@Eric;
quote[If we get lost in the best kit we can for "blank" we're loosing the joy.]quote
I LIKE trying for the "best" from what I have spent! I'm not into buying crappy kits "on purpose" just for the sake of building something "cheaply", specially not if I can get better... more joy - per - buck if I get more kit for that buck! But that's just me! Other's mileage will differ.
Let's see some good builds done cheaply!
Bob
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20 Bucks for the win
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Posted: Wednesday, January 14, 2015 - 10:51 PM UTC
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Posted: Thursday, January 15, 2015 - 01:57 AM UTC
I have to agree with Bob.
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Posted: Thursday, January 15, 2015 - 04:26 PM UTC
Quoted Text
I LIKE trying for the "best" from what I have spent! I'm not into buying crappy kits "on purpose" just for the sake of building something "cheaply", specially not if I can get better... more joy - per - buck if I get more kit for that buck!
Me neither Bob... me neither... but I still end up with "unique dogs" in my stash...
I thought I was safe with the Heller Somua, but as it seems Tamiya will jump in here aswell. I think I have to take the "now or never" chance, luckily the kit and Eduard PE are within the my own 20 Buck limit.
Tracks will be still a problem, but secretly I´m hoping that someone like HobbyBoss is producing a set here (as they have done it for the Tamiya Cromwell, for example)
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Posted: Thursday, January 15, 2015 - 04:55 PM UTC
Fabian,
hobby boss do a set for the Hotchkiss, they look pretty similar.
Paul
hobby boss do a set for the Hotchkiss, they look pretty similar.
Paul
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Posted: Thursday, January 15, 2015 - 11:15 PM UTC
@Fabian;
Yeah... I have THAT old dog, too! And, NO, I didn't buy it - back in 1972, I think... - "to expressly buy a crappy kit". It was the ONLY styrene Somua kit in town, and NOT cheap, either! I STILL haven't had the stones to actually pull it out and try to make it work! It's a shelf-queen right in its box - a momento-mori of a long-gone past. Now-a-days, I am MUCH more particular about the kits I buy, knowing as I do that I'll never get to build most of what I already have, let alone of what is out there to be bought! No more "purposeful acquisitions of real dogs for me!"
I'm waiting to see what Tamiya does with it, but boy, am I hopeful for Good News on it! We NEED a good Somua kit!
Meanwhile... those Heller rubberband Somua tracks...
But I am really unsure that the Hotchkiss set could work in there - it is similar to the Renault R-35 tracks, but I don't know about that Somua.
Cheers!
Bob
Yeah... I have THAT old dog, too! And, NO, I didn't buy it - back in 1972, I think... - "to expressly buy a crappy kit". It was the ONLY styrene Somua kit in town, and NOT cheap, either! I STILL haven't had the stones to actually pull it out and try to make it work! It's a shelf-queen right in its box - a momento-mori of a long-gone past. Now-a-days, I am MUCH more particular about the kits I buy, knowing as I do that I'll never get to build most of what I already have, let alone of what is out there to be bought! No more "purposeful acquisitions of real dogs for me!"
I'm waiting to see what Tamiya does with it, but boy, am I hopeful for Good News on it! We NEED a good Somua kit!
Meanwhile... those Heller rubberband Somua tracks...
But I am really unsure that the Hotchkiss set could work in there - it is similar to the Renault R-35 tracks, but I don't know about that Somua.
Cheers!
Bob
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Posted: Thursday, January 15, 2015 - 11:24 PM UTC
I have built one of those(reboxed by Trumpeter). It was a fun build, even if it is not accurate.
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Posted: Friday, January 16, 2015 - 04:23 AM UTC
I must have bought it in the last two years from an other modeller, he sold me some other kits aswell I wasn´t that hard to add another 10 bucks for this kit. It was still the only Somua on the market... But as I leared with quite a few other kits, waiting for a new state to the art kit is sometimes faster than building an old dog.
I actually have equipped the Heller R35 with those HobbyBoss tracks, which are made for the H39. They are a bit wrong for the R35, but completely wrong for the S35. As the Somua is slightly longer you´d most probably need two of these sets aswell, from my experience (H39 & Cromwell) there aren´t that many extra links in those packs.
I could buy the the Friuls (ATL-67) but tossing another 30€ on a 10€ kit desn´t make too much sense to me, even without the Tamiya kit in sight. But anyway, I guess there will be more options with the Tamiya kit in the shelves, if it´s just taking the rubber tracks from Tamiya to upgrade it with something else.
But still more than half a year left until I really have to decide on that issue
I actually have equipped the Heller R35 with those HobbyBoss tracks, which are made for the H39. They are a bit wrong for the R35, but completely wrong for the S35. As the Somua is slightly longer you´d most probably need two of these sets aswell, from my experience (H39 & Cromwell) there aren´t that many extra links in those packs.
I could buy the the Friuls (ATL-67) but tossing another 30€ on a 10€ kit desn´t make too much sense to me, even without the Tamiya kit in sight. But anyway, I guess there will be more options with the Tamiya kit in the shelves, if it´s just taking the rubber tracks from Tamiya to upgrade it with something else.
