Oh but wait that means I would have to decide which 1 to build got 2 Panthers and 3 Jagdpanthers, all from Dragon in the stash
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ltb073
Joined: March 08, 2010
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Posted: Saturday, November 15, 2014 - 01:44 AM UTC
Love the look of those zimmed up Panthers cant wait to get started on mine
Oh but wait that means I would have to decide which 1 to build got 2 Panthers and 3 Jagdpanthers, all from Dragon in the stash
Oh but wait that means I would have to decide which 1 to build got 2 Panthers and 3 Jagdpanthers, all from Dragon in the stash
Motives
Joined: October 15, 2013
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Posted: Saturday, November 15, 2014 - 03:13 AM UTC
Nice job there Matthew!
Sal: my vote is on one of the jagdpanthers!
I fitted the stowage tube and left side track link holder
A pretty fiddly and delicate job... I think I will have to change my assembly order and get the upper and lower hull assembled before adding any more of the PE detail or it's bound to be breakage from handling!
Sal: my vote is on one of the jagdpanthers!
I fitted the stowage tube and left side track link holder
A pretty fiddly and delicate job... I think I will have to change my assembly order and get the upper and lower hull assembled before adding any more of the PE detail or it's bound to be breakage from handling!
wedgetail53
Joined: October 02, 2008
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Posted: Saturday, November 15, 2014 - 03:17 AM UTC
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A pretty fiddly and delicate job... I think I will have to change my assembly order and get the upper and lower hull assembled before adding any more of the PE detail or it's bound to be breakage from handling!
Johan
Very true, as I can attest from personal painful experience. In fact, I'm up to the weathering stage with mine and have still to add the aerial and "driver knows" guides on the front, as I know full well that otherwise I'll knock them off.
Regards
Rob
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RuloMxy
Joined: March 05, 2009
KitMaker: 154 posts
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Posted: Saturday, November 15, 2014 - 09:20 AM UTC
Hi all,
I am very happy to join this amazing campaign! I will be building an old Tamiya Panther G Early version. As there is no way around the zimmerit in this version, I will most likely be using a Cavalier set.
I am very happy to join this amazing campaign! I will be building an old Tamiya Panther G Early version. As there is no way around the zimmerit in this version, I will most likely be using a Cavalier set.
ColinEdm
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Joined: October 15, 2013
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Posted: Saturday, November 15, 2014 - 09:34 AM UTC
Some progress on mine, lower hull assembled, primered, preshaded and base coat:
upper hull ready for primer:
upper hull ready for primer:
Motives
Joined: October 15, 2013
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Posted: Sunday, November 16, 2014 - 12:40 PM UTC
Nice job Colin!
Mine got shoes!
Being a real man i obviously did not look at the instructions before assembling the tracks so it was not until the end of the second run when i RAN OUT of magic tracks i realized you where supposed to use 8 special track pieces per run around the running gear...
So, a tip if you are building a dragon panther with magic tracks, read the instructions
Mine got shoes!
Being a real man i obviously did not look at the instructions before assembling the tracks so it was not until the end of the second run when i RAN OUT of magic tracks i realized you where supposed to use 8 special track pieces per run around the running gear...
So, a tip if you are building a dragon panther with magic tracks, read the instructions
Bonaparte84
Joined: July 17, 2013
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Posted: Sunday, November 16, 2014 - 07:38 PM UTC
Hey folks,
this will be my entry, a Revell Panther G early version in Braille scale with Part PE Zimmerit, Voyager Model PE and AM barrel (don't know which one, yet as I have an RB and an Aber one). Still debating whether to buy OKB resin tracks...
This is my very first campaign, and I'm über excited.
Cheers!
this will be my entry, a Revell Panther G early version in Braille scale with Part PE Zimmerit, Voyager Model PE and AM barrel (don't know which one, yet as I have an RB and an Aber one). Still debating whether to buy OKB resin tracks...
This is my very first campaign, and I'm über excited.
Cheers!
PantherF
Joined: June 10, 2005
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Posted: Sunday, November 16, 2014 - 08:16 PM UTC
Quoted Text
Hey folks,
this will be my entry, a Revell Panther G early version in Braille scale with Part PE Zimmerit, Voyager Model PE and AM barrel (don't know which one, yet as I have an RB and an Aber one). Still debating whether to buy OKB resin tracks...
This is my very first campaign, and I'm über excited.
Cheers!
First Campaign?!!! Well, I'm honored you chose this one as I'm sure you'll have a great time with your selection there!
Everyone is coming along nicely now... time to jump in soon!
Jeff
Bonaparte84
Joined: July 17, 2013
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Posted: Sunday, November 16, 2014 - 09:35 PM UTC
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First Campaign?!!! Well, I'm honored you chose this one as I'm sure you'll have a great time with your selection there!
Jeff
Thanks! Looking at your nick and all, you seem like the right person to ask. Would a Normandie Panther G have had the rain guard between turret and gun mantle? The corresponding PE part looks sexy, but the Panther has to be accurate for a Normandie setting (Dio ahead...
