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Bayern, Germany
Joined: October 22, 2013
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Posted: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 - 10:06 AM UTC

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@Fabian: That's awesome work you've done on that build. I presume that is real wood, both for the side "armor" and planking?


Thanks, until now it´s my favorite of what if done in the past years...
and you´re right, the "second" floor was made out Balsa Wood, the side "amour" (i think it´s suppposed to be a corduroy bridge) was made out of sticks from the garden

the Tristar Flak is a hell of work, but you´re getting a lot of bang for your bucks... hope to get something done on the weekend
eMan
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Hong Kong S.A.R. / 繁體
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Posted: Wednesday, October 23, 2013 - 08:39 PM UTC
Progress of my Mobelwagen.


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Bayern, Germany
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Posted: Sunday, October 27, 2013 - 10:40 AM UTC
nice, a Möbelwagen is on my todo, too
But just allow me one question...where is all the funiture?

Had some time this Weekend, the flak is now completed




eMan
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Posted: Monday, October 28, 2013 - 08:47 PM UTC
More update progress.


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Møre og Romsdal, Norway
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Posted: Tuesday, October 29, 2013 - 08:41 PM UTC
Really nice progress on that Möbelwagen, Lap Man.

I like the camo!

@Fabian: That wooden base is awesome. Those nails must have been fiddly to apply?
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Bayern, Germany
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Posted: Tuesday, October 29, 2013 - 10:43 PM UTC
Glad you think so
I haven't used more than you can see in the picture ...

A needle and thinned black oil color, pretty easy, pretty fast
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eMan
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Posted: Thursday, October 31, 2013 - 08:27 PM UTC
Mobelwagen Sd.Kfz.161/3 3.7cm Flak auf Fgst Pz.Kpfw.IV(sf) finished.



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Møre og Romsdal, Norway
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Posted: Friday, November 01, 2013 - 10:26 AM UTC
Impressive Möbelwagen!
TMoon
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Texas, United States
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Posted: Sunday, November 03, 2013 - 09:04 AM UTC
Here is my in process photo of the Flak 38 20mm ready for the paint booth.



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Posted: Wednesday, November 06, 2013 - 03:50 PM UTC
Oil wash on the Gepard is under way, along with the tracks.




I'm thinking of trying something new and applying a sand colored wash to the black areas.

Keith
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Posted: Saturday, November 09, 2013 - 04:40 PM UTC
Applied a dust colored oil wash to the black camo portions. I've seen the technique used on the black undersides of night-fighter aircraft. The idea is the that same colored dirt looks different on dark surfaces vs light. Such as the same dust and rainwater looks light-colored on my wife's dark blue car and brown or dark grey on my beige car. Either way, it adds some contrast and a different look to the finish.



Keith
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Posted: Sunday, November 10, 2013 - 03:17 AM UTC
Looks great! That wash on the dark areas really brings out the detail in those areas. I had little trouble on mine due to the desert camo that I used! Again Looking good!
Quasimofo
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New York, United States
Joined: November 30, 2012
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Posted: Saturday, November 16, 2013 - 01:09 PM UTC
Awwwww....I had thought this campaign was over already! I started a Flakpanzer V two weeks ago that I would have submitted. Dang! Really thought this was over a month or two ago. Oh well.

Really loving the work you guys are sharing... Great jobs, everyone!
woltersk
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Posted: Saturday, November 16, 2013 - 10:54 PM UTC
@Fabian--Great looking Flak and your woodwork is fantastic! The patina effect and aged nail holes are awesome. I'll have to remember your technique.

@Lap Man--Love the squiggle camo and your weathering job.

@Tom--Lookin' good! How's the painting coming?

@Lonewolf--Thanks! That's high praise coming from a modeler of your calibre. I may just finish this one by the campaign cut-off. What are you working on now?

@Bill--been there, done the same thing. How far along are you on it? If you just started it perhaps you can ask for a waiver?

Keith
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Posted: Sunday, November 17, 2013 - 12:54 AM UTC
@ Keith

Thanks! I'm working on a trumpeter ASU-85 for the Trumpeter campaign and an Ontos for the Vietnam campaign!
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Posted: Sunday, November 17, 2013 - 03:35 AM UTC

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@Bill--been there, done the same thing. How far along are you on it? If you just started it perhaps you can ask for a waiver?



Thanks for the idea, Keith, but I started the Flakpanzer V two weeks ago, but already have it painted...just need to do a few more odds 'n ends and it'll be ready for weathering. So, it is way too far along to ask to be submitted to the campaign.

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Oklahoma, United States
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Posted: Sunday, November 17, 2013 - 04:03 AM UTC
Hey all,

I haven't forgotten about the campaign, I've just been swamped with preparations to reopen the museum. With budget cuts and staff reductions, it's been a challenge, but we're almost there.

Now, the good thing is, I've had to do a LOT of model building to get ready for the reopening. One of the projects I have going is a full concept model of the proposed new ADA Museum building in 35th scale!

