Hello guys. Happy new years.
Yes there will be a I beam that goes through that cut out over the door. It is attached now but have not taken photos of it yet. Will update soon with new photos of the progress.
At the moment i am a little indecisive on what i should do ontop of the dio. I thought of either ruins with some future nazi weapon.
Or a bunker entrance with rock soroundings that is overgrown with vegetation. Showing that the area has not been used for many years.
But i am thinking more of the first one. Maybe with an E100 tank on top.
Jarle.
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jk_conix
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Posted: Sunday, January 09, 2011 - 07:47 PM UTC
okdoky
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Hello guys. Happy new years.
Yes there will be a I beam that goes through that cut out over the door. It is attached now but have not taken photos of it yet. Will update soon with new photos of the progress.
At the moment i am a little indecisive on what i should do ontop of the dio. I thought of either ruins with some future nazi weapon.
Or a bunker entrance with rock soroundings that is overgrown with vegetation. Showing that the area has not been used for many years.
But i am thinking more of the first one. Maybe with an E100 tank on top.
Jarle.
Hi Jarle
How about an E100 with a conversion to coal gas since the Nazis have lost their access to diesel and petrol ? Either that or the E100 as a dug in static defence position with vegitation starting to grow in, on and around the hull ?
Good luck
Nige
FlaminPole
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Posted: Monday, January 10, 2011 - 06:23 AM UTC
Just my personal opinion, but put an Antiaircraft piece up there. I'm not sure how big an E100 would be in relation to the base, but it might draw to much attention. The US developed early seeking AA missiles in the late 40s, early 50s; so it wouldn't be to much of a stretch to think that the Nazis with their floating bell thing could have beaten us to a deployable system. For the modern look, take one of the paper-panzer hulls currently available and scratch up some sort of missile launcher on top! 
PunyViking
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Posted: Monday, January 10, 2011 - 07:42 AM UTC
I do agree! A anti aircraft gun or missiles, very camoflaged or overgrown with plants of some sort!
Keep up your great work! Looking good so far!
Keep up your great work! Looking good so far!
jk_conix
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Posted: Monday, January 10, 2011 - 06:42 PM UTC
I am going to try some stuff and see what fits. The E100 is pretty huge. When i put it next to a tiger 2 it is like its in a bigger scale even though they are in the same scale. I can take a photo of the E100 ontop of the dio. But i have a feeling like you guys mentioned that it could become just a little.... Dominant.
I am actually building my own custom 4 legged tank hehe. Thought i try it out. Maybe that will fit better since it is not as big and chunky as the E100. But we shall see.
An anti aircraft or an artillery post could be cool. Or missile launchers. Who knows what they would have cooked up after the war. I was thinking that this was a period of around the 50's beginning or in the end of the 40's. So they would have had time to develope some things that no one has seen yet. Ill come up with some examples and see where i go from there. Thanks for the ideas. More of them is welcome.
And i have allready made plans for the next dio after this. Just drawings yet. But something in the same theme but in another location and for another purpose. It will be something to do with the black sun project. Or über soldats.
I am actually building my own custom 4 legged tank hehe. Thought i try it out. Maybe that will fit better since it is not as big and chunky as the E100. But we shall see.
An anti aircraft or an artillery post could be cool. Or missile launchers. Who knows what they would have cooked up after the war. I was thinking that this was a period of around the 50's beginning or in the end of the 40's. So they would have had time to develope some things that no one has seen yet. Ill come up with some examples and see where i go from there. Thanks for the ideas. More of them is welcome.
And i have allready made plans for the next dio after this. Just drawings yet. But something in the same theme but in another location and for another purpose. It will be something to do with the black sun project. Or über soldats.
jk_conix
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Posted: Monday, January 10, 2011 - 10:49 PM UTC
Hi folks.
Here is a photo of the E100 tank on top of the dio. Pretty huge. Hmmm so i might just go a totally different way on this. I will have to research a little on what could fit on top. Or ill just keep it simple with some rubble and vegetation. Maybe half buried skeletons with half rotted leather clothing. And some rusty weapons sticking out of the ground. Something that will not catch the eye emediately when you see the dio. Details that you see only on real close proximity. Or what do you guys think?
