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Unfinished Business
DaGreatQueeg
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Posted: Friday, September 19, 2014 - 10:42 AM UTC

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Funny ye all should mention time as an issue...

The idea of Unfinished Business, at least for me, is to see some of those builds that do not make the end of other campaigns finnaly come together. I have been speaking to John about how we can do this and have a few ideas:

1) Leave the campaign open with no end date. Would have to set a time limit though for every shelf-queen, say 3 months from when you announce your entry. It would be very manual for me to keep track and issue the awards, but possible.... but people would only ever get one ribbon.....the administration software is like that!
2) An annual campaign from Jan 1st to Dec 31 every year. Awarsds would be issued at the end of the year and only one award per year, no matter how many you finish. If we do this should we have a rule saying no builds from 1 year can be entered into the next year? Just to encourage people to actually finish them?
3) Leave it as a once in a while type campaign? Would knowing there is always the Unfinished Business campaign sap the motivation from other campaigns?

I'd love to hear your ideas on any of the options above or any alternative suggestions.

Thanks
Sean



Hey Sean.

All good thoughts and it will be interesting to see what others think.

Personally I like option 2. I'm not sure it would stop people entering new kits in offered campaigns as you actually have to have an unfinished kit for this one and they usually can't be used for the standard campaigns.

cheers
Brent
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Posted: Friday, September 19, 2014 - 11:47 AM UTC
I no that I have a bad habit of seeing something new and shiny and putting another kit on the back burner. I find that having a campaign to enter in gives me more incentive to get back to an older kit. I don't think that option 1 would give me that motivation.

That being said, here are pictures of my SdKfz 7 still in gloss coat. I might finish this campaign on time!

MLD
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Posted: Friday, September 19, 2014 - 01:18 PM UTC
Going to have to go with the status quo, offered every year and kits worked on in previous Gettr Done, Hanger Queen or Unfinished Buisness campaigns are allowed.

Otherwise I might NEVER finish anything... -grin-

Mike
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Posted: Friday, September 19, 2014 - 04:16 PM UTC
Progress update M61A5 ready to paint.


35th-scale
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Posted: Sunday, September 21, 2014 - 08:16 PM UTC
Looking good Lap Man. Any chance in your next pics you could put something to give a sense of scale? I know this is bigger than most MBTs but just how much bigger?

Thanks
Sean
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Posted: Sunday, September 21, 2014 - 10:39 PM UTC

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Going to have to go with the status quo, offered every year and kits worked on in previous Gettr Done, Hanger Queen or Unfinished Buisness campaigns are allowed.

Otherwise I might NEVER finish anything... -grin-

Mike



As far as the campaign ribbons go--would it be possible to add a devise, such as an oak leaf, to a ribbon for each subsequent campaign finished?
Just a thought.

Keith
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Posted: Monday, September 22, 2014 - 12:15 AM UTC

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Going to have to go with the status quo, offered every year and kits worked on in previous Gettr Done, Hanger Queen or Unfinished Buisness campaigns are allowed.

Otherwise I might NEVER finish anything... -grin-

Mike



As far as the campaign ribbons go--would it be possible to add a devise, such as an oak leaf, to a ribbon for each subsequent campaign finished?
Just a thought.

Keith



Not currently. Each campaign has only one ribbon.

I, too, feel that not allowing models from a previous Getter Done, Hangar Queen, or Dry-Dock campaign to qualify for the next would keep some from finishing. It's like they only have one chance to finish building then that's it. I don't think it's in the spirit of campaigns. Maybe it makes sense for most people but some of us have trouble finishing campaigns and such a rule would not help. I know, for me, if such a rule were made, I wouldn't bother enlisting.
AlanL
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Posted: Monday, September 22, 2014 - 12:31 AM UTC
Providing the kit has been started then entering it into a get it done campaign should be no problem. I tend to like long campaigns that way I can usually get something completed although there is an argument for making the campaign 6 months instead of a year to encourage people to get on and build it. I don't think there should be extensions to a get it done campaign as the whole point is to get something finished within a time period.