Fortunately, since I have an M39 in the collection, I'm able to get some work done on the M39/M45 combo. I've done a significant amount of research into the single vehicle thus modified too. I figured out that it was not an M55 towed-quad that was matched with the M39, but a halftrack mounted M45 turret on the standard halftrack ring mount. I also figured out the reason behind the setup: unlike other AAA battalions in Korea, the 26th (which had been thrown together from Batteries from three different Battalions, hence the 52nd AAA bumper codes) had no M19 40mm GMCs, only M16 halftracks! They needed a more mobile AAA platform, and removing the turret from one of their halftracks and adding it to one of the two HQ Battery M39s was an effective solution to the mobility limitations of the halftrack.

So, I've finally been able to order the Legend M39 conversion this week, so I should be able to get this puppy complete by Friday.

The turret is from the AFV Club M35A1 gun truck. For some reason, that kit includes halftrack ring mounts rather than the M20 trailer mount. Since I've converted that truck to an M54 5-ton and I'm adding an M55 towed quad to it, the kit turret was available and ready to add to the M39.

So, here it is so far. Once I get the conversion kit, I'll have the turret properly spaced for height.


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England - East Anglia, United Kingdom
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Posted: Monday, November 18, 2013 - 10:01 AM UTC
Hi all. I'm late joining with this campaign and I think I have my work cut out!



Anyway I made some good progress today



Sorry bad photos


I haven't got a lot of time to research, but I thought a three stage paint job might be best. Chassis, then engine and interior, then exterior panels etc. looks like I'm going to get to paint the chassis fairly soon. As I said I haven't much time to research, but what colour is the chassis, before weathering obviously. Also has anyone got a colour engine pic? I thought I'd ask before using artistic interpretation.

Thanks for your help

Andy
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Posted: Monday, November 18, 2013 - 10:11 AM UTC

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Hi all. I'm late joining with this campaign and I think I have my work cut out!



Anyway I made some good progress today



Sorry bad photos


I haven't got a lot of time to research, but I thought a three stage paint job might be best. Chassis, then engine and interior, then exterior panels etc. looks like I'm going to get to paint the chassis fairly soon. As I said I haven't much time to research, but what colour is the chassis, before weathering obviously. Also has anyone got a colour engine pic? I thought I'd ask before using artistic interpretation.

Thanks for your help

Andy



Andy, I'd go with a panzer grey for the chassis. Towards the later part of the war they would have been using up excess stock or what ever was available in quantity. Same goes for the engine! Have fun!!
Blackstoat
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Posted: Monday, November 18, 2013 - 10:21 AM UTC
Thanks buddy

The instructions suggested the engine is silver - seems pretty unlikely to me

I was wondering about primer red on the chassis?

All help is appreciated
Lonewolf7usa
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Posted: Monday, November 18, 2013 - 11:13 AM UTC
Andy ! Go for it! Theses vehicles showed up late in the war when the Allies were gaining air superiority and the Germans were putting flak guns on any thing that could carry them.They were also in a rush to get them to the troops so I wouldn't doubt that they went to the lines with chassis in primer.
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Posted: Monday, November 18, 2013 - 04:43 PM UTC

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@Bill--been there, done the same thing. How far along are you on it? If you just started it perhaps you can ask for a waiver?



Thanks for the idea, Keith, but I started the Flakpanzer V two weeks ago, but already have it painted...just need to do a few more odds 'n ends and it'll be ready for weathering. So, it is way too far along to ask to be submitted to the campaign.



Bill,
You got that far in two weeks!?! Shoot, it takes me that long to get the cellophane wrap off the box!
That's a good looking build though. It woulda looked great here.

Keith

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Posted: Monday, November 18, 2013 - 04:50 PM UTC
Dry fit the chassis top and bottom together and attached the radar antennae and gun barrels just to get an idea of the final look. More like teasing myself.







Some more weathering, the tow cables, whip antennas, tracks, and dullcoat are all that remain. Whew!

Keith

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Posted: Tuesday, November 19, 2013 - 05:20 AM UTC
Andy;

Your chassis color question: These big tracks were actually produced earlier in the war - SdKfz 7 production ended in mid-1944. The original Krauss-Maffei 8-ton track was a standard pre-war item, and the flakvierling 38 mount appeared on these tracks from 1940. While armored cabs might have been added later on as conversions, and one could I think reasonably argue that some of those last would have been perhaps less-well finished, the chassis (and actually the whole original gun-track with flakvierling 38) was a re-used item. I would bet that all of those chassis were properly painted -if this was a really late-war sWs, I would say different, but I really think that these older tracks would likely have been properly primed and then painted with the industrial black enamel common to the truck and auto industry.

I would suggest chassis under and inner surfaces be done black and then weathered - outside surfaces clearly visible to the outside would likely have been painted and repainted the prevailing base coats and maybe even camo.

If I was doing one of these and postulating a late-war armoring conversion, I'd consider leaving the armored cab interior in primer or poorly painted...

Just sayin' - my opinion, and all that!

Bob
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Posted: Tuesday, November 19, 2013 - 06:14 AM UTC
Thanks Bob. That tied in with my thinking.

I think I'll go with a tamiya dark iron on the less exposed areas. Red oxide the exposed parts, paint them desert yellow, then chip them to death!

Bonnet interior was always going to be red oxide. But I like your thinking on the cab interior.

Thanks for your input, it's appreciated