Here is a photo of the E100 tank on top of the dio. Pretty huge. Hmmm so i might just go a totally different way on this. I will have to research a little on what could fit on top. Or ill just keep it simple with some rubble and vegetation. Maybe half buried skeletons with half rotted leather clothing. And some rusty weapons sticking out of the ground. Something that will not catch the eye emediately when you see the dio. Details that you see only on real close proximity. Or what do you guys think?
FlaminPole
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Posted: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 - 12:28 AM UTC
How about making the surface look like the Octoberfest beer field in Munich would look after an atomic hit a couple of miles away. You can do beer glasses, tent poles, tent bits, and leather clothing everywhere! A good reason for Munich would be that it was the historical home (unfortunately) of the Nazi Party. You could also build a section of street with some recognizable land marks (the Hofbrauhaus) 
jk_conix
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Posted: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 - 02:18 AM UTC
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How about making the surface look like the Octoberfest beer field in Munich would look after an atomic hit a couple of miles away. You can do beer glasses, tent poles, tent bits, and leather clothing everywhere! A good reason for Munich would be that it was the historical home (unfortunately) of the Nazi Party. You could also build a section of street with some recognizable land marks (the Hofbrauhaus)
Hmmm. Ill take that in to consideration. Got some ideas flowing around also so we shall see.
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Posted: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 - 04:17 PM UTC
Whatever you do, keep the updates coming! 
Plasticbattle
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Posted: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 - 07:42 PM UTC
Hi Jarle. Interesting project. The bell looks great, as does all the wiring and cables ... very realistic. Im not too sure about the E100 on top .. or how it is now ... it looks like its just plonked there as an afterthought. 
jk_conix
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Posted: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 - 01:09 AM UTC
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Hi Jarle. Interesting project. The bell looks great, as does all the wiring and cables ... very realistic. Im not too sure about the E100 on top .. or how it is now ... it looks like its just plonked there as an afterthought.
Hi Frank. Tnx. The tank will not be on the dio as the photo as you mentioned looks..... not right. Simply to big for the dio. So ill try to keep it a little more simple. Normal groundwork with some vegetation. And maybe some corpses burried or sunk in the ground. Maybe nothing but the vegetation. Ill See. But ideas are still apreciated .
Jerrers2000
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Posted: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 - 02:21 AM UTC
You could always go for an E-25 rather than the E-100 - and some vegetation - was thinking along the lines of a knocked out E-25, starting to rust, long abandoned and dissapearing into the undergrowth - thus putting your diorama well into the late 40's
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Posted: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 - 03:36 AM UTC
Hi Jarle,
I really like your idea, and as everyone has said its some great work you’re showing us here! I was just wondering, how about a scene of a desperate defense. Perhaps an 88 up top, with scientist and officers running about the hall ways burning files or trying to start the bell up.
Just a thought , but I like the forgotten idea.
Regards
I really like your idea, and as everyone has said its some great work you’re showing us here! I was just wondering, how about a scene of a desperate defense. Perhaps an 88 up top, with scientist and officers running about the hall ways burning files or trying to start the bell up.
Just a thought , but I like the forgotten idea.
Regards
jk_conix
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Posted: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 - 07:12 PM UTC
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Hi Jarle,
I really like your idea, and as everyone has said its some great work you’re showing us here! I was just wondering, how about a scene of a desperate defense. Perhaps an 88 up top, with scientist and officers running about the hall ways burning files or trying to start the bell up.
Just a thought , but I like the forgotten idea.
Regards
Tnx guys.
Yeah maybe a e25 could work. Since it is much smaller than the e100. Hmm.
Not long ago i saw an overgrown with vegetation bunker entrance. And this just popped in my head when i saw it. On the next dio project prehaps i will build a overgrown bunker entrance as mentioned on a mountain side. And some allied soldiers just discovering it. And the internals being all full of dust and evidence of it not being used for decades. And this one is a section of the bunker. And the next section is a dio from the interior of the bunker. With everything dorment and still operational. But with the internal walls in an angle witch i should have done with my current dio.