)
Northern_Lad
Joined: September 17, 2012
KitMaker: 462 posts
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Posted: Sunday, November 16, 2014 - 09:58 PM UTC
So my extra AM goodies arrived in the post today! Woohoo...
More progress pics at the weekend...
Ach, panthers really are just the way forward...
More progress pics at the weekend...
Ach, panthers really are just the way forward...
Northern_Lad
Joined: September 17, 2012
KitMaker: 462 posts
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Posted: Sunday, November 16, 2014 - 10:07 PM UTC
Quoted Text
Hey folks,
this will be my entry, a Revell Panther G early version in Braille scale with Part PE Zimmerit, Voyager Model PE and AM barrel (don't know which one, yet as I have an RB and an Aber one). Still debating whether to buy OKB resin tracks...
This is my very first campaign, and I'm über excited.
Cheers!
Hey Nicolas,
I just built the same kit. The tracks are pretty nice, really. There is no real need to run out and buy resin replacements unless you are desperate to. The one thing I found though was that the individual links do need a little subtle persuasion to fit around the drive sprockets, but only ever so slightly....
Cheers
Matthew
PantherF
Joined: June 10, 2005
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Posted: Sunday, November 16, 2014 - 10:22 PM UTC
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Would a Normandie Panther G have had the rain guard between turret and gun mantle?
Those were introduced in August of '44. So I would say no to that.
Jeff
rolltide31
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Joined: June 27, 2010
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Posted: Monday, November 17, 2014 - 03:17 AM UTC
Hi all, I have been trying to post an update for the past couple of days but have been unable to post my photos to the Kit Maker Photo Album.
Anyway, my time on the bench has been limited but she is coming along slowly. I am slowly getting the turret complete and should be moving on to the tools here within the week. The track is complete as I am using Fruil Tracks for this build.
All of the builds are looking great and I am learning from each of you as we continue this campaign. Thanks for letting me participate.
Dave
Anyway, my time on the bench has been limited but she is coming along slowly. I am slowly getting the turret complete and should be moving on to the tools here within the week. The track is complete as I am using Fruil Tracks for this build.
All of the builds are looking great and I am learning from each of you as we continue this campaign. Thanks for letting me participate.
Dave
Motives
Joined: October 15, 2013
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Posted: Monday, November 17, 2014 - 04:03 AM UTC
Got the first of the tool racks finished today:
I need to consult my reference (IE. google) but I suspect there should be some kind of brackets holding the handles of the cutter in place.
I need to consult my reference (IE. google) but I suspect there should be some kind of brackets holding the handles of the cutter in place.
panzerbob01
Joined: March 06, 2010
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Posted: Monday, November 17, 2014 - 07:14 AM UTC
Johan L.;
About those wire-cutter handle ends...
You are right. There was often a simple metal band across between and under those handle-ends - a flat bar or strap which curved up and around the ends to form a sort of holder or keeper. This was not, however, universal to all Wehrmacht vehicles - these cutters were clamped in place pretty firmly by the evident tool-clasp. There were also, in some cases, pins located between the jaws and/or behind (to the handle-side) the jaw-head which served to position the cutter, with the clasp serving to hold it in against or over these pins. The one thing you can be sure of... these cutters did NOT just loosely swing around and wiggle out of their clamps!
Losing the tools was frowned upon!
Bob
About those wire-cutter handle ends...
You are right. There was often a simple metal band across between and under those handle-ends - a flat bar or strap which curved up and around the ends to form a sort of holder or keeper. This was not, however, universal to all Wehrmacht vehicles - these cutters were clamped in place pretty firmly by the evident tool-clasp. There were also, in some cases, pins located between the jaws and/or behind (to the handle-side) the jaw-head which served to position the cutter, with the clasp serving to hold it in against or over these pins. The one thing you can be sure of... these cutters did NOT just loosely swing around and wiggle out of their clamps!
Losing the tools was frowned upon!
Bob
woltersk
Joined: May 27, 2003
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Posted: Monday, November 17, 2014 - 09:32 AM UTC
"Give up Glacis Plate! We have you surrounded!" Clamped that sucker down to ensure it dried flat and true against the chassis underneath. Not sure why Dragon went this route with the front end assembly.
Replaced the hooks and handles with different diameter wire.
More to come.
Keith
Replaced the hooks and handles with different diameter wire.
More to come.
Keith
ColinEdm
Associate EditorJoined: October 15, 2013
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Posted: Monday, November 17, 2014 - 09:40 AM UTC
Upper hull and turret done and ready for primer, test fit to lower hull, some warpage issues to deal with...
Added some battle scars...
onto the footwork!
Added some battle scars...
onto the footwork!
woltersk
Joined: May 27, 2003
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Posted: Monday, November 17, 2014 - 09:48 AM UTC
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A pretty fiddly and delicate job... I think I will have to change my assembly order and get the upper and lower hull assembled before adding any more of the PE detail or it's bound to be breakage from handling!
