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Posted: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 - 11:12 AM UTC

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New Dream Model (I've got lots of 'em) - I'd LOVE to have a 1:35th scale Mighty Mite to add to my collection of armor and ancillary vehicles.

Gunnie


Man! I think yoou read my thoughts!!!!!!!!!! I love all military light vehicles. :-)
Regards BTW there is a pic of your mechanical mule out there?



Thought I put one here on GunTruck Gallery. If not, I have it on my personal website...

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Posted: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 - 12:15 PM UTC

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I've heard that the decal sheet is pretty nice for the 1/15 BullDog, but I haven't seen it. I do have the Mule, but actually like the DML/Dragon one better. I haven't considered the BullDog - is it a nice kit?

Yes, the decal sheet is oustanding, the kit sucks big time. If you ever run across the Renwal/Revell/Matchbox M-41, the kits share the same lineage. The 1/15 scale kit is more of a big toy, but the reissue does not include any motorization parts, some of which are necessary to build the model. Much like other Glencoe kits, this one has a decal sheet worth more than the plastic. Too bad there isn't anything worth putting them on.
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Posted: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 - 12:18 PM UTC

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I've heard that the decal sheet is pretty nice for the 1/15 BullDog, but I haven't seen it. I do have the Mule, but actually like the DML/Dragon one better. I haven't considered the BullDog - is it a nice kit?

Yes, the decal sheet is oustanding, the kit sucks big time. If you ever run across the Renwal/Revell/Matchbox M-41, the kits share the same lineage. The 1/15 scale kit is more of a big toy, but the reissue does not include any motorization parts, some of which are necessary to build the model. Much like other Glencoe kits, this one has a decal sheet worth more than the plastic. Too bad there isn't anything worth putting them on.



Tanks Rob! It sounds like getting a hold of the model for the decal sheet is worth it. Maybe it can be reduced and reproduced in 1:35 scale...

Gunnie
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Posted: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 - 12:22 PM UTC
Did some say Gama Goat?

http://www.rockymountainmodelclub.com/pictures/gallery/gammagoat.jpg
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Posted: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 - 02:15 PM UTC

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Did some say Gama Goat?


At one of the armor museums I might be going to in England you can get a ride on a Goat, thought this was interesting...
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Posted: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 - 10:16 PM UTC



Thanks Jim - I saw that little ditty there. Cookie Sewell scratched one too sometime ago, though I've never seen it. Poor thing is unloved and unmodeled

Gunnie
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Posted: Friday, February 22, 2002 - 05:04 PM UTC
Hi There
As far as i know the only available model of the Gama Goat is by Roco in 1:76 scale.
There was a vacform kit in 1:35 around in the 80s made by a german company but i've never seen one around.I did find some pics of one built on the net somewhere but i've lost the link.A friend of mine had one in 12" to the foot scale that i got to drive occaisionally and having seen it off road i can only say that it is an amazing little vehicle.A major scrap dealer over here had 3 in all with only 49 miles on the clock and had to de-militarize (destroy) them all (SHAME)
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Posted: Saturday, February 23, 2002 - 08:13 PM UTC
Pete---how do you like the 1/76 scale models?
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Posted: Saturday, February 23, 2002 - 09:07 PM UTC
Actually Roco models are 1/87 scale. Grab one of their Shermans or M1s and compare it to a like model in 1/76th or 1/72nd scale. You will see the difference.

That being said, their small scale armor is amazing. Too bad the tracks are normally solid roadwheel/sprocket/track pieces. Grab one of the miniscule HMMWVs to see some very fine works.
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Posted: Saturday, February 23, 2002 - 11:33 PM UTC
Hi there
I find that the 1:76 scale models are too small for me,i prefer to be able to see what i'm doing with the parts lol.I do build some mainly those that come from JB models over here in the UK ,they are superb no flash etc and easy to build.I'm waiting for their 105mm gun to arrive to go with my Landrover FC1201GS.hth
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Posted: Sunday, February 24, 2002 - 10:52 AM UTC
Hey, I've got an idea for an interesting model. How about a ' Wickum'. Anyone here know if this piece of armour is made?

