The shield had no lock just 2 simple hinges.
(Jacques Littlefield Collection)
It could lay flat so it wouldn't interfere with the loaders hatch.
Jeff
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Posted: Wednesday, May 07, 2014 - 07:34 AM UTC
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Posted: Wednesday, May 07, 2014 - 10:27 AM UTC
Jeff if you look at the front hatch there is a bar with a hole in it and a pin on the front shield ..that's what I mean by being locked ..
http://www.amps-armor.org/ampssite/reviews/showReview.aspx?ID=1568&Type=FB
you can see he added these pieces on the finnish model but it was the same on all stugs.
Rick
http://www.amps-armor.org/ampssite/reviews/showReview.aspx?ID=1568&Type=FB
you can see he added these pieces on the finnish model but it was the same on all stugs.
Rick
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Posted: Wednesday, May 07, 2014 - 12:39 PM UTC
Get the book Walkaround StuG and you'll see the pictures and description.
Jeff
Jeff
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Posted: Thursday, May 08, 2014 - 01:38 AM UTC
Hi Jeff ..I have the walkaround ,ActungPanzer ,Ryton Publication , Scheiffer Pub ,and many more ..I just always took it for granted that the pin had to be engaged with the Hatch cover to stay in place while on the move... I guess we learn something new every day.
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Posted: Thursday, May 08, 2014 - 07:20 PM UTC
Hello,
I'd like to know if anyone has pictures, or building plans (much better) of a stug III short barrel interior. That's because understanding sizes from books is not always simple.
Thanks
I'd like to know if anyone has pictures, or building plans (much better) of a stug III short barrel interior. That's because understanding sizes from books is not always simple.
Thanks
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Posted: Friday, May 09, 2014 - 06:00 AM UTC
I am going to add the following to my StuG build:
Gotta finish the Stalin Campaign by the 25th and get some more finished on my truck by August and THEN finish my StuG!
I know there are a few more somewhere in there but this fire first!
Jeff
Gotta finish the Stalin Campaign by the 25th and get some more finished on my truck by August and THEN finish my StuG!
I know there are a few more somewhere in there but this fire first!
Jeff
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Posted: Friday, May 09, 2014 - 06:54 AM UTC
hat's in the bag Jeff??
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Posted: Friday, May 09, 2014 - 07:19 AM UTC
Quoted Text
hat's in the bag Jeff??
I don't get what you mean?
Jeff
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Posted: Friday, May 09, 2014 - 07:34 AM UTC
there's a W that went AWOL ...so what's in the bag
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Posted: Friday, May 09, 2014 - 07:41 AM UTC
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there's a W that went AWOL ...so what's in the bag
You will just have to wait and see!
Jeff
Posted: Tuesday, May 13, 2014 - 09:48 PM UTC
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Posted: Wednesday, May 14, 2014 - 08:56 AM UTC
The road wheels on a Panzer IV chassis isn't that bad. Try one of the Tigers or a Panther!
Now that needs encouragement!
Jeff
Now that needs encouragement!
Jeff
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Posted: Wednesday, May 14, 2014 - 11:52 PM UTC
Count me in!
I've got this Stug III Auf. A from CyberHobby in my stash. Going to use Spade Ace metal tracks as well.
I've got this Stug III Auf. A from CyberHobby in my stash. Going to use Spade Ace metal tracks as well.
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Posted: Thursday, May 15, 2014 - 02:19 AM UTC
Very nice choice Vegard!
Jeff
Jeff
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Posted: Thursday, May 15, 2014 - 02:50 AM UTC
Vegard;
Certainly a StuG - the first, even! Cool!
Having not seen the kit, I do have a couple of questions and maybe a suggestion or 2.