Hmmm...makes sense and is good to know. Thanks Johan. I will plan accordingly.
This Dragon kit is the most PE intensive model I have tried building. I've taken to working on the PE at the kitchen counter. I don't know why, but I prefer standing at the high surface vs slumped over a low workbench.
The lighting is good, the 'peninsula' breakfast counter has ample room, there is plenty of real estate for flying parts to land on, and there is no carpet for a monster to reside in and eat the pieces that do hit the floor.
Keith
PantherF
Joined: June 10, 2005
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Posted: Monday, November 17, 2014 - 11:39 AM UTC
You guys are flying at a record pace on your builds here and I am so impressed! So much progress.
Take it easy and don't burn out, hope to join in soon!
Jeff
Take it easy and don't burn out, hope to join in soon!
Jeff
Bonaparte84
Joined: July 17, 2013
KitMaker: 338 posts
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Posted: Monday, November 17, 2014 - 01:30 PM UTC
Quoted Text
Quoted TextWould a Normandie Panther G have had the rain guard between turret and gun mantle?
Those were introduced in August of '44. So I would say no to that.
Jeff
That was quick, thanks Jeff! Still, I think it's about time I get myself some proper reference material. Google is not always that helpful when it comes down to details...
Motives
Joined: October 15, 2013
KitMaker: 444 posts
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Posted: Monday, November 17, 2014 - 01:38 PM UTC
Quoted Text
Johan L.;
About those wire-cutter handle ends...
You are right. There was often a simple metal band across between and under those handle-ends - a flat bar or strap which curved up and around the ends to form a sort of holder or keeper. This was not, however, universal to all Wehrmacht vehicles - these cutters were clamped in place pretty firmly by the evident tool-clasp. There were also, in some cases, pins located between the jaws and/or behind (to the handle-side) the jaw-head which served to position the cutter, with the clasp serving to hold it in against or over these pins. The one thing you can be sure of... these cutters did NOT just loosely swing around and wiggle out of their clamps!
Losing the tools was frowned upon!
Bob
Thanks for the info Bob!
Bonaparte84
Joined: July 17, 2013
KitMaker: 338 posts
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Posted: Monday, November 17, 2014 - 01:42 PM UTC
Quoted Text
Quoted TextHey folks,
this will be my entry, a Revell Panther G early version in Braille scale with Part PE Zimmerit, Voyager Model PE and AM barrel (don't know which one, yet as I have an RB and an Aber one). Still debating whether to buy OKB resin tracks...
This is my very first campaign, and I'm über excited.
Cheers!
Hey Nicolas,
I just built the same kit. The tracks are pretty nice, really. There is no real need to run out and buy resin replacements unless you are desperate to. The one thing I found though was that the individual links do need a little subtle persuasion to fit around the drive sprockets, but only ever so slightly....
Cheers
Matthew
Hey Matthew,
I saw your build and you did a great job! About the tracks, there are two things that kind of annoy me. First of all, the Revell tracks are too large. They use 14 track links where the real thing would have had 17. That's rougly a 17 % difference, and now that I know it, I really see it...
More importantly, L & L tracks are a giant PITA in that scale. Gluing first makes it easier to mount, but then painting (with a paintbrush in my case) is really annoying. Or you paint first and mount later, but paint and glue don't work well together in that order. Not to mention that sagging tracks take even more even patience and time.
I think I'll go with the resin tracks and use my (scarce) time for detailing...
What filler will you use for the gaps between tank and Zimmerit? Have only tried diluted Mr. White Putty so far. It works but needs quite a lot of cleanup afterwards...
wedgetail53
Joined: October 02, 2008
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Posted: Monday, November 17, 2014 - 01:53 PM UTC
G'day fellas
Well, the beast is finally complete. Front view:
Rear:
Left side:
Commander:
Everything was built basically out of the box. The commander, is, I think, a Miniart figure with a Verlinden head and Archer badges.
The only additions were the Aber antenna and an Archer decal on the fire extinguisher.
Painting was Tamiya acrylics with a Burnt Umber wash and a touch of Tamiya weathering pastels here and there.
Regards
Rob
Well, the beast is finally complete. Front view:
Rear:
Left side:
Commander:
Everything was built basically out of the box. The commander, is, I think, a Miniart figure with a Verlinden head and Archer badges.
The only additions were the Aber antenna and an Archer decal on the fire extinguisher.
Painting was Tamiya acrylics with a Burnt Umber wash and a touch of Tamiya weathering pastels here and there.
Regards
Rob
ZAPanzer
Joined: September 12, 2012
KitMaker: 88 posts
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Posted: Monday, November 17, 2014 - 02:02 PM UTC
Wow Rob
Very nice indeed, congrats.
Cheers
Rob
Very nice indeed, congrats.
Cheers
Rob
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