Hi all,
Welcome to the Official Tank Destroyer Campaign and Happy new Year!
i have been totally bowled over at the response of people signing up for this campaign, i didn't think it would get much interest, boy was i wrong.
for those of you who haven't enlisted but would like to here is the link to join the campaign, along with all the rules :
Tank Destroyers Campaign
and here is the link the gallery, so that you can post your completed kits/subjects
Tank Destroyer Gallery
Could one of the Mods please Sticky this for me please, thanks in advance.
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Official Tank Destroyers Campaign
Klaus-Adler
Campaigns Administrator
Scotland, United Kingdom
Joined: June 08, 2015
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Joined: June 08, 2015
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Posted: Thursday, January 02, 2020 - 09:48 PM UTC
Posted: Friday, January 03, 2020 - 12:07 AM UTC
Happy New Year!
Here is my entry into this campaign. AFV's M36 Jackson Tank Destroyer.
Mark
Here is my entry into this campaign. AFV's M36 Jackson Tank Destroyer.
Mark
Posted: Friday, January 03, 2020 - 01:49 AM UTC
I am going to join with the Revell 1/35 M901A1 ITV tank hunter.
I have not started or even decided on the camouflage yet. More to follow later, but below are some of the pictures I use as inspiration for my build.
I have not started or even decided on the camouflage yet. More to follow later, but below are some of the pictures I use as inspiration for my build.
BravoTwoZero
California, United States
Joined: June 11, 2009
KitMaker: 461 posts
Armorama: 370 posts
Joined: June 11, 2009
KitMaker: 461 posts
Armorama: 370 posts
Posted: Friday, January 03, 2020 - 04:34 AM UTC
Hello everyone, this will be my entry for this campaign.
Thanks!
Thanks!
sinsling
Singapore / 新加坡
Joined: January 16, 2007
KitMaker: 86 posts
Armorama: 85 posts
Joined: January 16, 2007
KitMaker: 86 posts
Armorama: 85 posts
Posted: Friday, January 03, 2020 - 06:58 AM UTC
Johnnych01
England - South West, United Kingdom
Joined: June 29, 2019
KitMaker: 604 posts
Armorama: 506 posts
Joined: June 29, 2019
KitMaker: 604 posts
Armorama: 506 posts
Posted: Friday, January 03, 2020 - 07:17 AM UTC
inital pic of my entry.
PE & contents.
nsjohn
Scotland, United Kingdom
Joined: July 26, 2018
KitMaker: 279 posts
Armorama: 265 posts
Joined: July 26, 2018
KitMaker: 279 posts
Armorama: 265 posts
Posted: Friday, January 03, 2020 - 09:42 AM UTC
You're Welcome. Saves me re posting from the proposal thread. Interesting to compare the two, as I understand Tamiya made quite a few changes to the M10 kit to change it into the M10 17 pounder.
hetzer44
Maryland, United States
Joined: December 21, 2005
KitMaker: 241 posts
Armorama: 124 posts
Joined: December 21, 2005
KitMaker: 241 posts
Armorama: 124 posts
Posted: Friday, January 03, 2020 - 10:07 AM UTC
Here's my entry into this campaign. My first Romanian build.
Cheers everyone!
chuck
Posted: Friday, January 03, 2020 - 10:45 AM UTC
Great to see so many builds kicking off. Here is my opening build photo again:
Happy modelling!
Happy modelling!
petbat
Queensland, Australia
Joined: August 06, 2005
KitMaker: 3,353 posts
Armorama: 3,121 posts
Joined: August 06, 2005
KitMaker: 3,353 posts
Armorama: 3,121 posts
Posted: Friday, January 03, 2020 - 11:43 AM UTC
Are those Indy links I see Gaz...… I thought you swore off!
Let me know if you want reference pics
Let me know if you want reference pics
iam2brb
South Carolina, United States
Joined: December 31, 2016
KitMaker: 136 posts
Armorama: 95 posts
Joined: December 31, 2016
KitMaker: 136 posts
Armorama: 95 posts
Posted: Friday, January 03, 2020 - 12:00 PM UTC
Question - is the SU-122 considered a tank destroyer, or a field gun?
