Quebec, Canada
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Posted: Saturday, December 01, 2012 - 06:07 AM UTC
Hi all!
I've just started A Tamiya t-72 m1 and I need major help from the Armorama crew
I have miniarm tracks
I have a l/48 125mm turned barrel #35b102 from jb model
I also have the sweet pe kit from voyager #35353
That said I would like to depict the Czech m1k wich seems to be pretty close to the kit version.
here is som pics of the model in question:
http://www.brdm2.estranky.cz/fotoalbum/tanky/stredni-tank-t-72mk-_velitelsky-tank_/hki-365.jpg.htmlIs this version is of the cold war era? And What would be the mods needed?
here is where I'm at.


6 pages on the pe kit instructions...
I've just started to work on the lower hull. Got the blade on and a couple of pieces of the suspension.

Thanks for watching and infos!
Phil.
Modeling...
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Alberta, Canada
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Posted: Saturday, December 01, 2012 - 07:40 AM UTC
You'll need to get a proper M1 turret: Blast, JS Models or other aftermarket. The K signifies a Command tank, so might have fittings for extra antenna on that one. Edit: just took a closer look, the antenna is stowed under the rear turret bin. There is an older article of building a Finnish T-72M1K in Mil Mod by Jukka Purhonen.
Jim
"Fire all weapons and open a hailing frequency for my victory yodel" - Zapp Brannigan
Quebec, Canada
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Posted: Saturday, December 01, 2012 - 08:22 AM UTC
Thanks for the clarification Jim!
I wonder is this kit an actual version of a tank? By this I mean that I never seen it built without major mods like turret or wheel set change...
Could I use this turret to build a t-72 m1?
So what I am trying to say is that I want to keep the wheels and turret if possible (Holliday season and tight budget:( ). Is there anyway to salvage this kit with some scratch and be accurate?
Thanks for intel.
Phil.
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Milano, Italy
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Posted: Saturday, December 01, 2012 - 08:48 AM UTC
Quoted Text
Thanks for the clarification Jim!
I wonder is this kit an actual version of a tank? By this I mean that I never seen it built without major mods like turret or wheel set change...
Could I use this turret to build a t-72 m1?
So what I am trying to say is that I want to keep the wheels and turret if possible (Holliday season and tight budget:( ). Is there anyway to salvage this kit with some scratch and be accurate?
Thanks for intel.
Phil.
Look here Phil
http://www.network54.com/Forum/47209/thread/1300646016/Tamiya+T-72+turret.+Good+-http://www.militaertechnik-der-nva.de/Aservatenkammer/Beschussversuche/Beschussversuche.htmlhttp://www.militaertechnik-der-nva.de/Aservatenkammer/VerschrottungT72/VerschrottungT72.htmlThe version depicted by the Tamiya kit must be a quite rare eastern German one
I'll follow your job for sure!
...well in my opinion T-55 isn' t just a tank. Actually it is THE TANK...
Quebec, Canada
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Posted: Saturday, December 01, 2012 - 09:10 AM UTC
HAHA Mauro! Always in the most intricate places of internet!
Thanks a lot Mate. This turret is a pain! But I like the last link and I'll imagine that: Once there was a reinforced turret on a E. German T-72 M1 hull

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So That said, Because it hollyday season and I want to model freeminded lets put this turret shape imbroglio behind us and go forward with the build.
Cheers
Phil.
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Quebec, Canada
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Posted: Saturday, December 01, 2012 - 12:38 PM UTC
Here is a small update of what i've been doing today.
The self entrenching blade seemed a little dull so I scratch some details


woops! there is a crooked one i'll get on it!



Voila for today. Thanks for watching and your fine infos.
Phil.
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Texas, United States
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Posted: Saturday, December 01, 2012 - 12:56 PM UTC
Hello Brother Phil,
Nice start my friend! Looks like you got some extra goodies for it as well - thats always good!