Tread.
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Posted: Sunday, February 24, 2002 - 11:24 AM UTC
Anyone want to see some REALLY big dream models? Then check out this site
http://www.interdacom.ru/~tanks/ They've got 1/6th scale stuff, including an Iskander-E!
Just goes to show, anything is available for the right amount of pesos.

Tread.
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Posted: Monday, February 25, 2002 - 04:42 AM UTC
Hey, got another armour piece I'd like to see made....a Canadian UN Bison APC!
I believe it was used in Bosnia, around the Visoko region.

Tread.

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Posted: Monday, February 25, 2002 - 08:24 AM UTC
WW2 British armored cars anyone? Definatley more half tracks especially U.S.versions M4A2 sherman as well
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Posted: Monday, February 25, 2002 - 07:24 PM UTC
Zod--Didn't someone turn out a very expensive Staghound? Seems to me it was Accurate Armor. It may well have been a vacuformed kit. Regardless, it cost a bundle to get.
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Posted: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 - 12:27 AM UTC

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WW2 British armored cars anyone? Definatley more half tracks especially U.S.versions M4A2 sherman as well
Chad



Accurate Armor out of England produces WW II British Armored Cars - and in the hands of a skilled builder these babies are really nice looking. I'm with you too - MORE US Half-Tracks - how many more Sd.Kfz. 250's do we really need?!?

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Posted: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 - 12:41 AM UTC
I'm with you guys on that one - "more-halftracks"...and it not "more" how about at least some "Updated" ones!!! Seems all or most of the German early releases are getting some kind of update to the molds and some brand new molds too. As the norm with the industry, US model interest lags behind German ones. Some day...right????
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Posted: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 - 01:07 AM UTC
There is one kit I'm surprised that has not been manufactured as of yet.: The M19 with twin 40mm . This was the pre - M42 Duster's twin 40mm version. Only real difference is the M19 was based on the M24 Chaffee's chassis, while the M42 was based on the M41 Walker Bulldog's chassis.
I know it wasn't introduced until late in the war (and not that the allies had much to worry about as far as air-cover) but so was the M36, M26, and numerous German vehicles.
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Posted: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 - 01:18 AM UTC

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There is one kit I'm surprised that has not been manufactured as of yet.: The M19 with twin 40mm . This was the pre - M42 Duster's twin 40mm version. Only real difference is the M19 was based on the M24 Chaffee's chassis, while the M42 was based on the M41 Walker Bulldog's chassis.
I know it wasn't introduced until late in the war (and not that the allies had much to worry about as far as air-cover) but so was the M36, M26, and numerous German vehicles.
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Here - Here Ken! I agree wholeheartedly. I haven't heard anything towards the M19 either. Closest approach is Commander's Series M41 - but this is really expensive, and my example has so much clean-up ahead I think it would be easier to scratch/convert the Chaffee. The only one I've ever seen done in 1:35 was a scratch/conversion by Dave Khan at the 1994 IPMS/USA Nationals. Dave did a bang-up job on the miniature.

In my purely biased and unabashed opinion :-) the M19 was historically a more relevant vehicle than the German Goliath remote-controlled tankette - but there's been TWO 1:35 scale models of the Goliath done already - to none of the M19...

Gunnie
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Posted: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 - 01:48 AM UTC
Here's one I bet alot of you guys haven't heard of: The M45-105mm HMC, which was designed as a support vehicle to accompany the M26 with it's 90mm gun. It mounted a 105mm howitzer cannon on the same M26 chassis. It's role was much the same as the M8's and M4's with 105mm did for the M4's. It weighed a little over 45 tons with a 5 man crew...and had a very impressive 8" howitzer shield!!!