Klaus-Adler
Campaigns Administrator
Scotland, United Kingdom
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Posted: Friday, January 03, 2020 - 12:19 PM UTC
Quoted Text
Question - is the SU-122 considered a tank destroyer, or a field gun?
anyone else want to answer that as I not an expert in Russian afv's
nsjohn
Scotland, United Kingdom
Joined: July 26, 2018
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Joined: July 26, 2018
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Posted: Friday, January 03, 2020 - 01:37 PM UTC
Difficult one. The 122 mm was a field howitzer and Stephen Hart's book on Russian Tanks describes it as an SPG with a primary tactical role to provide direct infantry support attacking prepared defences. They also served in Soviet medium SP artillery regiments. However, they did have HEAT rounds for anti-armour capability, and much the same could be said for the Stug 111, certainly the earlier models, and I don't think anyone would question a Stug being included in this campaign.
sinsling
Singapore / 新加坡
Joined: January 16, 2007
KitMaker: 86 posts
Armorama: 85 posts
Joined: January 16, 2007
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Armorama: 85 posts
Posted: Friday, January 03, 2020 - 03:32 PM UTC
I think its a question of primary tactical value. While a howitzer based spg could carry a few HEAT rounds for when things got dicey, its primary role would be as artillery and fire support. The early StuG 3s carried the short 75mm L/24 gun primarily for infantry support. But as the war developed, the need for anti tank support became increasingly important. Although the short barrelled StuGs could destroy tanks, they had to advance perilously close, which wasn't ideal and was not their intended role. A change was thus effected by the Waffenamt, causing the StuG 3 to be armed with the 75mm StuK 40, a high velocity weapon primarily designed to destroy armor. Thats why the 105mm StuH was developed thereafter to address the need for infantry field support. So, IMHO SU-122s would be more like artillery, as opposed to the SU-85 and 100. StuK 40 armed Stugs could be construed as tank killers, but the StuH and StuG 3 A through E were primarily artillery. Just my $0.05 worth of input.
brekinapez
Georgia, United States
Joined: July 26, 2013
KitMaker: 2,272 posts
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Joined: July 26, 2013
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Posted: Friday, January 03, 2020 - 04:17 PM UTC
My entry:
Posted: Friday, January 03, 2020 - 05:21 PM UTC
In with this big beast:
bison126
Correze, France
Joined: June 10, 2004
KitMaker: 5,329 posts
Armorama: 5,204 posts
Joined: June 10, 2004
KitMaker: 5,329 posts
Armorama: 5,204 posts
Posted: Friday, January 03, 2020 - 07:34 PM UTC
No pics yet for me but my entry will be the AMX 13 with SS11.
As I participate in another campaign I think I'll start this one in a couple of months.
Enjoy the campaign for all the enlistees.
Olivier
As I participate in another campaign I think I'll start this one in a couple of months.
Enjoy the campaign for all the enlistees.
Olivier
Johnnych01
England - South West, United Kingdom
Joined: June 29, 2019
KitMaker: 604 posts
Armorama: 506 posts
Joined: June 29, 2019
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Armorama: 506 posts
Posted: Friday, January 03, 2020 - 07:46 PM UTC
ComradeMP, sorry to put a downer on your entry, but David haa already mentioned in the original thread for this campaign that only produced / in service vehicles are allowed in this build, no paper panzers or what if's ...
I also agree with Sinsling, the SU 122 was primarily designed as an infantry heavy support platform (artillery) and not a tank killer so going on its primary design role, I would say no ... just my opinion.
I also agree with Sinsling, the SU 122 was primarily designed as an infantry heavy support platform (artillery) and not a tank killer so going on its primary design role, I would say no ... just my opinion.
Klaus-Adler
Campaigns Administrator
Scotland, United Kingdom
Joined: June 08, 2015
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Posted: Friday, January 03, 2020 - 09:35 PM UTC
Quoted Text
ComradeMP, sorry to put a downer on your entry, but David haa already mentioned in the original thread for this campaign that only produced / in service vehicles are allowed in this build, no paper panzers or what if's ...
I also agree with Sinsling, the SU 122 was primarily designed as an infantry heavy support platform (artillery) and not a tank killer so going on its primary design role, I would say no ... just my opinion.
it's a tricky one that's for sure because if like me you play world of tanks then you find that vehicle in the tank destroyers tech tree.
rather than force someone to buy another kit I'm prepared to let this one in as it did have specific ammunition for destroying enemy tanks rather just improvising using what vehicles were lying around as it where.
as for paper panzers, I will leave that to later on this year as there seems to be a growing interest in that area.
