I did some touch up in the road wheels. Wouldn't the inner road wheel edge be metallic looking because the guide horns were rubbing on that edge? So maybe some XF-56 metallic grey?
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Thirian24
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Posted: Sunday, March 13, 2016 - 12:45 AM UTC
Tat - that's good to know. Thank you.
I did some touch up in the road wheels. Wouldn't the inner road wheel edge be metallic looking because the guide horns were rubbing on that edge? So maybe some XF-56 metallic grey?
I did some touch up in the road wheels. Wouldn't the inner road wheel edge be metallic looking because the guide horns were rubbing on that edge? So maybe some XF-56 metallic grey?
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Posted: Sunday, March 13, 2016 - 01:04 AM UTC
I've also been tossing the idea around of adding stowage.
What's your thoughts on this?
What's your thoughts on this?
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Tat - that's good to know. Thank you.
I did some touch up in the road wheels. Wouldn't the inner road wheel edge be metallic looking because the guide horns were rubbing on that edge? So maybe some XF-56 metallic grey?
Correct. On a Panther the inner road wheels had the paint worn off and were not only bare metal but shiny almost chrome looking.
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Posted: Sunday, March 13, 2016 - 01:24 AM UTC
Ok great. Thank you sir. I have come chrome silver that would probably work well.
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Posted: Sunday, March 13, 2016 - 01:24 AM UTC
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I've also been tossing the idea around of adding stowage.
What's your thoughts on this?
It was not uncommon on German tanks to see crew helmets hung on the outside. Ammo crates on the rear deck also add to the visual appeal, especially if one of the crates is open and some rounds are exposed, as if the crew were in the process of resupplying their ammo load. You could also hang a bucket off the rear from one of the exhaust or the towing shackle.
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Posted: Sunday, March 13, 2016 - 01:27 AM UTC
I seen a lot of pictures with exposed ammo in the crates. That's a great idea. Also the buckets, but I don't believe I have one. I also seen a lot of them had small wrapped up cable hung on stuff. I need to try and find some of that.
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Posted: Sunday, March 13, 2016 - 04:44 AM UTC
If you're not too picky, try the Tamiya Jerry Can set (35026). It has 4 buckets. Be wary though as there's a Tamiya Fuel Drum set which has none. I made that mistake before and was about to write Mr. Tamiya a nasty note till told otherwise! 
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Posted: Sunday, March 13, 2016 - 06:02 AM UTC
Ok I did a bit of stowage mock up. Let me know what you guys think. Too much? Needs a bit more? Let me know what you think about that wrapped up cable at the rear.
Tat- thanks for that info. I think I'll go without the bucket unless I can pick one up soon.
Cheers,
Dustin
Tat- thanks for that info. I think I'll go without the bucket unless I can pick one up soon.
Cheers,
Dustin
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Thirian24
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Posted: Sunday, March 13, 2016 - 07:18 AM UTC
I painted the edges of the inner road wheels. The two closest to the front are painted in Metallic grey XF-56 and the last two are painted in X-11. It's hard to tell from the pictures but the rear two are shinier. Thoughts on which to continue with?
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Posted: Sunday, March 13, 2016 - 07:34 AM UTC
I'd go for the less shinier one, metallic grey. Agree it gets scraped to metal but I don't think it should be have that sheen as if chromed. Here's how you may do the mount for the spare wheels:
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Posted: Sunday, March 13, 2016 - 07:41 AM UTC
Thank you for that picture of the mount. How would I go about doing that?
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Thank you for that picture of the mount. How would I go about doing that?
The 3 stubs are threaded rod welded to the turret. They line up with 3 of the bolt holes on the rim of the wheel. I would reproduce this by simply glueing 3 styrene rods with bolt ends from mig or somebody directly to the top of the wheel...and glue the wheel to the turret. Know what I mean?
Heck, even just the bolt heads glued to the rim, and glue the rim to the turret...that should do the trick!
