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'Knocked Out' Campaign
ElCapitan
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Posted: Saturday, February 11, 2012 - 12:58 AM UTC
Duncan,

Yes, I use CA glue to keep the Verlinden pieces in place, but thankfully the CA glue bond can be broken. I've pulled out several pieces as I continue to learn about the placement of equipment and how a wet stowage configuration is set up inside the vehicle.

Phill,

The Verlinden kit isn't bad at all though it is made specifically for the Tamyia M4A3, so I've had to alter some pieces to make them fit. The good part is when it's all over and done with, what you will see through the open hatches should be a really good representation of what the interior looks like. At least that is my hope, now let's see if I can follow through on execution.

Now that I've been able to piece together several photos of what the wet ammo storage looks like, I can alter some more of the Verlinden pieces and scratch built some others like the sub-turret floor and the partial turret basket floor. That way it should be correct to the version that I'm building. A bit of a pain in the butt, but I think the effort will be well worth it in the long run.

Plus, I've ordered some AFV individual track links to replace the DS track that comes with the kit. That way I can replicate the correct track sag that I see in the photos, which I couldn't do with the DS track no matter how hard I tried.

Keep the good work and I'll post some more photos in a week or so.

thanks

Kevin
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Posted: Saturday, February 11, 2012 - 02:16 AM UTC
Hey guys some really great stuff happening here, looks real good ah i mean wrecked
@ Phill looks like some mess ya got on your hands there how many kits are you bashing in to 1 over there
looking forward to seeing more guys
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Posted: Saturday, February 11, 2012 - 06:59 PM UTC
Duncan .. not much fun if its to easy mate besides with so much detail missing something had to be done about making it at least look better even if it is a small amount . ya i'll admit ..went way past small

Kevin .. Oh thats good to hear .. think i'll have to take a look at that set sometime soon .

Sal ,,, ummmmm ,,well its 3 at this point but don't quote me on that ..that might change .

Phill
ElCapitan
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Posted: Friday, February 17, 2012 - 01:46 AM UTC
Good morning everyone. Here is a couple of photos to show where I am at with my M4A3.

This is a photo of the over all vehicle. I've got most of the exterior and interior completed at this point, but I still have a ways to go with some detail on the exterior, plus I have to build the AFV individual track links and then a little more detailing on the interior.


This shot is looking down through the hatches and since all the hatches are open, I like to have a good representation of the interior. The Verlinden kit I bought was for a M4 with dry ammo storage and from what I can tell, the wet ammo storage was set up differently so I've had to scratch build various pieces of the interior.


This shot shows the some of the scratch built interior pieces combined with some of the Verlinden pieces.


Due to some work issues, I think I will be ready for interior painting in a week or two. I'll post some more photos then.

thanks

Kevin
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Posted: Friday, February 17, 2012 - 09:47 AM UTC
Looking good Kevin, great work = I'm surprised how much interior is visible but it works really well.

I making progress here, which makes a change for me, be slowly chipping away.... put on a bit of pigment, nowhere near finished but I really please with my first attempt at weathering etc... basically I'm using the Hummel as a test-bed.

All comments welcome...
WARDUKWNZ
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Posted: Friday, February 17, 2012 - 09:56 AM UTC
Kevin .. very nice man .. its gonna be a shame its going to die ..but oh well

Duncan .. one comment .. it sucks !! mate ,, ,, its turning out bloody brilliant ,,congrats mate shes a beauty , this will look great when its done ,will be watching your build very closely from now on .

My little Marder will be attacked again shortly ..been busy as hell fixing peoples cars and today is no different . nothing hard ..a heater hose leaking .. hopefully that will be it for today .

Keep up the great work gents ..there looking great

Phill
ElCapitan
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Posted: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 - 12:19 PM UTC
Ducan,

That rust job on the Hummels gun is well done! How did you use to get it to look that way? I've tried a couple of products but haven't been satisfied with the outcome.

Thanks

Kevin
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Posted: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 - 10:02 PM UTC
I used 'Mig Pigments' Kevin on the gun and I've just moved onto the hull now.

The technique I've using is.....

1. Primed the Hummel with Tamiya rattle can semi-gloss black, which I let dry for over 48 hours.
2. Randomly sprayed a brown / hull red / black mix over the semi-gloss black, I concentrated the black in places then let that dry overnight.
3. I used liquid mask on some black sections I wanted to keep then a coat of hairspray, next some salt (next time I'll use more salt) let that try in the sun, its summer here soooo = quickly!
4. Sprayed on some Tamiya sand yellows built up with very fine layers, I streaked some white (with a tiny bit of yellow 59) on some areas too, I let that dry then sprayed the green camo on and set that aside till the following evening
5. Working on very small area's at a time using warm water I scratched away with a tooth-pick and some cut down brushes.
6. Once happy with these area's I added Mig Pigments with a very small/tiny brush mixing the various colour.... Old, Standard, Light, Fresh Rust


I still learning but I would give this advice go small with your scratching/brushing when using the hairspray technique as I you take to much of it doesn't look realistic and the same when applying the pigments.
I feel I may have over done some parts but hopefully weather and mud will cover some of this, also I think I would damage more area's and show more interior/engine parts next time.

As I mentioned I consider the Hummel a bit of a practice mule and I not getting to precious with it
= ... just enjoying myself.

Here's the Hummel as it stands at the moment...