PasiAhopelto
Uusimaa, Finland
Joined: October 01, 2016
KitMaker: 514 posts
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Joined: October 01, 2016
KitMaker: 514 posts
Armorama: 171 posts
Posted: Friday, January 03, 2020 - 11:49 PM UTC
Here's my entry:
I tried to build Miniart's SU-85 with interior perhaps two years ago, but the amount of work spent on interior was just too much. Hopefully better luck with simpler version of the same model.
Planning to paint this to all green scheme.
I tried to build Miniart's SU-85 with interior perhaps two years ago, but the amount of work spent on interior was just too much. Hopefully better luck with simpler version of the same model.
Planning to paint this to all green scheme.
iam2brb
South Carolina, United States
Joined: December 31, 2016
KitMaker: 136 posts
Armorama: 95 posts
Joined: December 31, 2016
KitMaker: 136 posts
Armorama: 95 posts
Posted: Saturday, January 04, 2020 - 12:49 AM UTC
Quoted Text
Quoted TextComradeMP, sorry to put a downer on your entry, but David haa already mentioned in the original thread for this campaign that only produced / in service vehicles are allowed in this build, no paper panzers or what if's ...
I also agree with Sinsling, the SU 122 was primarily designed as an infantry heavy support platform (artillery) and not a tank killer so going on its primary design role, I would say no ... just my opinion.
it's a tricky one that's for sure because if like me you play world of tanks then you find that vehicle in the tank destroyers tech tree.
rather than force someone to buy another kit I'm prepared to let this one in as it did have specific ammunition for destroying enemy tanks rather just improvising using what vehicles were lying around as it where.
as for paper panzers, I will leave that to later on this year as there seems to be a growing interest in that area.
Oh, I really want to thank everyone for their responses related to this. I think everyone is RIGHT, this is not a true TD. Sometimes, the question is also the answer. But I think everyone for their responses. I have several campaigns that I am committed to, so I may join this later in the year with a proper entry.
k_mero4
Sofiya, Bulgaria
Joined: November 26, 2017
KitMaker: 393 posts
Armorama: 369 posts
Joined: November 26, 2017
KitMaker: 393 posts
Armorama: 369 posts
Posted: Saturday, January 04, 2020 - 01:59 AM UTC
Happy New Year everyone!
I couldn't wait to start the campaign. And ...
More than a year ago I bought a model of the Gunze. The campaign is the perfect place to present and assemble it.
Here are the initial photos.
Have fun and succeed.
Kalin
I couldn't wait to start the campaign. And ...
More than a year ago I bought a model of the Gunze. The campaign is the perfect place to present and assemble it.
Here are the initial photos.
Have fun and succeed.
Kalin
Klaus-Adler
Campaigns Administrator
Scotland, United Kingdom
Joined: June 08, 2015
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Posted: Saturday, January 04, 2020 - 06:28 AM UTC
I have now updated the rules as it was kindly pointed out that i hadn't updated them since the old thread so that has now been taken care of.
i still need to find an engine for this kit, so if anyone has any info regarding after market jagdtiger engines in 1/35 scale i would appreciate it.
and her is my starting picture:
i still need to find an engine for this kit, so if anyone has any info regarding after market jagdtiger engines in 1/35 scale i would appreciate it.
and her is my starting picture:
Johnnych01
England - South West, United Kingdom
Joined: June 29, 2019
KitMaker: 604 posts
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Joined: June 29, 2019
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Armorama: 506 posts
Posted: Saturday, January 04, 2020 - 07:10 AM UTC
Hi David ... copycat... looks like its another Jagdtiger lol... still you cant get enough of them ...
I would try the TAMIYA 35180 German Engine Maintenance Crew as a start point, its basic but a decent lump to start from with some basic scratch add ons like wire and tubing etc it works ok. I've used it a few times in the past.
John
I would try the TAMIYA 35180 German Engine Maintenance Crew as a start point, its basic but a decent lump to start from with some basic scratch add ons like wire and tubing etc it works ok. I've used it a few times in the past.
John
Posted: Saturday, January 04, 2020 - 07:44 AM UTC
OK, here's my entry. Already planning on how to replace the DS tracks which, as you can see, have turned into junk in their packaging!