I thought I had posted it but cannot seem to find it so here it is I should be able to get in some bench time tonight
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IronOwl
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Posted: Saturday, November 29, 2014 - 04:09 PM UTC
hello all here is my start pic
I thought I had posted it but cannot seem to find it so here it is I should be able to get in some bench time tonight
Sascha(Ironowl)
I thought I had posted it but cannot seem to find it so here it is I should be able to get in some bench time tonight
Sascha(Ironowl)
rolltide31
#377
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Posted: Saturday, November 29, 2014 - 07:15 PM UTC
hi all,
need to ask for some advice. While completing the final steps prior to going into the paint booth I noticed that I had an issue. Following the instructions provided in the Eduard PE kit I removed the kit front fenders. Well while trying to mount the PE fenders I noticed that they are too narrow.
Below is a comparison picture between the kit fenders and the PE fenders.
As you can see there is a difference of a couple mm's which becomes quite evident when mounted on the tanks as seen in the picture below.
So any suggestions on how to fix this problem? I was thinking of soldering a piece of excess brass to the outside. The issue with that is how do I then add the lip than hangs down and all on damaged front fenders.
Does anyone know of AM kits for just the fenders?
ok, so let the suggestions come flying!!!
thanks
Dave
need to ask for some advice. While completing the final steps prior to going into the paint booth I noticed that I had an issue. Following the instructions provided in the Eduard PE kit I removed the kit front fenders. Well while trying to mount the PE fenders I noticed that they are too narrow.
Below is a comparison picture between the kit fenders and the PE fenders.
As you can see there is a difference of a couple mm's which becomes quite evident when mounted on the tanks as seen in the picture below.
So any suggestions on how to fix this problem? I was thinking of soldering a piece of excess brass to the outside. The issue with that is how do I then add the lip than hangs down and all on damaged front fenders.
Does anyone know of AM kits for just the fenders?
ok, so let the suggestions come flying!!!
thanks
Dave
gishman32
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Posted: Saturday, November 29, 2014 - 11:58 PM UTC
Enjoying the Panther build so did start another one earlier this week.
I always love the IR Panthers so I am going to add the older Dragon IR viewers to the great Panther G Late kit. Not going to do anything fancy as far as PE, just OOB.
The lower hull has already been completed and work has moved on to the upper hull.
Seeing that this will be a 'what-if' Panther, for a paint job, I am going to try the 'Octopus' pattern or maybe just come up with one on my own (possibly a splinter pattern.
I always love the IR Panthers so I am going to add the older Dragon IR viewers to the great Panther G Late kit. Not going to do anything fancy as far as PE, just OOB.
The lower hull has already been completed and work has moved on to the upper hull.
Seeing that this will be a 'what-if' Panther, for a paint job, I am going to try the 'Octopus' pattern or maybe just come up with one on my own (possibly a splinter pattern.
Nito74
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Posted: Sunday, November 30, 2014 - 01:11 AM UTC
Update:
ZAPanzer
Joined: September 12, 2012
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Posted: Sunday, November 30, 2014 - 04:39 PM UTC
Hi
Here is my start picture for the campaign, I was going to do a Tamiya Panther G.
But with all my campaigns and a new addition to the family due in Jan I think I'm going to change to this, a much simpler kit and OOB.
Here is my start picture for the campaign, I was going to do a Tamiya Panther G.
But with all my campaigns and a new addition to the family due in Jan I think I'm going to change to this, a much simpler kit and OOB.
PantherF
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Posted: Sunday, November 30, 2014 - 04:47 PM UTC
Looking good guys... Dave, Greg and John!
Very nice choice Robert.
Jeff
Very nice choice Robert.
Jeff
Motives
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Posted: Sunday, November 30, 2014 - 07:57 PM UTC
So much cool stuff going on in the thread so all I can say is: Awesome job everyone!
David: I suppose one idea would be to scratch a fender from brass or aluminum sheet? Might be to fidley though
Weird though, are you sure the eduard set is for your kit? Maybe you could buy a new set and then save all the extra goodies for another build?
I got the primer coat on. Used vallejos dunkelgelb. I think it looks the part and has a nice greenish tint. It's a bit dark for use as a base coat but i'll lighten it a bit with the next layer. Sorry for the bad picture, I'm getting a new phone soon...
Kind of happy with the coverage, I got some dust speckles trapped but thats what you get sitting next to the tumble dryer (I have a hard time convincing my wife to do less laundry for some reason). I am setting up a new paint station in the boiler room that will hopefully lead to a more dust and fibre free environment...
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ok, so let the suggestions come flying!!!
thanks
Dave
David: I suppose one idea would be to scratch a fender from brass or aluminum sheet? Might be to fidley though
Weird though, are you sure the eduard set is for your kit? Maybe you could buy a new set and then save all the extra goodies for another build?I got the primer coat on. Used vallejos dunkelgelb. I think it looks the part and has a nice greenish tint. It's a bit dark for use as a base coat but i'll lighten it a bit with the next layer. Sorry for the bad picture, I'm getting a new phone soon...
