway! Heeheehee.
J
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Posted: Wednesday, November 06, 2013 - 10:31 AM UTC
There we go! That's awesome. I like it better without the back ground photo, gives it a more eerie winter feel. Did you use mainly Scenic Factory products? I've got some but haven't had a chance to try them yet. I think I mentioned this on the gun crew thread but the moss on the trees are great. I used an AK wash when I did it a while ago. What did you use for the dead bushes and undergrowth? Looks like the real thing. I love the way you're building the groundwork, and I, like Mike, intend to copy it
Keep the updates coming, sir
-Conor
Keep the updates coming, sir
-Conor
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Posted: Wednesday, November 06, 2013 - 12:24 PM UTC
Jerry, make that three of us that intend to "borrow" from you!
The groundwork is probably among the best I've seen. I'm still learning when it comes to groundwork, so I'll be following this one..
Looking forward to seeing this come together!
All the best,mate
Gary.
The groundwork is probably among the best I've seen. I'm still learning when it comes to groundwork, so I'll be following this one..
Looking forward to seeing this come together!
All the best,mate
Gary.
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Posted: Wednesday, November 06, 2013 - 08:28 PM UTC
Back from treatment I discovered these latest pics.......and that's just brilliant m8!!
I love your terrain anyway, but this is a true beauty!!!
Will you gratify us with more pictures in due time?? Certainly hope so!!
Thanks in the meantime for posting these!!
Biiig congratulations bro!!
Cheers
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Posted: Wednesday, November 06, 2013 - 11:48 PM UTC
Jerry that groundwork is second to none- the tones of the wood and the deadfall are perfection- the green moss inching up the tree bark is a particularly nice touch and the remaining few leaves still on the branches is well observed. The actual mud though, I have to say, looks incredibly real and it blends perfectly with the undergrowth and deadfall- what materials did you use for those by the way?
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Posted: Thursday, November 07, 2013 - 02:41 AM UTC
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There we go! That's awesome. I like it better without the back ground photo, gives it a more eerie winter feel. Did you use mainly Scenic Factory products? I've got some but haven't had a chance to try them yet. I think I mentioned this on the gun crew thread but the moss on the trees are great. I used an AK wash when I did it a while ago. What did you use for the dead bushes and undergrowth? Looks like the real thing. I love the way you're building the groundwork, and I, like Mike, intend to copy it
Thanks Conor,
I used Hudson and Allen dead leaves for the fallen leaves. The bushes were from a scratch pad from a floor buffer. You have to rip pieces off of the block it comes in and form and cut them to shape as needed. A lot of landscape companies for railroaders offer these and now also dio products companies. Can't remember off hand which brand this stuff is from as I have all my foliage and groundwork stuff in a big bin,mostly with labeling removed.
It always works if you pay attention to the real deal as far as trees and bushes go. Pretty simple and yet I keep having to re-learn that lesson,
J
Keep the updates coming, sir
-Conor
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Posted: Thursday, November 07, 2013 - 02:44 AM UTC
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Jerry, make that three of us that intend to "borrow" from you!
The groundwork is probably among the best I've seen. I'm still learning when it comes to groundwork, so I'll be following this one..
Looking forward to seeing this come together!
All the best,mate
Gary.
Thanks Gary for the kind words. The best groundwork I ever saw was at Telford 3 years ago. Awesome stuff. And Andy Argent from England is always upping the game as well. His stuff is just gorgeous. He posts on Missinglinx a lot.
Never be above checking out the model railroad guys as they do striking work as well! You're not a slouch either buddy!
J
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Posted: Thursday, November 07, 2013 - 02:46 AM UTC
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Back from treatment I discovered these latest pics.......and that's just brilliant m8!!
I love your terrain anyway, but this is a true beauty!!!
Will you gratify us with more pictures in due time?? Certainly hope so!!
Thanks in the meantime for posting these!!
Biiig congratulations bro!
Thanks for the kind words buddy.
Sorry to here you were still in treatment. Hope all is proceeding well? Thoughts and prayers are with you.
I will see if I can keep up with the pics. I don't want to bore everybody with all the minutia
Thanks again and GET WELL!!
J
Back from treatment I discovered these latest pics.......and that's just brilliant m8!!
I love your terrain anyway, but this is a true beauty!!!
Will you gratify us with more pictures in due time?? Certainly hope so!!
Thanks in the meantime for posting these!!
Biiig congratulations bro!
Thanks for the kind words buddy.
Sorry to here you were still in treatment. Hope all is proceeding well? Thoughts and prayers are with you.
I will see if I can keep up with the pics. I don't want to bore everybody with all the minutia
Thanks again and GET WELL!!
J
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Posted: Thursday, November 07, 2013 - 02:51 AM UTC
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Jerry that groundwork is second to none- the tones of the wood and the deadfall are perfection- the green moss inching up the tree bark is a particularly nice touch and the remaining few leaves still on the branches is well observed. The actual mud though, I have to say, looks incredibly real and it blends perfectly with the undergrowth and deadfall- what materials did you use for those by the way?
Thanks Karl,
I can always count on a generous word from you.
The deadfall was from Hudson and Allen studios. I have used their stuff for longer than I care to say!
The mud was from plaster mixed with real dirt and painted with AK Interactive dirt and mud colors. I am still working on it and need to do a lot more. I wanted to complete the background of the dio before I added the halftrack and blended it into the groundwork.
Thanks for looking in and for COMMENTING!!
J
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Posted: Thursday, November 07, 2013 - 06:31 PM UTC
Hi Jerry,
Thanks for the thoughts and prayers! I can use all the help there is!! Treatment is going to be a long haul, but I will manage!
What's bothering me is that I've presently got no energy to continue on my HUE dio project! Progress is veeery slow!!
Maybe with your precious support...!!?!
Cheers bro!
Romain
Thanks for the thoughts and prayers! I can use all the help there is!! Treatment is going to be a long haul, but I will manage!
What's bothering me is that I've presently got no energy to continue on my HUE dio project! Progress is veeery slow!!
Maybe with your precious support...!!?!
Cheers bro!
Romain
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Posted: Friday, November 08, 2013 - 05:16 AM UTC
All looks spot on dude. Those AK mud effects really are great. I like the look of the road too, what colors did you use for the pavement? Whichever it is it works great. And ditchwater would look great in the ditch.
Keeps getting better!
-Conor
Keeps getting better!
-Conor
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Posted: Friday, November 08, 2013 - 06:39 AM UTC
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All looks spot on dude. Those AK mud effects really are great. I like the look of the road too, what colors did you use for the pavement? Whichever it is it works great. And ditchwater would look great in the ditch.
Keeps getting better!
-Conor
Thanks brother,
There already is ditchwater. It is just wet areas where the water is just below the surface. The green path through the leaves.
J
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Posted: Friday, November 08, 2013 - 01:28 PM UTC
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Thanks brother,
There already is ditchwater. It is just wet areas where the water is just below the surface. The green path through the leaves.
J
Ahh, I see it now. I was looking on the side of the road haha.
-Conor