But still more than half a year left until I really have to decide on that issue
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Posted: Monday, February 02, 2015 - 07:40 PM UTC
Hi guys,
I need some advice here.
I managed to pick up an Airfix Forward Assault Group kit, which contains a Supacat Jackal for £8.99 and some PE for the Jackal for £9.99 both direct from Airfix.
I know I am under the £20 mark but the question is, "Does the Jackal count as the right type of build for this campaign?".
Thanks
Brian
I need some advice here.
I managed to pick up an Airfix Forward Assault Group kit, which contains a Supacat Jackal for £8.99 and some PE for the Jackal for £9.99 both direct from Airfix.
I know I am under the £20 mark but the question is, "Does the Jackal count as the right type of build for this campaign?".
Thanks
Brian
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Posted: Monday, February 02, 2015 - 08:24 PM UTC
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"Does the Jackal count as the right type of build for this campaign?".
My Question is: why not?
It´s the 1:48 kit, right? So you´re within the scale range and under the price limit... abslutely no problem here.
There is no right or wrong here, as long as your kit qualifies.
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Posted: Monday, February 02, 2015 - 11:28 PM UTC
Thanks Fabian.
It is the 1/48 bur was not sure it qualified as a true AFV which the campaign sits in.
I will look forward to taking part.
Cheers
Brian
It is the 1/48 bur was not sure it qualified as a true AFV which the campaign sits in.
I will look forward to taking part.
Cheers
Brian
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Posted: Tuesday, February 03, 2015 - 06:29 PM UTC
I'm in. Decided to do my first campaign as an oddball since I needed to fill my cart with something. So I'm doing a Chinese Type 83 SPG with a PE detail set for $22.
We'll see how I do at this armor thing given I've built aircraft most of my life.
Matt
We'll see how I do at this armor thing given I've built aircraft most of my life.
Matt
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Posted: Thursday, February 05, 2015 - 11:56 AM UTC
Quoted Text
Quoted TextWondering if this campaign is gaining any steam...
Sorry, I´ve been quite busy in the last few days... but I´m trying to put more coal in the oven
I think Eric nailed it: "I say $25 covers it all up to the paint, simple. What ever deal you can score for that is what you go with"
So I´d come up with that:
Whatever kit you can find for less than 25$, 20€, 20£ or a simmilar ammount of your favourite currency, can take part.
You´re allowed to use some spares, plasic card and evergreen, same as what you need for scartching (which is highly encuraged)
All your paints and weathering solutions can be used, without calculating them in.
Usual campaign rules apply:
one award per person, kit must be less than 10% started on the first day, at least a photo of the unstarted kit and 3 in-progress in the campaign therad, one completed in the gallery...
You´re fine with that?
I think we have to exclude figures only, and anything smaller than 1:48, simply for the reason that it isn´t that hard getting a kit retailing below our limits... or is there some interrest here, that we have to set an extra limit for that kind of builds? I´m quite longe gone out of the small scale business...
Well I'm looking to get in on the action, as a member of Armorama for some time it's time I added some content on this site, so forgive me if I stuff up in the posting etc etc, As a Kiwi my expenditure is around (US25)$33.63NZ. Great as I purchased a Tamiya Super Pershing for NZ$25, This may allow me one possible upgrade, maybe a turned barrel??? cheers Les
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Posted: Thursday, February 19, 2015 - 02:43 PM UTC
Well Guy's it's definatly the 20th here so I'm going to make a start on my entry.
Only opened for the purpose of doing a review, here....
http://armorama.kitmaker.net/review/10672
Just for a laugh here is the proof of what the kit cost!
I don't think it'll take that long to build but adding all the welds will!
Paul
Only opened for the purpose of doing a review, here....
http://armorama.kitmaker.net/review/10672
Just for a laugh here is the proof of what the kit cost!
I don't think it'll take that long to build but adding all the welds will!
Paul
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Posted: Thursday, February 19, 2015 - 03:57 PM UTC
I've just used the Archer resin transfer weld lines. They'd be very good for those long flat welds but cost-wise may take you over the limit.
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Posted: Thursday, February 19, 2015 - 04:39 PM UTC
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I've just used the Archer resin transfer weld lines. They'd be very good for those long flat welds but cost-wise may take you over the limit.
If so, stretched sprue came a long way...
Have fun chaps. I guess it will still take some time time until I can enter...
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Posted: Thursday, February 19, 2015 - 04:43 PM UTC
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I've just used the Archer resin transfer weld lines. They'd be very good for those long flat welds but cost-wise may take you over the limit.
I have a pack I bought when they first came out no-idea what I paid though!
Stretched sprue might do, never tried it so maybe I'll try using my pyro tool as they cast most of them, as plain bar on the kit! The worst missing one is the one that should be around the rear armoured pieces covering the rear wheels. Nice big semi-circular welds completely missed off, very wide and rough, maybe I'll do that one in filler.