Kind of happy with the coverage, I got some dust speckles trapped but thats what you get sitting next to the tumble dryer (I have a hard time convincing my wife to do less laundry for some reason). I am setting up a new paint station in the boiler room that will hopefully lead to a more dust and fibre free environment...
PantherF
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Posted: Sunday, November 30, 2014 - 08:35 PM UTC
I always do a quick wipe down and a few passes with some canned air before I prime N paint.
That is, if I DO get to the paint stage. Nice work Johan.
Jeff
That is, if I DO get to the paint stage. Nice work Johan.
Jeff
rolltide31
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Posted: Sunday, November 30, 2014 - 08:45 PM UTC
Johan,
Unfortunately my scratchbuilding skills are less than adequate for this purpose. I tried splitting the current fenders in half and soldering in a length of PE sprue but it was a dismal failure.
According to the Package they are for the Tamiya Panther G Early so it is supposed to be the right fender.
I found some aber fenders that are at a reasonable price so I am going to try those out.
thanks for the comments.
Your work is looking great.
Dave
Unfortunately my scratchbuilding skills are less than adequate for this purpose. I tried splitting the current fenders in half and soldering in a length of PE sprue but it was a dismal failure.
According to the Package they are for the Tamiya Panther G Early so it is supposed to be the right fender.
I found some aber fenders that are at a reasonable price so I am going to try those out.
thanks for the comments.
Your work is looking great.
Dave
woltersk
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Posted: Monday, December 01, 2014 - 08:26 AM UTC
@Dave--hmmm...that is a tough one. Hopefully the new replacements will work. The rest of the two builds look good though.
@Greg--your Panther looks good to me--clean build, nice camo job, subtle weathering. I can only wish the same for mine.
@John--good looking turm. Can't wait to see the rest.
Also looking forward to watching all the others progress!
Keith
@Greg--your Panther looks good to me--clean build, nice camo job, subtle weathering. I can only wish the same for mine.
@John--good looking turm. Can't wait to see the rest.
Also looking forward to watching all the others progress!
Keith
IronOwl
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Posted: Monday, December 01, 2014 - 08:44 AM UTC
Quick Update steps 1 and 2 are done gonna take a few days before step three.
Sascha(Ironowl)
Sascha(Ironowl)
gishman32
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Posted: Monday, December 01, 2014 - 08:47 AM UTC
Thanks Keith. I tend to be critical. I am jealous of your PE. I swear, always seems like when I get PE looking good, I sneeze hard and all the little wee bits go flying.
Looking forward to the completion of yours.
Looking forward to the completion of yours.
woltersk
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Posted: Monday, December 01, 2014 - 08:53 AM UTC
One last fix to the Dragon kit. Actually two, but one was due to an error on my part.
Looking at step 6, I thought part E16 would be attached after the stowage bin was installed. But the rear light panel (E16) has a weirdly shaped tab that was meant to go into the stowage bin before the stowage bin is attached to the hull. It wouldn't fit otherwise. It was easier to cut off the original tab and replace it with a bit of sheet styrene.
While working on the periscopes on the clear plastic sprue, I noticed part L2 which is the clear rear light. I removed the solid plastic bulb, replaced the 'brackets' with sheet styrene, and now it is ready for the clear bulb after painting.
Keith
Looking at step 6, I thought part E16 would be attached after the stowage bin was installed. But the rear light panel (E16) has a weirdly shaped tab that was meant to go into the stowage bin before the stowage bin is attached to the hull. It wouldn't fit otherwise. It was easier to cut off the original tab and replace it with a bit of sheet styrene.
While working on the periscopes on the clear plastic sprue, I noticed part L2 which is the clear rear light. I removed the solid plastic bulb, replaced the 'brackets' with sheet styrene, and now it is ready for the clear bulb after painting.
Keith
woltersk
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Posted: Monday, December 01, 2014 - 09:13 AM UTC
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I got the primer coat on. Used vallejos dunkelgelb. I think it looks the part and has a nice greenish tint. It's a bit dark for use as a base coat but i'll lighten it a bit with the next layer. Sorry for the bad picture, I'm getting a new phone soon...
@Johan--Twins!!
Keith
Motives
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Posted: Monday, December 01, 2014 - 09:09 PM UTC
@Keith - That's uncanny
What version will you paint up? I'll do one of the Kursk 1943 markings. Right now leaning towards the "745"!
Nice job on the extra detail to the rear light, worth the effort
What version will you paint up? I'll do one of the Kursk 1943 markings. Right now leaning towards the "745"!
Nice job on the extra detail to the rear light, worth the effort
retiredyank
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Posted: Monday, December 01, 2014 - 09:14 PM UTC
I may be back in. Joe Osborne is sending me Italeri's Bergepanther. My only concern is the Verlinden update set being unavailable. I'm hoping I will have enough time to build an accurate representation.
