Im in..... 16$ kit at hobby show, Tamiya M-3 Stuart.
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20 Bucks for the win
Posted: Thursday, November 20, 2014 - 11:52 PM UTC
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Posted: Saturday, November 22, 2014 - 04:32 AM UTC
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Im in..... 16$ kit at hobby show, Tamiya M-3 Stuart.
Before completion
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After
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Brian, this campaign has NOT stated yet. Start date is by 2015-02-20.
You can get an detailed overview about the rules and regs here
I´d greatly apprechiate if you still enlist and join us in February next year with another kit.
Cheers, Fabian
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Posted: Friday, December 05, 2014 - 11:14 AM UTC
Picked this up today:
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Posted: Friday, December 05, 2014 - 06:37 PM UTC
Uhh, Tamiyas good old Panther A. One of my first kits in "Men-Scale" ( ). A few odds and sodds, but nothing that couldn´t be fixed with some Putty, pastic card and wire. I think there are even instructions out there what to change... Hope you let us see some scratchbuilding
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Posted: Friday, December 05, 2014 - 07:40 PM UTC
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Uhh, Tamiyas good old Panther A. One of my first kits in "Men-Scale" ( ). A few odds and sodds, but nothing that couldn´t be fixed with some Putty, pastic card and wire. I think there are even instructions out there what to change... Hope you let us see some scratchbuilding
That was the plan! Should be educational.
retiredyank
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Posted: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 - 12:41 AM UTC
I thought the total build price had to be $20 or less.?
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Posted: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 - 01:04 AM UTC
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I thought the total build price had to be $20 or less.?
Yes, the initial idea was 20 "US-Dollar" Bucks. Now it´s 20 "Euro" Bucks
Sorry if there has been confusion. Current and final limit (as stated in the rules and regs) is 20€, 25$, 20£ or a simmilar ammount of any other currency you can buy kits for.
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Posted: Friday, January 02, 2015 - 11:53 AM UTC
I have one of Revells old "Unimogs" in 1:35 scale. Got it in an action sale for 15€ (including glue and paint). That leaves money for all the evergreen stuff I'll need to make it Hauptfeld "GuckInDieFlasche"s mobile drinking room
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Posted: Friday, January 02, 2015 - 12:32 PM UTC
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I thought the total build price had to be $20 or less.?
20 US dollars originally mate.
Work out the exchange rate to Australian dollars !
mmeier
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Posted: Monday, January 05, 2015 - 11:47 PM UTC
With the help of my old friends from the "Forlone Hope" and a high class strike team under Morgan Blackhand I managed to retrieve my 20EB kit from the stash
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Posted: Sunday, January 11, 2015 - 05:54 PM UTC
Hi there,
I will join with a Tamiya Marder 2 which i picked for 10.50 Swissies which leaves me wth enough room to add a Metal barrel for 9, should be a fun campaign.
I will join with a Tamiya Marder 2 which i picked for 10.50 Swissies which leaves me wth enough room to add a Metal barrel for 9, should be a fun campaign.
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Posted: Sunday, January 11, 2015 - 07:14 PM UTC
you got guys coming on here with Tamiya kits that have a "market value" way above $20 ...so...is that acceptable?
I thought this was for $20 cheap kits not kits that are obviously worth more than $20.
I thought this was for $20 cheap kits not kits that are obviously worth more than $20.
panzerbob01
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Posted: Sunday, January 11, 2015 - 07:48 PM UTC
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you got guys coming on here with Tamiya kits that have a "market value" way above $20 ...so...is that acceptable?
I thought this was for $20 cheap kits not kits that are obviously worth more than $20.
David;
I'm going into this one with the understanding that "cheap" means here that I have paid under $25.00 US (or is it $20.00 US?)for the kit and goods purchased for the build. As versus spending the sometimes much larger amounts some folks do - both because the base kit cost more, and the AM added lots of cost on top. That's my understanding of this campaign idea: What I PAID for the kit and goods for the build.
So... What is "worth"? What makes any given kit "worth" x - amount? Certainly not some stated "MSRP"! By that measure, I doubt I have EVER paid anyone or any company what their kit was "worth"! Consider; you go to DragonUSAOnline.com and buy one of those Daily Special kits for $23.99 - sale-mark-down from D-U-O's "usual price" of $49.99. What is this kit worth? If I bought it at the sale price, guess that's its worth to me!
I'm sure that we'll see kits here that the manufacturers (and maybe the first retailers) originally sold for (or hoped to sell for) way more than $20 or $25 US. Now they are cheap stuff stuff from sales, show vendors, eBay, etc.
