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The Greatest Ever Modern Tanks Campaign
Danial
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Singapore / 新加坡
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Posted: Friday, September 29, 2006 - 04:01 PM UTC

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hi guys, seeing lotsa fantastic work out there! I'm still constructing the s tank, progress is slow, but here are some pics of my progress





hope i can make the deadline...



haha...same here...is yours the 103B or 103C? im doin the 103B...same like you, hope to meet the deadline...
kevinb120
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Posted: Friday, September 29, 2006 - 11:48 PM UTC
I got sick of the Italeri M1A2, canned it and picked up the DML AIM. I hope I have time to get it done now

Is anyone else doing the new kit? I am actually using the plastic barrel over the aluminum one it looks that darn good.
kevinb120
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Posted: Saturday, October 07, 2006 - 11:21 AM UTC
Well I've been working on the M1. I love the extended bustle rack! Was a pain to build but would be easy with a hold and fold, two straight razors and a pair of tweezers and two MK1 thumbs takes some patience Most major components like the APU, hatches, and baskets are not glued yet. Gotta get the skirts and mg mounts done and I can get to the fun part Great kit overall, gotta be patient with cleanup and some pre-fitting but it can be done filler-free.

Major problems are the same as everyone else has noted:

-the MUST FIX problem with the large, thick moulded 'support' under the forward sponsoon above the roller that must be shaved or removed or the track will not fit. It takes some effort so doing it on an assembled model would be very tough.

-some cleanup on small parts is tedious

-various instruction part # mistakes and lack of clarity for parts placement have you flipping
constantly to the paint scheme photos and refferences

-generally either perfect fit or a handfull of parts have lousy fit(front suspension arm halves and engine cover U13 take some very carefull reworking in particular)....Shaving the angle sharper on the foward edge of U13 got it fit flush. The forward arms (V5/4) should have the locating 'block' shaved off and the round ends of the gas struts (V10/11) should be sanded/thinned by 50% so the halves (V23/24) will mate flush.

-running gear is tough to get lined up, the seemingly agressive locator notches are worthless-keep a ruler handy. Not to bad if you get the front two arms set on the model(don't trust the allignment on the worktable) with a rear arm friction fit for refference. Then friction fit the main arms, check multiple times with a straightedge, and glue from behind..

-another instruction problem-PAY ATTENTION TO ALL DRILL WARNINGS, a couple are out of sequence-check em all off before putting the hull/turret halves together.

-PE is not for the faint of heart, definately not a first timers model

-plastic barrel takes some carefull cleanup and is much better then the metal one. Need to be carefull with allignment of the two main parts.

-mantlet is a poor fit on the top front edge-fixed with superthin strip styrene.

-instructions extremely vague on certain components, mainly the headlight assemblies and some turret conduit and hatch details. Be religious fully checking off all parts numbers as you go along.

-no additional instructions for mounting accessories such as the spare roadwheels. I will have to wait to see whats left on the sprues.

-be CAREFULL with decals-do NOT trust the instructions, the APU and other stenciling should be checked with refferences, and apparently the kit's "68" is too big with corrected ones provided but not updated on the instructions.

Sounds like a lot, but no more then any huge parts count kit. Still nothing like the average ship model. The great detail of the kit easilly outweighs any minor flaws. Just prefit everything at least 3-4 times and you will be fine. I have only spent about 10 evenings to get to this point. A couple fresh 400/600 sanding sticks with a deft touch make quick work of prepping parts.

In primer for final fit checks:



jazza
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Singapore / 新加坡
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Posted: Saturday, October 07, 2006 - 12:34 PM UTC
Hey kevin, i think its great that you are sharing out your building experience with this kit. I posted the same suggestion in your original thread but would it be possible to highlight these points you talk about in your build instruction, scan it and share it out with everyone?

Im waiting for this kit to arrive here in NZ and would really like to reflect back on your points when i make a start on this kit.
emroglan
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Istanbul, Turkey / Türkçe
Joined: December 16, 2004
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Posted: Saturday, October 07, 2006 - 05:48 PM UTC
Greetings all!

Here's my 1/72 Revell M1A2 Abrams tank, fresh in the oven. I started the construction about 8 pm yesterday, through a football game on TV, chatting on the MSN and dinner, got this much covered 2 am this morning. Not bad for 6 hours of "non"-dedicated modelling, eh?

I loved the kit. It is my second 1/72 kit, fits great, detail is fairly good and very very easy to assemble. Needs minor corrections and drilling for the gun barrel, but no sweat. I was a little confused as to how to fit some parts, a little scouting is able to fix the issue.

For this kit, I didn't use ANY reference, going straight out of the box. I have 3 1/35 scale M1 Abrams kits in my stash ( the old Tamiya, Trumpeter M1A1H1 with mineplows and Dragon Iraq 2003) so this is sort of like some practice before I really get down to business with those beasts.

Here are the pics :



Test fitting:


Cheers All!
jazza
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Posted: Sunday, October 08, 2006 - 01:48 AM UTC
Am quite impressed with the 1/72 scale so far. They seem to not cut corners in terms of details and in some cases, they do well when place side by side with their 1/35 scale cousins.

The smoke launchers do look a little misplaced though. They should be pointing almost in a 45 degree frontal direction. The ones on your kit do look a tad high. Was this a kit error?
emroglan
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Posted: Sunday, October 08, 2006 - 10:59 AM UTC
I couldn't figure out if it is my mistake or the kits, I think it is both. I didn't check and references as I said (which I should have) and the locator pin behind the piece is somewhat triangular, there's only one way to fit it and this seemed to be it. After I checked through some M1s (and saw the picture of the Abrams assembly right two messages up) it was obvious to me as well.

