Could I get a extension?
model before worried
model after I explained to it I would get him finished for sure.
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Mrclark7
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Posted: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 - 10:27 AM UTC
Clayton My model was worried it would not get finished by me in time. It looked unhappy, I told it I would ask for an extension of a week at most, and it became very happy.
Could I get a extension?
model before worried
model after I explained to it I would get him finished for sure.
Could I get a extension?
model before worried
model after I explained to it I would get him finished for sure.
petbat
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Posted: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 - 01:51 PM UTC
Nearly wet myself Kelly !
petbat
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Posted: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 - 01:55 PM UTC
Looking great Jesper. Really coming together now.
You too Lap Man. Very interesting subject.
Thanks Clayton. Hopefully I will not need that long, just a couple of days past the deadline.
You too Lap Man. Very interesting subject.
Thanks Clayton. Hopefully I will not need that long, just a couple of days past the deadline.
petbat
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Posted: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 - 01:59 PM UTC
Kelly. Not exactly sure what you are using for the pin washes, but thinned enamel paints work the best for me, especially over acrylics. Acrylics tend to dry too quick and do not flow as well. Also, if you wash over a matt finish, the wash will bleed out. Over gloss it will only stay in the deeper crevices unless you use too much, in which case it will run.
Have a google around and you will see how other modellers do it. e.g.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23Cg2Y31DKA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwxlB0aFjJo
Have a google around and you will see how other modellers do it. e.g.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23Cg2Y31DKA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwxlB0aFjJo
ClaytonFromEllijay
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Posted: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 - 06:14 PM UTC
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Clayton My model was worried it would not get finished by me in time. It looked unhappy, I told it I would ask for an extension of a week at most, and it became very happy.
Could I get a extension?
model before worried
model after I explained to it I would get him finished for sure.
Keeping models happy, that's what we're all here for, Kelly!
Mrclark7
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Posted: Wednesday, July 26, 2017 - 12:14 AM UTC
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Kelly. Not exactly sure what you are using for the pin washes, but thinned enamel paints work the best for me, especially over acrylics. Acrylics tend to dry too quick and do not flow as well. Also, if you wash over a matt finish, the wash will bleed out. Over gloss it will only stay in the deeper crevices unless you use too much, in which case it will run.
Have a google around and you will see how other modellers do it. e.g.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23Cg2Y31DKA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwxlB0aFjJo
Peter, I think I am getting worked out finally. I used a Tamiya gloss lacquer and experimented with oil, acrylics and mig panel liners. I found a result that seems to be working for me.
Tonight the man body get pin washed. So should have pics tonight.
SGTJKJ
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Posted: Wednesday, July 26, 2017 - 08:12 PM UTC
I am calling these guys done. Games Workshop Paladors.
Comments welcome
Comments welcome
ClaytonFromEllijay
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Posted: Wednesday, July 26, 2017 - 09:19 PM UTC
They look great, Jesper! Lots of action in those molds, and some great colours. How big are they?
SGTJKJ
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Posted: Wednesday, July 26, 2017 - 11:54 PM UTC
Thanks for the comment.
They are approximately 8-10 cm (3,5-4") high. Quite well detailed for the scale.
They are approximately 8-10 cm (3,5-4") high. Quite well detailed for the scale.
ClaytonFromEllijay
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Posted: Thursday, July 27, 2017 - 12:55 AM UTC
Fun stuff, takes me back to my old Dungeon & Dragons days!
petbat
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Posted: Thursday, July 27, 2017 - 01:52 AM UTC
Jesper, they are excellent. You have really brought these to life. The colour choices really bring out the best in them. Very well done.
So as administrator for this group build, that makes you the Dungeon Master then Clayton. In that case, may I ask for a re-roll as I had some issues with my filters.
I have had the AK blue-green wash for Grey vehicles for a few years, having used it once before it was not fresh, and it appears the pigments had clumped somewhat over time, even after a lot of mixing. I didn't notice it until too late, so I have had to do some light sanding to take out as much of the gritty finish I could. A full strip back would mean I would likely dislodge so many fittings, so I took the other route. So back to fixing the base paint. Just as well I hadn't decalled yet.
This one might end up with a little more mud than usual...... although the pics of the vehicle I am doing does have a lot of mud in places.
Anyway, hopefully pics on the weekend
So as administrator for this group build, that makes you the Dungeon Master then Clayton. In that case, may I ask for a re-roll as I had some issues with my filters.
