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Posted: Thursday, March 27, 2014 - 05:41 PM UTC
Yep driven. Wanted to see how the strings would look on the soundboard. Pried it out of the piano.



And cut out the old strings...

Looks good from here, but....



Looks like I need twice as many strings as I have. Will have to wind some more tomorrow.



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Posted: Thursday, March 27, 2014 - 05:56 PM UTC
Dave,
Huge improvement have to admit. Looking at the positioning of the tuning posts it would appear the strings could stand to be closer together. A technique I have used before with some success would to be to make a double wrap of wires right up against one another, then remove one wrap. that should leave you with wires that are very uniformly spaced and seperated by a single wire thickness, giving nice, tight, uniform spacing.

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Posted: Friday, March 28, 2014 - 02:02 AM UTC
Huge upgrade for the ol' 88s!!
J
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Posted: Friday, March 28, 2014 - 06:12 AM UTC
Thanks gentleman. Again, the effect is very close to what I had originally envisioned. I will be wrapping another length of the wire around the jig later today when I get home. I may even use a thicker gauge closer to the left side of the jig to represent the strings for the bass end I the piano. I'm pretty sure they were thicker, like a guitar's strings.

Gotta run.

Later

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Posted: Friday, March 28, 2014 - 07:02 AM UTC
Dave,

Been lurking and following this in the background and just wanted to pop up to the surface and say that the new windows are a significant addition.

I really like the technique you hit on to do them. It looks like there's hardly any limits besides patience and time to the designs that could be done.

Your new piano wires are another major improvement.

A technique for straightening out the brass wire after it comes off the spool is to roll a section of it between a flat metal ruler (or piece of flat metal stock) and a piece of glass or even your table top. With a bit of practice, you can roll fairly long pieces (use a finger on your "non-rolling" hand to gently keep the end of the wire from flopping around as it's rolled by the ruler and the other hand).

You may still wind up with a slight curve in long pieces, but overall the wire will be pretty straight. For short sections of just a couple of inches, you can get them arrow-straight using this method.

Still, your method of using a "winding" jig has produced a real improvement over the initial strings.

Thanks for posting up all the details.

Happy modeling!
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Posted: Friday, March 28, 2014 - 07:22 AM UTC

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Thanks gentleman. Again, the effect is very close to what I had originally envisioned. I will be wrapping another length of the wire around the jig later today when I get home. I may even use a thicker gauge closer to the left side of the jig to represent the strings for the bass end I the piano. I'm pretty sure they were thicker, like a guitar's strings.

Gotta run.

Later




You are correct Sir!! The thicker the string,the lower the note. So the far left side would have the thicker strings.
J
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Posted: Friday, March 28, 2014 - 09:41 AM UTC

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Thanks gentleman. Again, the effect is very close to what I had originally envisioned. I will be wrapping another length of the wire around the jig later today when I get home. I may even use a thicker gauge closer to the left side of the jig to represent the strings for the bass end I the piano. I'm pretty sure they were thicker, like a guitar's strings.

Gotta run.

Later




You are correct Sir!! The thicker the string,the lower the note. So the far left side would have the thicker strings.
J



Then to paraphrase a paraphrase of ancient Pharaoh... " so let it be written, so let it be done!"

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Posted: Friday, March 28, 2014 - 09:48 AM UTC
Thanks Mike for the advise and the compliments.

I'm glad my work is garnering both interest and practical solutions for the areas of the build where my excitement to build sometimes gets ahead of my experience. Feel free to continue to monitor and enlighten.

Dave

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Posted: Friday, March 28, 2014 - 10:06 AM UTC

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Thanks gentleman. Again, the effect is very close to what I had originally envisioned. I will be wrapping another length of the wire around the jig later today when I get home. I may even use a thicker gauge closer to the left side of the jig to represent the strings for the bass end I the piano. I'm pretty sure they were thicker, like a guitar's strings.

Gotta run.

Later




You are correct Sir!! The thicker the string,the lower the note. So the far left side would have the thicker strings.
J



Then to paraphrase a paraphrase of ancient Pharaoh... " so let it be written, so let it be done!"



wasnt that said by Bruce Dickinson?
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Posted: Friday, March 28, 2014 - 11:05 AM UTC

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Thanks gentleman. Again, the effect is very close to what I had originally envisioned. I will be wrapping another length of the wire around the jig later today when I get home. I may even use a thicker gauge closer to the left side of the jig to represent the strings for the bass end I the piano. I'm pretty sure they were thicker, like a guitar's strings.

Gotta run.

Later




You are correct Sir!! The thicker the string,the lower the note. So the far left side would have the thicker strings.
J



Then to paraphrase a paraphrase of ancient Pharaoh... " so let it be written, so let it be done!"



wasnt that said by Bruce Dickinson?


I think it was Yul Brynner (sp?) and whoever played his father Ramses I. They both said it.
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Posted: Friday, March 28, 2014 - 06:48 PM UTC
Bruce Dickenson said, "I got a fever, and the only prescription is more photos of Dave's dio." Or maybe it was cowbell...

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Posted: Saturday, March 29, 2014 - 01:21 AM UTC

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Bruce Dickenson said, "I got a fever, and the only prescription is more photos of Dave's dio." Or maybe it was cowbell...



Being a drummer myself, I'm pretty sure it was more cowbell!! You can never have too much bass.... Or cowbell.