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Posted: Sunday, March 13, 2016 - 08:28 AM UTC
I'd stick in a bit of stretched sprue. Note that this is a field mod so you can be as creative how you do the hanger, within the bounds of what's plausible of course. Cheers
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Posted: Sunday, March 13, 2016 - 08:46 AM UTC
I would lose the 250L drum. The open ammo boxes look good. You might want to paint a white cross on the side of the Jerry can to represent a water instead of a fuel can. See if maybe you can find a pair of binoculars and add a foil or paper neck strap and lay it on the turret along wit maybe a signal pistol or map case.
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Posted: Sunday, March 13, 2016 - 09:08 AM UTC
Dave and Tat - Thank you for the ideas on the road wheels. I'll look into buying some bolt heads.
Armorsmith - I'll remove the drum and I found the binoculars and signal pistol. I seen on the box art that the water can had the white cross on it. I'll mask it and paint that on.
I have gold paint, will that work for the rounds? Or do I need to get some brass paint?
Armorsmith - I'll remove the drum and I found the binoculars and signal pistol. I seen on the box art that the water can had the white cross on it. I'll mask it and paint that on.
I have gold paint, will that work for the rounds? Or do I need to get some brass paint?
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Posted: Sunday, March 13, 2016 - 03:54 PM UTC
A lot of people get fixated on AM brass rounds, but by the time the Panther came into widespread service, the Germans were chronically short of copper (indeed all metals)and were reserving it for absolute necessity. They were issuing steel shellcases (well greased!) to the artillery and to tank units. They even tried steel shellcases on SAA, but this caused jamming in machine guns if the ammo got at all rusty.
Bright silver will be fine.
As for the bright steel on the inner roadwheels, try this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsodIneQGzI
Bright silver will be fine.
As for the bright steel on the inner roadwheels, try this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsodIneQGzI
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Posted: Sunday, March 13, 2016 - 05:17 PM UTC
You don't need to mask the white cross on the fuel can. These were often just hand painted so the cross does not have to be too neat.
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Posted: Sunday, March 13, 2016 - 06:59 PM UTC
Steve, Armorsmith - Thank you fellas! This gives insight that I need.
Cheers,
Dustin
Cheers,
Dustin
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Ok I did a bit of stowage mock up. Let me know what you guys think. Too much? Needs a bit more? Let me know what you think about that wrapped up cable at the rear.
Tat- thanks for that info. I think I'll go without the bucket unless I can pick one up soon.
Cheers,
Dustin
Quick thought--the two exhaust pipes would be rusted due to the extreme heat of the exhaust system, which blistered the paint off very quickly, but the two skinny pipes on the left would not, as they are cooling air intake pipes that cooled the exhaust manifold. This prevented explosions in the exhaust system when the engine was shut off abruptly, as cool, oxygen-rich air could intrude into the exhaust system, and mix with hot, unburned gasoline fumes (the carburetors were very inefficient). This was a quick fix introduced on the Ausf A until the exhaust system could be fully redesigned.
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Posted: Monday, March 14, 2016 - 04:27 AM UTC
Gerald - Thank you for that knowledge. That's very interesting and I appreciate that. I haven't made it as far as to paint the exhaust yet.
Cheers,
Dustin
Cheers,
Dustin
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Posted: Monday, March 21, 2016 - 08:18 AM UTC
I painted the ammo crates and exhaust. I also drilled holes in the exhaust and intake pipes.
Cheers,
Dustin
Cheers,
Dustin
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Posted: Tuesday, March 29, 2016 - 04:10 AM UTC
I think I'm about ready for some clear. Besides maybe some chipping.
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Posted: Tuesday, March 29, 2016 - 04:28 AM UTC
I like the camo,very nice.
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Posted: Tuesday, March 29, 2016 - 06:21 AM UTC
Anthony, thank you very much for the kind words.
I added some chipping and the tow cable and the cable for repairing the tracks. Those will get some weathering after the clear.
Now for clear and weathering.
Cheers,
Dustin
I added some chipping and the tow cable and the cable for repairing the tracks. Those will get some weathering after the clear.
Now for clear and weathering.
Cheers,
Dustin
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