I have had the AK blue-green wash for Grey vehicles for a few years, having used it once before it was not fresh, and it appears the pigments had clumped somewhat over time, even after a lot of mixing. I didn't notice it until too late, so I have had to do some light sanding to take out as much of the gritty finish I could. A full strip back would mean I would likely dislodge so many fittings, so I took the other route. So back to fixing the base paint. Just as well I hadn't decalled yet.
This one might end up with a little more mud than usual...... although the pics of the vehicle I am doing does have a lot of mud in places.
Anyway, hopefully pics on the weekend
ClaytonFromEllijay
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Posted: Thursday, July 27, 2017 - 05:33 PM UTC
We have no problem with mud...
SGTJKJ
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Posted: Thursday, July 27, 2017 - 09:09 PM UTC
Thanks for the comment, Peter.
Mud is good - I am going to mud up an enormous sci-du tank which is very appropriately called the Mastodon. You can see it in the land ship campaign.
Looking forward to see your pictures.
Mud is good - I am going to mud up an enormous sci-du tank which is very appropriately called the Mastodon. You can see it in the land ship campaign.
Looking forward to see your pictures.
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Posted: Thursday, July 27, 2017 - 09:29 PM UTC
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Alex, I cannot see your pictures due to photobucket going haywire, but if your pictures of the finished kit is in the campaign photo gallery you will get your ribbon.
I'll get some pics in the gallery. If I can, I'll repost the gate pictures. That's what has really annoyed me about this whole Photobucket deal...it's completely wrecked a lot of build and campaign threads.
Part of the reason I went with the Miniart sets was to show some build tips and maybe get some builders who might have been chased away from them to try them out.
I'm going repost a couple of these builds (Truck & Trailer, Other Guys) but I'm not going to mess with most past campaigns. I've already pulled out of the Trumpeter and Artillery Campaigns.
I'll try to get those up this weekend.
Mrclark7
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Posted: Friday, July 28, 2017 - 05:29 AM UTC
Going to try and finish this up this weekend to try and make it under the original finish time.
This is my first attempt ever doing the lacquer finish to try and pin wash it. It made a difference and I just regret the multiple times and efforts wasted while trying to use the vallejo varnishes on other models. I am not sure yet if I like this way of doing it. I still need to add decals and then do a matt coat so I can then start with the pigments. I MIGHT try doing some oil before the matt coat also. I can totally see the benefit of using oils rights now. But it would be my first time also and might ruin things.
This is my first attempt ever doing the lacquer finish to try and pin wash it. It made a difference and I just regret the multiple times and efforts wasted while trying to use the vallejo varnishes on other models. I am not sure yet if I like this way of doing it. I still need to add decals and then do a matt coat so I can then start with the pigments. I MIGHT try doing some oil before the matt coat also. I can totally see the benefit of using oils rights now. But it would be my first time also and might ruin things.
Mrclark7
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Posted: Friday, July 28, 2017 - 05:42 AM UTC
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I am calling these guys done. Games Workshop Paladors.
Comments welcome
If I knew I could figures like this, I would be doing many. Great balance of colors.
petbat
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Posted: Friday, July 28, 2017 - 06:28 AM UTC
Hi Kelly
The whole point of modelling is to try different things and take the risks on maybe not getting the right result (like my SdKfz appears to be heading) but if you always take the safe path, you will never progress. Remember, all these new techniques were discovered by someone who ventured outside the playground boundaries in the first place.
One thing though, a varnish over the oils may actually hide the subtlety of the finish - and if it is an acrylic based varnish, it will not go well over the oils (think water on oil spills at the local garage...) Vehicles were not usually painted in dead flat paint as people think. The paint was more satin in finish which the oils will bring out. Check out my SdKfz 250/9 in the Half track in half a year gallery to get my point. Then check out the better finished models using the technique you can find on the internet
The whole point of modelling is to try different things and take the risks on maybe not getting the right result (like my SdKfz appears to be heading) but if you always take the safe path, you will never progress. Remember, all these new techniques were discovered by someone who ventured outside the playground boundaries in the first place.
One thing though, a varnish over the oils may actually hide the subtlety of the finish - and if it is an acrylic based varnish, it will not go well over the oils (think water on oil spills at the local garage...) Vehicles were not usually painted in dead flat paint as people think. The paint was more satin in finish which the oils will bring out. Check out my SdKfz 250/9 in the Half track in half a year gallery to get my point. Then check out the better finished models using the technique you can find on the internet
Bluestab
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Posted: Saturday, July 29, 2017 - 08:59 AM UTC
I uploaded a picture to the gallery. I just hated that the Photobucket thing ruined a lot of builds. I rehosted some pictures for other builds and hope to get some of the miniart builds done as well.