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ElCapitan
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Posted: Thursday, February 23, 2012 - 12:31 AM UTC
Duncan,

Thanks for the information on the how to, I'll have to give that a try. You're Hummel is looking fantastic, keep up the good work.

Kevin
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Posted: Thursday, February 23, 2012 - 07:46 AM UTC
Duncan: The Hummel's really awesome. Good work and thanks for the SBS.

Happy Modelling, -zon
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Posted: Thursday, February 23, 2012 - 12:50 PM UTC
Duncan: would a knocked out flak gun be acceptable, or do we need to stick with "vehicle"? I'm still in either way, but I had an idea Thanks.

Happy Modelling, -zon
Klinker
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Posted: Thursday, February 23, 2012 - 06:35 PM UTC

Quoted Text

Duncan: would a knocked out flak gun be acceptable, or do we need to stick with "vehicle"? I'm still in either way, but I had an idea Thanks.

Happy Modelling, -zon



That's fine any price of Military equipment is acceptable.

Thanks very much everybody for the kind words about the Hummel.

Regards Duncan.
Losboz
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Posted: Friday, February 24, 2012 - 06:21 AM UTC
I would like to have a go (newbie on the site) at a knocked out build. I had a go late last year with one build after seeing a shell damaged SdKfz 11 photo and had a go creating this replica.


I downloaded a ton of damaged WW2 AFV photo refs at the time so all I need to do now is decide on a subject and get stuck in
ElCapitan
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Posted: Friday, February 24, 2012 - 01:51 PM UTC
Nice job and I bet the yours looks just like the photo.
Klinker
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Posted: Friday, February 24, 2012 - 01:58 PM UTC
Welcome aboard Kel, I like your SdKfz, very nicely done, any ideas on what AFV you may do? if you go back to the beginning of this thread and work through there are lots of links and images to help you as well.

Regards Duncan.
Losboz
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Posted: Saturday, February 25, 2012 - 03:29 AM UTC
Cheers guys, I am very much looking forward to seeing all your creations
I really fancy having a go at a Falaise pocket Sd.Kfz 251/D victim. I have numerous photos of them with either artillery or airstrike damage but I am still researching as to what kind of damage affected the armour or lack of it on various parts of this soft skinned vehicle. Some photos show cracking of the plate around the driving compartment and bulkhead but the fighting compartment, rear and front sections appear to be a lot thinner and are shown bent out of shape.
I have recently acquired a Dragon 251/D and also a Verlinden engine set. I have had a dry fit play around but I am finding the engine fitment sitting far too high in the engine bay so that the air filter protrudes above the engine access hatches!
Has anybody else found this ? The Verlinden instructions are virtually non-existent but without a fair bit of modification to the underside of the engine or the plate it sits on I can’t see it fitting !
Forgive me for asking but can I just confirm the entry rules. As I have already opened this model can I still use it if I officially begin the build for this campaign as of now, post with a newspaper etc ?
Regards
Kel
ElCapitan
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Posted: Monday, February 27, 2012 - 01:44 PM UTC
Good evening,

Here are a couple of update photos of my build. Right now I'm at the point in the build where I've started to make the dio base which is a piece of plywood covered with foam insulation cut for the tracks and mine explosions divets. The tracks are only stand-ins for the individual track links that I just completed and will be installed near the end of the process.

Now comes the painting starting with the interior. That will be a lenghty process with all the details.




Thanks.
GregCloseCombat
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Posted: Monday, February 27, 2012 - 04:57 PM UTC
Very nice builds so far everyone - it's got me thinking I need to choose something with more explosive damage done to it. Loving the effects shown here!
SGTJKJ
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Posted: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 - 09:52 AM UTC
Some really great builds in this campaign. The effect with rust and soot etc. are very realistic.

I am really looking forward to get started as well.
Klinker
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Posted: Wednesday, February 29, 2012 - 07:26 PM UTC
Kel.... As long as you haven't started just post up your picture of it with a newspaper and your off!

Kevin... Excellent work, coming together very well.

Greg.... I know what you mean about damage etc! my next KO'd project/kit was delivered yesterday and once the Hummels done I post up what I up to.

I haven't done much of late on the Hummel as we've had quite a large bush-fire going so I've been a bit distracted, it's now under control, weather permitting.

All the best
Regards Duncan.
ElCapitan
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Posted: Sunday, March 04, 2012 - 01:53 PM UTC
Well this weekend I was able to paint and seal the interior and then buttoned up the exterior. The photos really don't show the extent of the interior and the detail it holds, but here is what I have. Now I can fix the seam around the turret and then primer the vehicle and start the base.




I'm getting there, but I have a ways to go.

Thanks

Kevin
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Posted: Sunday, March 04, 2012 - 02:31 PM UTC
Kevin the interior is looking good from above. Keep up the good work
vonHengest
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Posted: Sunday, March 04, 2012 - 04:52 PM UTC
Wow the campaign's still young and we're already getting lots of impressive work here! Can't wait to get started on my tiny Sherman
ElCapitan
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Posted: Monday, March 05, 2012 - 04:08 AM UTC
Greg,

Thanks. I should be able to get the primer and base coat on this week and then I'll start to add ground work to the base. I think I will have to fix the tank to the base before I can finish the painting on either the ground or the tank since the tank is belly deep in the soft mud with blow tracks. This should be interesting to say the least.

zontar
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Posted: Monday, March 05, 2012 - 10:05 AM UTC
Kevin: the interior looks really good.

Happy Modelling, -zon