Heck! That's certainly at least half the fun of this one, to me! Just how much kit can I bring to the bench for the allowed max?
Who said that we were supposed to only use some old dog from the far past for this? IF that's the real intent - to bring out some old and funky thing (which may have been cheap - or not - back then, but likely commands almost no price, today)... I can certainly do that one, too! Got some of those hidden in the back of the closet! Bow wow!
Want that for a campaign? Tired old known-to-be-pretty-crappy kits from the BOD?
Bob
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Posted: Sunday, January 11, 2015 - 09:43 PM UTC
I think Bob summed it up quite well, although the rules and regs should make that clear aswell:
So it´s perfeclty fine to enter with a "lucky shot", as well as with an old dog. The choice is your´s....
Seeing some suffering with old and crappy kits would be better for our entertainemnt, though...
@Bob: I´d shurely would take part in an "Tired old known-to-be-pretty-crappy kits"-campaign... Still one Heller Somua to clear out
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Whatever kit you can find for less than 20€, 25$, 20£ or a simmilar ammount of your favourite currency, can take part.
You can use all aftermarket items you whish to, as long as you´re staying below the limit.
So it´s perfeclty fine to enter with a "lucky shot", as well as with an old dog. The choice is your´s....
Seeing some suffering with old and crappy kits would be better for our entertainemnt, though...
@Bob: I´d shurely would take part in an "Tired old known-to-be-pretty-crappy kits"-campaign... Still one Heller Somua to clear out
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Posted: Sunday, January 11, 2015 - 10:48 PM UTC
I think this one is really being over-thought. The two angles to this one are 1) the builder got their kit for a great price. 2) it's an old inexpensive kit.
To be fair there are some potential red flags. Like a kit that was received as a gift. By that you could have someone pull up with a Tamiya Dragon Wagon or any new release kit that technically cost the recipient below the $25 threshold. Another are trades and deals at shows, between friends, and even points benefits from some online venders. And of course there are kits that were bought at full retail but since have dropped in price (ex. Academy Humvees). The flip side are kits that might have been bought in the 90s for $18-20 but now cost twice that (Italeri's older kits). And then there's the rebox of old kits like Ark Models and CyberHobby.
There's going to be some honor system in place for some of this...especially cases where there's no receipt. I guess the best way to go is to simply ask.
Like my entry is the Cyber Hobby Gaskin. You can find it for around $23. I found a copy at Hobbylinc for $14. In my case, I can link to the item entry or take a picture of the invoice.
To be fair there are some potential red flags. Like a kit that was received as a gift. By that you could have someone pull up with a Tamiya Dragon Wagon or any new release kit that technically cost the recipient below the $25 threshold. Another are trades and deals at shows, between friends, and even points benefits from some online venders. And of course there are kits that were bought at full retail but since have dropped in price (ex. Academy Humvees). The flip side are kits that might have been bought in the 90s for $18-20 but now cost twice that (Italeri's older kits). And then there's the rebox of old kits like Ark Models and CyberHobby.
There's going to be some honor system in place for some of this...especially cases where there's no receipt. I guess the best way to go is to simply ask.
Like my entry is the Cyber Hobby Gaskin. You can find it for around $23. I found a copy at Hobbylinc for $14. In my case, I can link to the item entry or take a picture of the invoice.
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Posted: Monday, January 12, 2015 - 05:26 AM UTC
My kit, for example, was fairly inexpensive. However, I understand it to be a diamond, in the rough. You can score some good deals by keeping an eye on EBay(especially right after Christmas). I recently purchased a Merkava III for $23, plus shipping. This does raise a question. Do you have to include shipping as part of the $25 value? I believe this would greatly limit the acceptable kits.
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Posted: Monday, January 12, 2015 - 05:58 AM UTC
@ Alex: Shurely, I haven´t asked for a recipt as proof, and I will not do so. Most of my kits in this range have been bought of other modellers... which are not likely to write bills.
I fully trust you on this behalf, ladies and gentlemen.
@Matt: to be honest, shipping wasn´t that much of an issue to me.
If the shipping had to be included in the limits, how about an example:
You paid 6 quid shipping for an order with three kits, but only one of them is part of this groupbuild.
How do you calculate the ammout that you have to inlude? Do you have to add 2 (6/3 kits), 4 (because it was the biggest box in the parcel) or everything?
I´ll guess we´ll keep it simple and forget about the shipping.
I´ve updated the regulations to make this case clear. Hope we´re through all questions how to calculate the limits now...
I fully trust you on this behalf, ladies and gentlemen.