Q1: Seeing as the kit appears to have the "early" Pz III sprocket... have you checked these and reconciled them for width to your AM tracks (or are you going to use AM sprockets, too?)? The StuG A used the early sprockets that came with the base Pz III hull E - early H hull and running gear... I am unsure, but perhaps some or all StuG III A may have had the narrow "original" sprocket, idler, and road-wheels as used for the early 36cm track... I don't know whether this kit provides those, or only the revised "widened" sprocket and later-type wider roadies used for the 40cm tracks used on all later StuG (and which entered service with some later III-F tanks, which were retrofitted with corrected "early" sprockets for the wider tracks)...
This has been discussed in a prior review thread dealing with the new Dragon III early H kit, which provides wider tracks but erroneously narrower "early" sprockets. Maybe this StuG A kit actually matches sprocket with track? I think these CH orange-box kits have added MagicTracks and perhaps those would be the correct narrow type IF the kit also has the narrow early sprockets - conversely it may have widened early sprockets and wider tracks...? The widened early sprocket has a marked different form with the outer tooth ring moved further out from its hub. This is a visual feature discussed in the III H thread. And it could apply to your StuG A build.
Q2 You are changing out link MagicTracks for metal AM types -I presume because the AM may offer better detail or... By me the real "fail" for these older kits compared to recent Dragon III kits lies mostly in the road wheels. New-tool road wheels are MUCH better-looking. Are you planning on swapping in those along with your new tracks? IF you happen to have the D's more-recent III-E kit, that one comes with both narrow and wide-style roadies... so you can borrow a set to do that swap to the StuG either narrrow or wider as you wish!
Bob
Certainly a StuG - the first, even! Cool!
Having not seen the kit, I do have a couple of questions and maybe a suggestion or 2.
Q1: Seeing as the kit appears to have the "early" Pz III sprocket... have you checked these and reconciled them for width to your AM tracks (or are you going to use AM sprockets, too?)? The StuG A used the early sprockets that came with the base Pz III hull E - early H hull and running gear... I am unsure, but perhaps some or all StuG III A may have had the narrow "original" sprocket, idler, and road-wheels as used for the early 36cm track... I don't know whether this kit provides those, or only the revised "widened" sprocket and later-type wider roadies used for the 40cm tracks used on all later StuG (and which entered service with some later III-F tanks, which were retrofitted with corrected "early" sprockets for the wider tracks)...
This has been discussed in a prior review thread dealing with the new Dragon III early H kit, which provides wider tracks but erroneously narrower "early" sprockets. Maybe this StuG A kit actually matches sprocket with track? I think these CH orange-box kits have added MagicTracks and perhaps those would be the correct narrow type IF the kit also has the narrow early sprockets - conversely it may have widened early sprockets and wider tracks...? The widened early sprocket has a marked different form with the outer tooth ring moved further out from its hub. This is a visual feature discussed in the III H thread. And it could apply to your StuG A build.
Q2 You are changing out link MagicTracks for metal AM types -I presume because the AM may offer better detail or... By me the real "fail" for these older kits compared to recent Dragon III kits lies mostly in the road wheels. New-tool road wheels are MUCH better-looking. Are you planning on swapping in those along with your new tracks? IF you happen to have the D's more-recent III-E kit, that one comes with both narrow and wide-style roadies... so you can borrow a set to do that swap to the StuG either narrrow or wider as you wish!
Bob
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Posted: Friday, May 23, 2014 - 03:32 AM UTC
Thanks Jeff and Bob
Regarding your questions, Bob:
The kit comes with both the early sprocket (38cm) that is pictured on the box, and a set of newer sprockets. I made a strip of 10 links to test the sprockets and they fit perfectly. I have not tested the kit included tracks with the sprockets as I have no plans on using them for this build.
I only have two Pz 3 based kits in my stash, the second being kit #9111 Pz 3 E/F. I just checked contents and couldn't find any spare road wheels in that kit. I did a quick compare between the road wheels in both kits and they looked pretty much identical.
Edit: Pic included:
Regarding your questions, Bob:
The kit comes with both the early sprocket (38cm) that is pictured on the box, and a set of newer sprockets. I made a strip of 10 links to test the sprockets and they fit perfectly. I have not tested the kit included tracks with the sprockets as I have no plans on using them for this build.