Peter, that looks really nice. I've almost bought that kit a few times and have enjoyed watching the build.
Jesper, Nice. Beyond that all I can say is, "Charge!!!!"
Lap, I really like that kit.
Peter, that looks really nice. I've almost bought that kit a few times and have enjoyed watching the build.
Jesper, Nice. Beyond that all I can say is, "Charge!!!!"
Lap, I really like that kit.
Mrclark7
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Posted: Sunday, July 30, 2017 - 09:18 AM UTC
This is pretty much it. I hope to get some outside pics tomorrow in better lighting.
I just wanted to get this posted in case I didnt get to before the 1st. Wanted to be done for the original finish date. The lacquer technique I ended up liking better than I thought at first. I did do pigments and it prevented me from trying the oils as it was already laid down on top.
So whats everyone best product to get rid of the decal silvering? Or just use dry transfers?
I just wanted to get this posted in case I didnt get to before the 1st. Wanted to be done for the original finish date. The lacquer technique I ended up liking better than I thought at first. I did do pigments and it prevented me from trying the oils as it was already laid down on top.
So whats everyone best product to get rid of the decal silvering? Or just use dry transfers?
Mrclark7
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Posted: Sunday, July 30, 2017 - 11:07 AM UTC
And yes, I am seriously pondering aftermarket bronco tracks.
Thanks again for the campaign. It makes talking about the builds better for me as I am bad focusing on my builds as a build only in the main AFV area.
Thanks again for the campaign. It makes talking about the builds better for me as I am bad focusing on my builds as a build only in the main AFV area.
ClaytonFromEllijay
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Posted: Sunday, July 30, 2017 - 05:44 PM UTC
Looks great Kelly, congrats on your finish! As for silvering decals, it helps to apply decals to a clear gloss coat, followed after drying with a clear matte or flat coat...
dtniedert
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Posted: Sunday, July 30, 2017 - 08:09 PM UTC
One week extension request sent.
petbat
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Posted: Monday, July 31, 2017 - 01:58 PM UTC
Looks great Kelly.
As Clayton said apply a good gloss coat first. Future floor polish is the choice of a lot of US modellers. This will ensure no air gets trapped behind the decal, which is what causes silvering. Flat paint is flat because it is actually rough as minusculeas it is, so it does not reflect the light evenly. Gloss is ultra smooth, so the decal sits perfectly against it.
I use Micro Sol and Micro set for my decals too. Brush the set on first, apply the decal and then the Sol over that to make it conform. Used it on the SdKfz decals, no silvering but the edge of the decal is noticeable at this stage. Can't help that. Speaking of which, this where I am up to. Started the weathering with a light dust coat. Will do some oil fading and streaking, pin washes, and then some mud. A lot to do by the end date....
Wheels are not fixed yet (you can see the resin pour plug mark in the front one!
As Clayton said apply a good gloss coat first. Future floor polish is the choice of a lot of US modellers. This will ensure no air gets trapped behind the decal, which is what causes silvering. Flat paint is flat because it is actually rough as minusculeas it is, so it does not reflect the light evenly. Gloss is ultra smooth, so the decal sits perfectly against it.
I use Micro Sol and Micro set for my decals too. Brush the set on first, apply the decal and then the Sol over that to make it conform. Used it on the SdKfz decals, no silvering but the edge of the decal is noticeable at this stage. Can't help that. Speaking of which, this where I am up to. Started the weathering with a light dust coat. Will do some oil fading and streaking, pin washes, and then some mud. A lot to do by the end date....
Wheels are not fixed yet (you can see the resin pour plug mark in the front one!
BoiseBlade
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Posted: Thursday, August 03, 2017 - 09:08 AM UTC
Well I actually painted this 2 weekends ago and took pictures just never posted them.
So here is the Paint parts all ready for assembly.
So here is the Paint parts all ready for assembly.
ClaytonFromEllijay
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Posted: Thursday, August 03, 2017 - 05:52 PM UTC
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Well I actually painted this 2 weekends ago and took pictures just never posted them.
So here is the Paint parts all ready for assembly.
I'm amazed you can keep track of all that, Jeff!
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