I think I will perform a minor surgery and correct my mistake. Thanks for the heads-up Jazza.
kevinb120
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Posted: Sunday, October 08, 2006 - 11:11 AM UTC
that looks pretty darn good The launchers do look like they are oriented on the correct sides, so it should be a quick fix just to rotate them forward.
gbkirsch
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Posted: Monday, October 09, 2006 - 01:45 AM UTC

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Here's my 1/72 Revell M1A2 Abrams tank, fresh in the oven.



Nice progress for such a short time!

Gary
Tomek_K
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Wojewodztwo Dolnoslaskie, Poland
Joined: August 12, 2005
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Posted: Monday, October 09, 2006 - 07:18 PM UTC
Hi all

I'm joining this campaign with 1/72 DML Leopard 2A4 in Polish painting.

gbkirsch
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Posted: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 - 08:26 PM UTC

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I'm joining this campaign with 1/72 DML Leopard 2A4 in Polish painting.



That sounds great Tomek, IMHO Polish camo schemes are interesting!

Gary
Tomek_K
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Wojewodztwo Dolnoslaskie, Poland
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Posted: Thursday, October 12, 2006 - 05:57 PM UTC
Thank you for interesting Gary, but I must disappoint you. Polish Leos are in standard NATO 3 tone camo.
http://www.10bkpanc.sow.mil.pl/kronika/cwiczenia/images/strzelkcz_14.JPG

However we have also winter camouflage:
http://www.10bkpanc.sow.mil.pl/kronika/2006_2/images/006_2.JPG
http://www.10bkpanc.sow.mil.pl/kronika/2006_2/images/006_1.JPG

And talking about interesting camos, this one from Austria is really impressive. Here you can find 3 pictures:
http://www.doppeladler.com/oebh/hp2005.htm

gbkirsch
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Posted: Thursday, October 19, 2006 - 09:38 AM UTC

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Thank you for interesting Gary, but I must disappoint you. Polish Leos are in standard NATO 3 tone camo.



Well Tomek, I stand corrected. Thanks for the info and the winter camo is very interesting. As for the Austrian camo, gives new meaning to the term Leopard!!!

Thanks again,
Gary
DeskJockey
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Posted: Saturday, October 21, 2006 - 08:13 AM UTC
If allowed, I'll go ahead and enlist to build a USMC M60A1 from the Gulf War. Those old war horses kept going after 30+ years in service, and they look positively brutish with the ERA add-ons. I know we're just a couple of months away from the deadline, but I'll build OOB and hopefully finish with time to spare.
jazza
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Posted: Saturday, October 21, 2006 - 11:53 AM UTC

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If allowed, I'll go ahead and enlist to build a USMC M60A1 from the Gulf War. Those old war horses kept going after 30+ years in service, and they look positively brutish with the ERA add-ons. I know we're just a couple of months away from the deadline, but I'll build OOB and hopefully finish with time to spare.



Of course you are allowed Lucas. You can enlist on the very last day if you wanted as long as you were able to complete it on the same day.

Welcome to the campaign!
Danial
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Posted: Saturday, October 21, 2006 - 12:26 PM UTC
here are mine...they are still in progress..old kit i'm trying to salvage from the bin..





jazza
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Posted: Saturday, October 21, 2006 - 03:53 PM UTC

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here are mine...they are still in progress..old kit i'm trying to salvage from the bin..



For an old kit, it still looks in pretty good shape. Maybe its the photo but that looks like its a 1/48 scale?
Danial
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Posted: Saturday, October 21, 2006 - 07:06 PM UTC

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For an old kit, it still looks in pretty good shape. Maybe its the photo but that looks like its a 1/48 scale?



haha..its a 1/35 academy kit..decals are from micro scale..
not too sure the hoffmann device was used in iraq but it kinda looked cool so i attached it to the gun when i previously did the painting.
can somebody enlighten me on this?
Erik67
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Posted: Saturday, October 21, 2006 - 07:12 PM UTC
Hoffman is for training purposes only. It is not used in combat operations.

Erik
Danial
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Posted: Saturday, October 21, 2006 - 07:46 PM UTC

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Hoffman is for training purposes only. It is not used in combat operations.

Erik



Thanks Erik, point taken. should have done some research before i put it on.
DeskJockey
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Posted: Sunday, October 22, 2006 - 07:19 AM UTC
I've gone ahead and enlisted, so I'd better get cracking on that Tamiya Desert Storm M60A1! Right now I've got the lower hull built and am trying to fill that ugly gap between the lower hull tob and the two top strips (why did Tamiya split the lower hull like this?
armorjunior
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Posted: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 - 11:26 AM UTC
im working on the dragon m1a1 AIM

bout half done assembling the turret and i still need to piant the tank
kevinb120
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Posted: Monday, November 06, 2006 - 08:49 AM UTC
I'm still slowly but surely working on mine. Have the tracks setup now ready for paint. Just have the initial airbrush shading done so far, will go over it again when its been decaled. Definately the easiest tracks in the world to work with

Danial
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Posted: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 - 09:59 AM UTC

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here are mine...they are still in progress..old kit i'm trying to salvage from the bin..








here are the updated ones i have done so far..im left on the drybrushing and weathering part.









GnrSebs2414
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Posted: Friday, November 10, 2006 - 07:17 PM UTC
hiya guys,this is my first campain,how do i put my photos on the campain?