The other intresting thing will be the paint job. Period pics being b/w make the cammo colours hard to read. Reference of the real one in Poland and the repro one in another Polish museum show the same style of cammo but in different colours! One is grey with brown stripes and the other(the repro I think) is light grey with a darker grey stripe as is also the illustration on the Toro models 1/72nd resin version.
Paul
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Posted: Friday, February 20, 2015 - 05:20 AM UTC
I'm already in the expensive project (Going Whole Hog!! Campaign). Taking a part in this project could be a healthy counterbalance.
Fabian, I've a doubt about my kit. I'm not quite sure if it will stick to the rules.
Few years ago I've bought on eBay an incomplete (and partly broken) set of Yugoslavian T-34 Vozilo A.
I'm pretty sure that it cost me less than 20$. Otherwise I wouldn't buy it.
To finish this tank, I would use lower hull and a whole suspension from DML T-34/85 (6810 Chinese volunteer).
Is it OK for this campaign, or it sounds to expensive?
Marek/Mark
Fabian, I've a doubt about my kit. I'm not quite sure if it will stick to the rules.
Few years ago I've bought on eBay an incomplete (and partly broken) set of Yugoslavian T-34 Vozilo A.
I'm pretty sure that it cost me less than 20$. Otherwise I wouldn't buy it.
To finish this tank, I would use lower hull and a whole suspension from DML T-34/85 (6810 Chinese volunteer).
Is it OK for this campaign, or it sounds to expensive?
Marek/Mark
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Posted: Friday, February 20, 2015 - 06:47 AM UTC
My 1970's Tamiya Chieftain still in the plastic. Tonight Its drink beer, turn up the tunes, cut and glue vintage styrene!
Wow, one beer and the world turned sideways... Ill work on getting some better pics in
Wow, one beer and the world turned sideways... Ill work on getting some better pics in
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Posted: Friday, February 20, 2015 - 03:51 PM UTC
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Is it OK for this campaign, or it sounds to expensive?
Marek, as I said before, using "some spares" is ok. It only seems you got a pretty full box...
It´s a bit of a grey area, indeed. Not shure what to "calcuate" for the Dragon kit...
I´m tempted to allow it, hope that´s ok for everyone.
Looking forward to your build then.
@Eric: Have you tried fixing it with another beer?
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Posted: Friday, February 20, 2015 - 07:31 PM UTC
Fabian, you are not convinced by my choice and I understand it. The boundaries of this project are soft, so this is why I put the question to you. It might be better if I start with a crappy TK-S or TK-3 tankette and I will keep this mutated T-34 for another campaign
Marek
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Posted: Friday, February 20, 2015 - 08:47 PM UTC
I thought that the campaign rules said that the kit and other accessories need only be bought for less than the equalivant of $25 USD or whatever the amount in other currencies. If he had bought it for less than $25 in his native currency, I don't see why it can't be included? If the spares cane with the kit or if it's coming out if his spares box, then that would be fine, wouldn't it?
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Posted: Friday, February 20, 2015 - 10:24 PM UTC
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I thought that the campaign rules said that the kit and other accessories need only be bought for less than the equalivant of $25 USD or whatever the amount in other currencies. If he had bought it for less than $25 in his native currency, I don't see why it can't be included? If the spares cane with the kit or if it's coming out if his spares box, then that would be fine, wouldn't it?
Absolutely, the problem is (if I got that right) the conversion kit was less then 20USD, not including the Dragon kit. Litterally using half of another kit, is a bit more than a "some spares"... hence the Dragon kit should have been calculated in the entire expenses. But how much of it?
As I sated somewhere before, if you´re not aware of the price you bought it, you can go with current market value. In this case, a kit with simmilar to Dragon Imperial "quality", partially started, almost 20 years old... which (on a scecond thought) can´t be that much, although can be still blow the budged.
As Marek said, "the boundaries of this project are soft", especially in such cases. If you read my first statement, I hope I made clear that I haven´t banned it from taking part, just expressed my reservations.
@Marek: It would be perfectly fine to me, if you´d choose to enter with your strange T-34... Actually I´d like to see it beeing build.
How about you use the left over hull and turret and surprise us with a second T-34 sunken in mud? Something like that?
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Posted: Friday, February 20, 2015 - 10:51 PM UTC
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Posted: Saturday, February 21, 2015 - 09:46 AM UTC
Gary, that looks awesome so far.
I managed to get some solid time in on the Chieftain, I finished the construction and scratched my head, 16 steps and you've got a chunk of plastic in the rough shape of a tank. I did make a mantlet cover out of apoxie sculpt as it just looked far too empty as it was.
Time for a shot of primer!
And Fabian, a few more brews and everything evened out nicely
Eric.
I managed to get some solid time in on the Chieftain, I finished the construction and scratched my head, 16 steps and you've got a chunk of plastic in the rough shape of a tank. I did make a mantlet cover out of apoxie sculpt as it just looked far too empty as it was.
Time for a shot of primer!
And Fabian, a few more brews and everything evened out nicely
Eric.