I've joined a few of these campaigns and they certainly help motivate you to get those sitting on the shelf builds completed.

So the options as I see it are one campaign per year or one campaign for a period of 6 months every year. If the build has been started then it qualifies for the campaign and if you go for the 6 month option then it will be 6 months before you could re-enter a build that you didn't get finished in the original campaign.

Al
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Posted: Monday, September 22, 2014 - 12:35 AM UTC
Even for a year long campaign? I know the campaigns can work as an incentive for people to complete builds but sometimes life gets in the way and we miss the end of a regular campaign. Unfinished Business is there to pick those up...but if UB has no end date is it really an incetive or just an oppertunity to finish whenever you can/feel like it? At least that was my thinking. But the general concensus is for no restrictions, so I'll ask John to extend the current one to Dec 31st and then, if permitted, have UB II from Jan 1st to Dec 31st 2015.

Thanks for the feedback folks
Sean
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Posted: Tuesday, September 23, 2014 - 10:19 PM UTC
Status of my M61A5, ready to weathering.




Compare the size with Matilda II
Chapman
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Posted: Thursday, September 25, 2014 - 07:04 AM UTC

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Funny ye all should mention time as an issue...

The idea of Unfinished Business, at least for me, is to see some of those builds that do not make the end of other campaigns finnaly come together. I have been speaking to John about how we can do this and have a few ideas:

1) Leave the campaign open with no end date. Would have to set a time limit though for every shelf-queen, say 3 months from when you announce your entry. It would be very manual for me to keep track and issue the awards, but possible.... but people would only ever get one ribbon.....the administration software is like that!
2) An annual campaign from Jan 1st to Dec 31 every year. Awarsds would be issued at the end of the year and only one award per year, no matter how many you finish. If we do this should we have a rule saying no builds from 1 year can be entered into the next year? Just to encourage people to actually finish them?
3) Leave it as a once in a while type campaign? Would knowing there is always the Unfinished Business campaign sap the motivation from other campaigns?

I'd love to hear your ideas on any of the options above or any alternative suggestions.

Thanks
Sean



Hey Sean,

I like option 1 the most, and option 2 second. As it is for me with this campaign, I knew coming in late I may not make it( and prob won't for Oct. 1) BUT it motivated me to get back to finishing my shelf queen and that was well worth it. I'll certainly git r done for the regional mid-Oct show and that for me is the bigger prize.

FJHueso
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Posted: Thursday, September 25, 2014 - 08:10 AM UTC
Ditto as Chris. My Swan will not be finished in time, I'm afraid, but at least it's again underway...

Regards
Javier.
DaGreatQueeg
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Posted: Thursday, September 25, 2014 - 11:23 AM UTC
Is there a campaign Gallery for this one Sean?

Brent


And a couple more that are real close ..... 1/76th Milicast Firefly and Comet.




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Posted: Thursday, September 25, 2014 - 12:38 PM UTC
I'm getting really close--I should finish by the end of the weekend (fingers crossed). Here's where my LAV-R stands right now:







Here are a couple of close-ups of the T-shaped bar on top of the center hull, which I weathered more heavily that the rest of the vehicle, per reference photos.




The things that remain to be done are assembling the wheels, putting pigments on, taking off the periscope masks, and putting on the AFV refractive periscope film.
MLD
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Posted: Thursday, September 25, 2014 - 02:38 PM UTC
Lucas,
That's awesome! The T-bar chips look great. How did you get the tonal differences?
The rear hull grab handles are none too shabby either.

Did you use the Vallejo Black Brown 922(??) I love that stuff. It's what I used on the Stuka aus Fuss frames.
Did you put down a lighter paint shade first and then fill in the centers with the brown black?