How's that for a "dream" model??? :-) :-)

I either love or hate this "dream model" topic!!
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Posted: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 - 02:11 AM UTC
Gunnie, ...and in a biased point of view...(taking a big roll here) most of the manufacturer's are from countries that were either pro-Greman or anti- American...(please, just my own personal opinion!!) Anyways, they seem to produce model replicas of vehicles that were so obscure it makes one wonder "hmmm...why????"
I know the majority of modelers build German vehicles for their "cool and "ahead of the times" camo patterns" - a painter's dream and or challenge!!! While most of these vehicle were built in desperate times for Germany, their numbers in production were miniscule at best! Yet manufacurers produce em!!!

Maybe it's just me, but boy' I wish the manufacturers would build more US vehicles which BTW were produced in massive numbers compared to the rest...There are so many versions of US vehicles that could be produced...and what better time!!!...
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Posted: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 - 02:37 AM UTC

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Here's one I bet alot of you guys haven't heard of: The M45-105mm HMC, which was designed as a support vehicle to accompany the M26 with it's 90mm gun. It mounted a 105mm howitzer cannon on the same M26 chassis. It's role was much the same as the M8's and M4's with 105mm did for the M4's. It weighed a little over 45 tons with a 5 man crew...and had a very impressive 8" howitzer shield!!!

How's that for a "dream" model??? :-) :-)

I either love or hate this "dream model" topic!!



You might be surprised at how many armor modelers would like a M45 conversion turret for their Pershing - and it might have come about earlier too if the base model hadn't been so hard to get. Pershings, for a while there, were like the Holy Grail of armor models right up there with the Italeri M7B1 Priest. This is doubly sad because the DML Pershing is a wonderful model kit - they did a bang-up job on it. I don't even want to build the Pershing I have right now, because I don't have a second as spare.

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Posted: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 - 02:39 AM UTC

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Here's one I bet alot of you guys haven't heard of: The M45-105mm HMC, which was designed as a support vehicle to accompany the M26 with it's 90mm gun. It mounted a 105mm howitzer cannon on the same M26 chassis. It's role was much the same as the M8's and M4's with 105mm did for the M4's. It weighed a little over 45 tons with a 5 man crew...and had a very impressive 8" howitzer shield!!!

Wasn't this done by Renwal and re-released by Revell as part of their History Makers series? I'll go check my kit in the garage tonight.
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Posted: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 - 02:46 AM UTC
Wow...Rob if this is true, than truely it's got the coveted "History Makers" cup...please do check. I would be woefully sad if I missed out on such a kit in my "away from" years!!! EEEK!!!
Say it ain't so...
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Posted: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 - 02:47 AM UTC

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Gunnie, ...and in a biased point of view...(taking a big roll here) most of the manufacturer's are from countries that were either pro-Greman or anti- American...(please, just my own personal opinion!!) Anyways, they seem to produce model replicas of vehicles that were so obscure it makes one wonder "hmmm...why????"
I know the majority of modelers build German vehicles for their "cool and "ahead of the times" camo patterns" - a painter's dream and or challenge!!! While most of these vehicle were built in desperate times for Germany, their numbers in production were miniscule at best! Yet manufacurers produce em!!!

Maybe it's just me, but boy' I wish the manufacturers would build more US vehicles which BTW were produced in massive numbers compared to the rest...There are so many versions of US vehicles that could be produced...and what better time!!!...



My feelings too - so I guess we roll that Big Die together!

It's not like I want every make and mark of the Sherman in kit form, but there are so many subjects that haven't been kitted for the sake of another Panther or Tiger that it's sad. When I go to the Hobby Shop to look around, and I see the kids come in with their parents, all I hear is them gravitating to the WW II German stuff. I can't even tell you how many times I was asked by a Dad or kid what the big deal is with the M18 Hell Cat - and why I'd build it before a Sd.Kfz. 251 half-track. These 'history lessons' make me feel like Rob sometimes :-) Learning history in school is why I got into US Armored Vehicles.

Guess I shouldn't complain - it's not like the History Channel plays unending WW II German documentaries around the clock in comparison to what's shown covering the 'other side' . Little wonder young 'ones only know about Me-262's and Tiger tanks...

Gunnie