PantherF
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Posted: Tuesday, December 02, 2014 - 04:16 AM UTC
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I may be back in. Joe Osborne is sending me Italeri's Bergepanther. My only concern is the Verlinden update set being unavailable. I'm hoping I will have enough time to build an accurate representation.
That's great news!
Way to go Joe!
Jeff
woltersk
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Posted: Tuesday, December 02, 2014 - 06:20 AM UTC
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@Keith - That's uncanny
What version will you paint up? I'll do one of the Kursk 1943 markings. Right now leaning towards the "745"!
Nice job on the extra detail to the rear light, worth the effort
@Johan--Not too uncanny. I saw your photo setup and mimicked it.
Now, the fact that we have identical builds and both own Tamiya paint stands is very uncanny! I'm thinking of going with the Pz. Rgt. "Grossdeutschland", Karachev 1943 nr. 124. It has the most tri-color (without the stripes) of the kit offerings. I'm not sure about the Panther 'turret art' decal though.
Keith
Nito74
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Posted: Tuesday, December 02, 2014 - 09:14 PM UTC
Update,
alewar
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Posted: Wednesday, December 03, 2014 - 02:35 AM UTC
Hi
Almost done, only few details and waiting for the Mig paint to prime it and finish.
Regards
Alvaro
Almost done, only few details and waiting for the Mig paint to prime it and finish.
Regards
Alvaro
Arizonakid
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Posted: Wednesday, December 03, 2014 - 03:44 AM UTC
Quoted Text
hi all,
need to ask for some advice.
* * * * * * * * *
So any suggestions on how to fix this problem? I was thinking of soldering a piece of excess brass to the outside. The issue with that is how do I then add the lip than hangs down and all on damaged front fenders.
Does anyone know of AM kits for just the fenders?
ok, so let the suggestions come flying!!!
thanks
Dave
Hi Dave:
It's a nice looking panther, and hopefully the Aber set will do the trick. But there is one thing I see that might help. That is that you seem to have the fender to far over towards the centerline of the vehicle. The fenders on a panther also had a verticle piece that was outside the hull side wall flange that the tow shackles hook on to. And it looks in the photos like you have the fender completely covering that sidewall flange, and the fender should not be covering any part of that piece.
HTH Gary
wedgetail53
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Posted: Wednesday, December 03, 2014 - 04:41 AM UTC
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I may be back in. Joe Osborne is sending me Italeri's Bergepanther. My only concern is the Verlinden update set being unavailable. I'm hoping I will have enough time to build an accurate representation.
Matt
Have fun with that - given the small mountain of Bergepanther info I have collected, if I can be of assistance, please drop me a line.
Incidentally, I just checked my two most used Aussie on line stores, and they don't have the Verlinden update set either.
Regards
Rob
PS You might like to try military-resin.com - they may have one.
rolltide31
#377
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Posted: Wednesday, December 03, 2014 - 07:36 PM UTC
Gary,
I reviewed the pictures and see what you mean but the pictures are misleading as I took the photo from a left angle. The fenders are actually butted up against the flange you mentions. When comparing the eduard fender to the part fender you can clearly see the eduard part being to narrow.
I ordered some aber fenders which will require a little modification as they are for the G/F models but at this point I am out of options.
So that being said, I have put the twins off to the side for a little while as this issue took the winds out of my sails.
Where in Alabama are you from? I'm originally from Alabaster
Thanks for the advice.
Dave
I reviewed the pictures and see what you mean but the pictures are misleading as I took the photo from a left angle. The fenders are actually butted up against the flange you mentions. When comparing the eduard fender to the part fender you can clearly see the eduard part being to narrow.
I ordered some aber fenders which will require a little modification as they are for the G/F models but at this point I am out of options.
So that being said, I have put the twins off to the side for a little while as this issue took the winds out of my sails.
Where in Alabama are you from? I'm originally from Alabaster
Thanks for the advice.
Dave
Motives
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Posted: Thursday, December 04, 2014 - 12:39 AM UTC
Here's where I'm at:
The turret received a bit of a highlight. I'll do the same to the upper hull next.
Lower hull got too dark, need to do something there. I think I will go over it with some pure dunkelgelb and lighten it a bit
The barrel is supposed to be a new replacement that is yet to be painted, I plan to darken it a bit with washes and then give it a satin coat
Also, i primed and base coated all the other small bits and bobs so not that far from starting assembly and weathering
/J
The turret received a bit of a highlight. I'll do the same to the upper hull next.
Lower hull got too dark, need to do something there. I think I will go over it with some pure dunkelgelb and lighten it a bit
The barrel is supposed to be a new replacement that is yet to be painted, I plan to darken it a bit with washes and then give it a satin coat
Also, i primed and base coated all the other small bits and bobs so not that far from starting assembly and weathering
/J
ColinEdm
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Posted: Friday, December 05, 2014 - 08:50 AM UTC
Got the upper and lower hulls of my Lake Balaton 'G' joined together, needs a bit more flat coat then on to final bits and bobs and weathering. Playing around with a new camera right now so apologies for the quality of the photos.
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