Have you thought about doing the same to the feel of the outriggers on the rear hull? Perhaps along the lenghts and where they pass through that center fitting?
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Posted: Friday, September 26, 2014 - 10:32 AM UTC
Good work so far Lucas...
TMoon
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Posted: Friday, September 26, 2014 - 10:50 AM UTC
Here are the finished photos of the Tilley
The same photos are in the Gallery.








At least I finished this one. Too many left on the shelf to go.
There are a lot of great builds (completions) in this campaign.
Tom
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Posted: Friday, September 26, 2014 - 10:53 AM UTC

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Lucas,
That's awesome! The T-bar chips look great. How did you get the tonal differences?
The rear hull grab handles are none too shabby either.

Did you use the Vallejo Black Brown 922(??) I love that stuff. It's what I used on the Stuka aus Fuss frames.
Did you put down a lighter paint shade first and then fill in the centers with the brown black?

Have you thought about doing the same to the feel of the outriggers on the rear hull? Perhaps along the lenghts and where they pass through that center fitting?



Thanks, Mike! I used Ammo of Mig's Chipping color for the chips. For the tonal differences, I used two different rust shades from Vallejo (one of them the Rust wash). I didn't put on a lighter shade before the dark chips, as that's still beyond my painting skills.

Once you pointed it out, I realized I didn't chip the outriggers. I'll given them a similar treatment (if only somewhat lighter than what I gave the T-bar). Thanks!
MLD
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Posted: Friday, September 26, 2014 - 01:18 PM UTC
Lucas,
The outrigger feet of course, not sure where " feel" came from....@$$(:!! Autocorrect!!
The effects you have achieved are great.

I use the Iraqi sand as a light chip first really makes them pop.
I just use a stubby brush and randomly jab with very little paint, then go back with the brown black. The chips mostly overlap, but some lighter edges show through.
If a clumsy guy like me can manage, anyone can do it.
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Posted: Saturday, September 27, 2014 - 04:44 AM UTC
Hello gents!
Status today: decals and pin washes done plus some streaks. Next would be matte finish unless I didn't got that damn scratch on balkenkross at the fron, which I must fix with some black paint.

I may finish this on time but on the other hand I'm afraid I fail just before finishline..
DeskJockey
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Posted: Sunday, September 28, 2014 - 12:51 AM UTC
I'm 99% done with mine. All I need to do is straighten and glue the shackles and add the antennas. Once I do that, I'll break out the light box and take fancier pictures for my formal campaign submission.

Here's what it looks like after pigments and final assembly. I had one major blooper during the additions of the pigments (thinner ran under my finger and etched a fingerprint on the finish of the left rear side). I had to sand, respray and reweather the area. It is more heavily weathered now, which was not what I wanted to begin with, but it works OK. I used AFV Club's refractive stickers for all the periscopes and view ports. They color shift depending on how you look at them.






What do you guys think?
MLD
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Posted: Sunday, September 28, 2014 - 02:34 AM UTC
I think it looks great. The added 'cheeps' on the outriggers really help, but the overall effect is very nice. It all 'works' together nicely.
I had mentioned the light color/dark color chipping, but realize I was talking about pics in the 251 campaign, not here. Here is the photo I was referring to. Iraqi sand dabbed on with a sponge, then the brown/black with a cut off brush stippled/stabbed overpalling. It's stupid easy and I like the finished look.

Nice build,
Mike
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Posted: Sunday, September 28, 2014 - 06:46 AM UTC
Thanks, Mike! Your chipping method looks pretty good. I'll give it a try on a spare model and see if I can make it happen for my next armor build.
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Posted: Sunday, September 28, 2014 - 08:15 AM UTC
So many really nice builds here I am almost embarrassed to post my finished KV 2, I do learn much from the community here:



Bob
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Posted: Sunday, September 28, 2014 - 08:37 AM UTC
Ok! I am not doing something correct to post to the gallery, could someone give a dummy a lesson again?

Bob