@Matt: to be honest, shipping wasn´t that much of an issue to me.
If the shipping had to be included in the limits, how about an example:
You paid 6 quid shipping for an order with three kits, but only one of them is part of this groupbuild.
How do you calculate the ammout that you have to inlude? Do you have to add 2 (6/3 kits), 4 (because it was the biggest box in the parcel) or everything?
I´ll guess we´ll keep it simple and forget about the shipping.
I´ve updated the regulations to make this case clear. Hope we´re through all questions how to calculate the limits now...
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Posted: Monday, January 12, 2015 - 06:15 AM UTC
I agree. Not counting shipping has to be the way to go. Even if you buy at your LHS, there's likely still transport costs.
*I* count shipping in my costs, but take my example. I bought the kit at a bookstore minutes from work, so to me, *no shipping*. But then, I still had to car and train it to get to work, so what percentage was 'work travel' vs kit delivery! I paid $20 that's all I know!
*I* count shipping in my costs, but take my example. I bought the kit at a bookstore minutes from work, so to me, *no shipping*. But then, I still had to car and train it to get to work, so what percentage was 'work travel' vs kit delivery! I paid $20 that's all I know!
Posted: Monday, January 12, 2015 - 06:42 AM UTC
I'm not sure if I'll actually manage to complete a build for this one with all my other campaigns, but I'll jump in and see how it goes--I love to grab cheap kits at the second-hand stores here in Japan.
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Posted: Monday, January 12, 2015 - 07:54 AM UTC
I will jump in this one, but haven't decided which model to use.
And mine will really through a spanner in the works. I bought 10 Dragon/Trumpeter/Zvezda/Tamiya models from South Australia form a person that closed their store. Bought them for AUS$10. Then I had a mate who did the purchase for me, drive them to Canberra, approx 1200kms. His fuel and running costs of his car as delivery.
So I am saying it cost $10.
Mine will either be a Tamiya 1:35 Jeep or a new purchase just made of a Trumpeter Soviet Armoured Aerosan RF-8 for AUS$20, that should arrive next week.
And mine will really through a spanner in the works. I bought 10 Dragon/Trumpeter/Zvezda/Tamiya models from South Australia form a person that closed their store. Bought them for AUS$10. Then I had a mate who did the purchase for me, drive them to Canberra, approx 1200kms. His fuel and running costs of his car as delivery.
So I am saying it cost $10.
Mine will either be a Tamiya 1:35 Jeep or a new purchase just made of a Trumpeter Soviet Armoured Aerosan RF-8 for AUS$20, that should arrive next week.
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Posted: Monday, January 12, 2015 - 11:41 AM UTC
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Posted: Monday, January 12, 2015 - 10:08 PM UTC
Fabian,
That's my point. You'd have to go with an honor system and take peoples' word for it. There are so many ways that these kits can be sourced for under $25. As posted, my choice has a paper trail but I know that doesn't apply to everyone.
To be honest, I'm getting a kick out of some of these back-stories on how these kits were sourced. Likewise I'll enjoy watching some of the older kits get built.
That's my point. You'd have to go with an honor system and take peoples' word for it. There are so many ways that these kits can be sourced for under $25. As posted, my choice has a paper trail but I know that doesn't apply to everyone.
To be honest, I'm getting a kick out of some of these back-stories on how these kits were sourced. Likewise I'll enjoy watching some of the older kits get built.
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Posted: Wednesday, January 14, 2015 - 10:33 AM UTC
Well kids, after a few manhattans and some nostalgia Im in with an old Tamiya Chieftain MK.5. I recently cleared some very old boxes out of storage and in one was a miss mash of old twisted, melted, broken, enamel laden parts, one of which was a barrel from this kit. I recall trying to deal with tracks, how cool the moving turret was, basically how different it was from the planes I built. So Im going back to my roots, for $12 on Ebay it'll be a cheap trip down memory lane.
Eric.
Eric.
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Posted: Wednesday, January 14, 2015 - 10:39 AM UTC
And on the point of cash, lets just agree to try to stick with a budget build and have fun, this is a perfect opportunity to laugh at old kits, try some techniques we wouldn't dare on a "real" kit, and just enjoy a build for the sake of building. If we get lost in the best kit we can for "blank" we're loosing the joy. So lets have a blast making our own details, dealing with 30 year old moulds, tracks that are... really just awful, terrible creations, and have fun.
And Matt, that thing is a beast!
And Matt, that thing is a beast!
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Posted: Wednesday, January 14, 2015 - 03:28 PM UTC
ok..I understand now. I got this Tasca Sherman for $20. Seriously, I did.