So the Kit turret is completely wrong or just wrong for most variasions? Me being a a slim to none budget, i would have to use the kit turret as well. Im not a 100% accuracy guy cause i just cant afford it, but i will get this kit and build one for sure and ill use your thread for reference Phil...If you dont mind kind sir......
Gary
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Posted: Saturday, December 01, 2012 - 01:35 PM UTC
Phil,
I too will watch what you do with this,nothing at all wrong with a rear east german bird
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Posted: Saturday, December 01, 2012 - 01:52 PM UTC
Will be watching this as I plan on doing the Lion of Babylon for a campaign.
What cheek! Let them have it!
Quebec, Canada
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Posted: Saturday, December 01, 2012 - 03:47 PM UTC
Mike and Christopher, I'm glad you've tuned in I'll try to do my best.
Gary,I'll use the tam turret since I too have a limited budget, The facr that you've gaved me the kit help me to get some after market goodies
Thanks and more tomorow!
Phil.
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Milano, Italy
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Posted: Saturday, December 01, 2012 - 07:24 PM UTC
...well in my opinion T-55 isn' t just a tank. Actually it is THE TANK...
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Posted: Saturday, December 01, 2012 - 10:27 PM UTC
I would say on this occasion, just ignore the turret and have fun with the kit and those AM goodies you have so far.
That said, its my opinion that even out of the box without the kit turret is still not correct for any version, including the rare East German example as some have suggested. The turret just looks totally wrong, and nothing like an early M.
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Not born as soldiers, but driven to the end'
Quebec, Canada
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Posted: Sunday, December 02, 2012 - 04:17 AM UTC
Mauro, Thanks bud those are some sweet link and they will come in handy...already, have since you also posted some of them on the how to build a t-72 forum.
Mister Harvey: Amen sir. I'll do just that and I'll take this build as a school for further t-72.
Thanks alot guys.
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Quebec, Canada
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Posted: Sunday, December 02, 2012 - 07:01 AM UTC
Here is my sunday update.
I got the running gear done.

I took off the extra track link that I had mounted on the rear and made those brackets from styrene and pe.

Ten I started what became rapidly a madening task

The fuel drum support... man I need a hold and form and a soldering iron. CA glue can piss a man off I tell you.
Anyway I manage to build one without loosing my mind...I think.
The smal styrene part are the hinges pin...It could be fonctional.

Thanks for watching.
Modeling...
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Florida, United States
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Posted: Sunday, December 02, 2012 - 07:15 AM UTC
Hi Phil
If you can get the JS turret it will be O.K. I have one of his turret and its great, and was not all that expensive.
Now if you want too splurge then Miniarm is the Best, then
Blast. Whatever you choose just have Fun and Build it YOUR WAY
MIKE.
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Posted: Sunday, December 02, 2012 - 07:37 AM UTC
Thanks Mike. The turret will definitly stay...It's wrong but it will still look bad ass with al the extra love and pe.
I saw miniarm and blast turret and it was very tempting but, I must be carefull on the budget for I'm moving in febuary and will need every extra cash I can find!
Phil.
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Posted: Sunday, December 02, 2012 - 12:33 PM UTC
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CA glue can piss a man off I tell you.
It certainly can. I'm not very good at soldering but at least it keeps me from going crazy.
Cheers,
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Quebec, Canada
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Posted: Sunday, December 02, 2012 - 01:10 PM UTC
Yep! And seen the size of that pe kit, I hope I get my hands on a soldering iron soon or I'll go nuts pretty fast
Thanks for droping in Erik.
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Texas, United States
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Posted: Monday, December 03, 2012 - 03:22 AM UTC
Hey Phil,
Nice update bro! Great job on tha tiny bits.

If you get all the soldering stuff make sure you get proper solder, resin and a good iron. Im a veteran welder/manufacturer, and i cant solder to save my life!!!!

I need a better iron and resin i think. Take practise i reckon and i guess i need more of it!

Keep tha good stuff comin' brotha!!!
Gary
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Posted: Monday, December 03, 2012 - 07:34 AM UTC
Phil, very nice build so far.
I like the efforts you put into the details.
Welcome to the T72M1 builders club ;-)
cheers
Walter
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Posted: Monday, December 03, 2012 - 11:09 AM UTC
Thanks Walter! It is, indeed, an intoxicating vehicule to build. And I'm pretty sure it is the first of many
I try to get as much details as I can scratch, it keeps my mind at ease and my hand busy.
Phil.
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Quebec, Canada
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Posted: Monday, December 03, 2012 - 02:06 PM UTC
I've manage to get the fuel drum support in place using the tam piece and modifying to accept the pe part. It looks all crooked but it was only for test purpose the straps wont even be on this support since there will be only one fuel drum on the other side.

the drum, before and after...Or after and before

Thanks for watching
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Milano, Italy
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Posted: Monday, December 03, 2012 - 09:56 PM UTC
Walter has made an outstanding white T-72 belonging to UN. I stll remember it!
Great job as usual Phil!
Beware that on the fuel drum you have to add tubes and electric pumps






...but you already know don't you?
Cheers
...well in my opinion T-55 isn' t just a tank. Actually it is THE TANK...
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Posted: Tuesday, December 04, 2012 - 03:17 AM UTC
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...but you already know don't you?
Cheers
Yes indeed I already know that but...I'm not sure what I'll use for the tubes!?
Thanks for the sweeeeet pics of those fuel barrel. They will be very usefull since I,m playing in is region this week hehe.
Any ideas for the tubes?
Best to all, Phil.
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Milano, Italy
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Posted: Tuesday, December 04, 2012 - 09:11 AM UTC
if I were you I'd use some wire made of lead or tin.
They are easy to bend, so it would be quite easy for you to replicate the exact shape of the actual tubes
...well in my opinion T-55 isn' t just a tank. Actually it is THE TANK...