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Posted: Saturday, March 29, 2014 - 06:19 AM UTC
Well, the piano has strings! The thicker gauge wire I had was way to thick IMO so I made it with just the 32 gauge stuff. No perfect but good enough for girls I go out with....

Dave

Sorry. Forgot to post the pics.



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Posted: Saturday, March 29, 2014 - 07:32 AM UTC
Back in its rightful spot in the grand piano.

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Posted: Saturday, March 29, 2014 - 12:32 PM UTC
Well having taken a short break from the stained glass to fix my piano, I have considered the type of window I will put in the next opening.

Another search of the web led to this discovery...



Which I traced into an outline of the window opening I took from the "glass" I cu from the sheet of acrylic, or styrene whichever it is.

I still have to make a mirror image tracing for the inside window, and then begin the process of " leading" the design onto the two glass panels.

Hopefully it goes more easily this time. I am going to try a new texhnique for the lead on this window, which should allow for the curved shapes to be done, giving a more intricate look and overall feel to this window.

Later days...

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Posted: Saturday, March 29, 2014 - 04:06 PM UTC
I'm looking forward to that!

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Posted: Saturday, March 29, 2014 - 04:35 PM UTC

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I'm looking forward to that!



I'm hoping to use the thicker wire that was too heavy gauge for my piano strings as the lead for this window. I started bending and playing with it for a bit tonight with mixed results. I will try again in the morning.

I should probably look at soldering it all together. That way I can paint it black before I glue it to the glass, which I would color after. I've never soldered in scale so I'm a little unsure of the process and the proper tools. Any help I could get from the community would be appreciated. Do I need a sheet of glass to work on? Is that SOP?

I really want this window to pop so I'm willing to try almost anything to get it right.

Later, the kidlet is stirring in the other room. May have to go and snuggle her back to sleep.

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Posted: Saturday, March 29, 2014 - 06:51 PM UTC
I recommend a piece of tile to solder on... Glass could shatter from the heat.

Get some paste flux from the hardware store and use a toothpick to put a tiny bit on the wire where you want the join. Do the same on the wire end you want to attach, then heat that bit enough to get a tiny blob of solder on the end. When you hold them together and reheat the joint, the solder should flow from one wire to the other to create the joint.

You'll want to use some small alligator clips on either side of the joint to act as heatsinks, otherwise as you progress the joints you soldered previously will come apart.

They real trick will be in using the absolutely smallest amount of solder necessary to hold things together. Use too much and you'll have joints that will be completely out of scale.

Going to take lots of practice and patience....

Mark
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Posted: Sunday, March 30, 2014 - 01:21 AM UTC
Yep,
Pianer looks mucho better.
J
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Posted: Sunday, March 30, 2014 - 02:06 AM UTC
It does have a more realistic appearance doesn't it. Thanks Jerry.

Dave
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Posted: Sunday, March 30, 2014 - 02:49 AM UTC

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I recommend a piece of tile to solder on... Glass could shatter from the heat.

Get some paste flux from the hardware store and use a toothpick to put a tiny bit on the wire where you want the join. Do the same on the wire end you want to attach, then heat that bit enough to get a tiny blob of solder on the end. When you hold them together and reheat the joint, the solder should flow from one wire to the other to create the joint.

You'll want to use some small alligator clips on either side of the joint to act as heatsinks, otherwise as you progress the joints you soldered previously will come apart.

They real trick will be in using the absolutely smallest amount of solder necessary to hold things together. Use too much and you'll have joints that will be completely out of scale.

Going to take lots of practice and patience....

Mark
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Mark thanks. Yes I meant a tile, not glass. I have to practise for sure. I may try the old stretched spruce too. Or maybe the newer technique of softening the evergreen with liquid cement and bending it that way. Or seems like it would be A) more forgiving and B) less frustrating if it doesn't quite work right away. Not sure if I have even one alligator clip also...

We shall see what we shall see

Dave
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Posted: Sunday, March 30, 2014 - 09:36 AM UTC
Instead of softening the half-round, perhaps try very small full round. Will be d much more easily. Even softened, the half-roung is likely to do stuff you don't want it to

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Posted: Sunday, March 30, 2014 - 09:52 AM UTC
Reminds me that I used half round on the first two windows even though I referred to it as quarter round. I have some tiny hex rod I may try as it may be the thinnest stuff I have.

Thanks again Mark.

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Posted: Monday, April 07, 2014 - 04:48 PM UTC
Just a quick update with photo reference for the evidence supporting my lack of accomplishment in the model building realm of late. The temps have been steadily rising here in the great white north, at least in the western GWN, and the powers that be want me to be ready for a midweek open next week. So I have been busy watching the snow melt and putting things in place for the big thaw.

I have been doing research on lighting the church, and the second stained glass window as well and have painted and re painted mecher2 a couple more times.

But no real progress in the last week and a half or so. This is why:

Hole 7, last week. Spent two hours pumping water off the fairway only to have another 3 inches of snow the next day and a mini deep freeze. Supposed to be plus 15 Celsius tomorrow.




Same hole last Friday....



And our lagoon Saturday...



And today...



The melt is on, but by the looks of my irrigation lagoon we are going to need the rains to come or it could be a long dry summer.

Later skaters,

Dave
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Posted: Tuesday, April 08, 2014 - 02:22 AM UTC
I feel your pain brother! No lack of water around here though,that's for sure.
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