I only have two Pz 3 based kits in my stash, the second being kit #9111 Pz 3 E/F. I just checked contents and couldn't find any spare road wheels in that kit. I did a quick compare between the road wheels in both kits and they looked pretty much identical.
Edit: Pic included:
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Posted: Friday, May 23, 2014 - 09:06 AM UTC
I am not surprised that you found those other older III kit wheels to be the same! That's the wrong Dragon Pz III kit!
I was ref'ing the fairly recent Pz III Ausf E "France 1940" SmartKit 6631. This is a new-tool III kit and shares few - if any - parts with any of those older "9000 series" kits. All the wheels and sprockets are new-tool. Kit 6631 includes both the "early type" narrow road wheels as found on early Pz III with the 36cm tracks, and the "later type" wider roadies which were introduced in 1940 and seen mostly on III F and later marks (but retro-fitted to some E in 1940).
IMHO, the newer-tool roadies look much better - maybe the single most important "new tool" improvement over those older Dragon III kits.
PS: The older kit wheels can be improved with a little work to better show the weld-seams, etc., if it's worth while and one does not have access to newer wheels.
Bob
I was ref'ing the fairly recent Pz III Ausf E "France 1940" SmartKit 6631. This is a new-tool III kit and shares few - if any - parts with any of those older "9000 series" kits. All the wheels and sprockets are new-tool. Kit 6631 includes both the "early type" narrow road wheels as found on early Pz III with the 36cm tracks, and the "later type" wider roadies which were introduced in 1940 and seen mostly on III F and later marks (but retro-fitted to some E in 1940).
IMHO, the newer-tool roadies look much better - maybe the single most important "new tool" improvement over those older Dragon III kits.
PS: The older kit wheels can be improved with a little work to better show the weld-seams, etc., if it's worth while and one does not have access to newer wheels.
Bob
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Posted: Saturday, May 24, 2014 - 05:58 AM UTC
Quoted Text
I am not surprised that you found those other older III kit wheels to be the same! That's the wrong Dragon Pz III kit!
I was ref'ing the fairly recent Pz III Ausf E "France 1940" SmartKit 6631. This is a new-tool III kit and shares few - if any - parts with any of those older "9000 series" kits. All the wheels and sprockets are new-tool. Kit 6631 includes both the "early type" narrow road wheels as found on early Pz III with the 36cm tracks, and the "later type" wider roadies which were introduced in 1940 and seen mostly on III F and later marks (but retro-fitted to some E in 1940).
IMHO, the newer-tool roadies look much better - maybe the single most important "new tool" improvement over those older Dragon III kits.
PS: The older kit wheels can be improved with a little work to better show the weld-seams, etc., if it's worth while and one does not have access to newer wheels.
Bob
The newly tooled 6631 does indeed look great, but it will have to wait until I've done a few more kits from stash.
Thanks for the suggestions, Bob, but I don't think I'll be adding seam welds to this build.
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Posted: Thursday, June 05, 2014 - 04:26 PM UTC
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Posted: Friday, June 06, 2014 - 12:19 AM UTC
Nice choice Chris!
Jeff
Jeff
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Posted: Wednesday, June 11, 2014 - 06:53 AM UTC
finally got this build finished... quite pleased with it in the end... and my first 3 figures....
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Posted: Wednesday, June 11, 2014 - 07:00 AM UTC
Nice work Rob!
Jeff
Jeff
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Posted: Wednesday, June 11, 2014 - 04:01 PM UTC
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Posted: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 - 10:27 AM UTC
Progress update on my Stug III Ausf. A:
Not much progress since last time, but I've been sidetracked by a foray into figurine painting. That is on hold for the moment, so I'm back to building tanks again!
Not much progress since last time, but I've been sidetracked by a foray into figurine painting. That is on hold for the moment, so I'm back to building tanks again!
Posted: Thursday, June 19, 2014 - 01:42 AM UTC
Here is my start Up photo for the Campaign
StuG III Ausf A OOB.
Tom
StuG III Ausf A OOB.
Tom