So on my next project i will build two dios that has one story. Mainly cuz it is limited on how much space i can build the entrance on top of the bunker itself, so i feel its best to separate them. Ergo one small dio with flat base with a mountain base on one side with the entrance. And the other one that is the lower section with flat ends all over to just show the internals of the mountain. Like it would have been sliced strait out of the mountain. But more on that will come later on when i am coming closer to an end on this current dio. But ill do some drawing to start the planing. And ill post them here. But i will not start to build them untill this project is done. Next week i am starting on a long vecation so i just got a little extra time on my hands
Need some time of my two jobs. Or at least one of them.But for now i might just go with a vegetation on top of my current project. With some hidden items here and there. Ill Check today after work what my local hobby shop got on artillery or flak canons.
Cheers.
jk_conix
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Posted: Thursday, January 13, 2011 - 08:11 AM UTC
Hello folks. Did some ground work today and this is how it looks so far. I am thinking maybe ill not ad much vegetation at all. As maybe the experiments done in the bunker has killed most plantlife on top. And i just put some grass spots here and there with some dead tree bits here and there. A little desert looking. With sandy ish surroundings. Or what do you guys think?
dioman13
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Posted: Thursday, January 13, 2011 - 09:22 AM UTC
Hey Jarle, Idea! How about a pair of rusted/paint peeling bilco doors, maybe partialy opened, and a lattice tower 1/2 destroyed with overgroth? Maybe toss in a sign that is faded in German lettering that you can not really read or make heads or tails out of.
okdoky
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Posted: Thursday, January 13, 2011 - 09:40 AM UTC
[quote]Hello folks. Did some ground work today and this is how it looks so far. I am thinking maybe ill not ad much vegetation at all. As maybe the experiments done in the bunker has killed most plantlife on top. And i just put some grass spots here and there with some dead tree bits here and there. A little desert looking. With sandy ish surroundings. Or what do you guys think?
Hi Jarle
I think it still needs something subtle to the German scenery to put it int o the context of the hidden German Bunker complex that was waiting to be discovered in years to come.
How about looking at some of the famous landmarks such as the Rhiechstag, a Berlin park, or cemetary or the stadiums with all there fine stonework and picking a little something from a photo with obvious connections to the place. Maybe a street sign, a statue or something similar.
Nige
Hi Jarle
I think it still needs something subtle to the German scenery to put it int o the context of the hidden German Bunker complex that was waiting to be discovered in years to come.
How about looking at some of the famous landmarks such as the Rhiechstag, a Berlin park, or cemetary or the stadiums with all there fine stonework and picking a little something from a photo with obvious connections to the place. Maybe a street sign, a statue or something similar.
Nige
jk_conix
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Posted: Thursday, January 13, 2011 - 08:04 PM UTC
Tnx guys. Good ideas. What about an air vent? Partially concrete with rusty metal parts. And some soldiers inspecting it and wondering what it is. And maybe that it is discuized as a little woodshed or something like it. To look like it is hidden in plain sight. Like the ventilation house on the fuhrer bunker. Just not as large.
jk_conix
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Posted: Thursday, January 13, 2011 - 08:34 PM UTC
A little like this one. But a little smaller. Or?
okdoky
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Posted: Friday, January 14, 2011 - 12:42 PM UTC
Hi Jarle
You gonna hate me for giving you more work to do ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, but how about adding a little bit of backdrop at tground level to focus the eye into the dio.
By adding the wall in the photo topped off with a very narrow bit of roofing and with steel doors in the openings to give you a complete, closed backdrop, then you could have the conical vent off centred and in front with a similar, bare surface treatment on the ground as in the picture.
You could add a mesh grill to the ceiling of the test room or control room that could match up with location of the conical vent at ground level. Maybe even a vertical access ladder up to it for emergency escape.
It would mean another layer at top, but show off more of your casting skills that could be contrasted by having a camo colour to contrast.
Nige
You gonna hate me for giving you more work to do ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, but how about adding a little bit of backdrop at tground level to focus the eye into the dio.
By adding the wall in the photo topped off with a very narrow bit of roofing and with steel doors in the openings to give you a complete, closed backdrop, then you could have the conical vent off centred and in front with a similar, bare surface treatment on the ground as in the picture.
You could add a mesh grill to the ceiling of the test room or control room that could match up with location of the conical vent at ground level. Maybe even a vertical access ladder up to it for emergency escape.
It would mean another layer at top, but show off more of your casting skills that could be contrasted by having a camo colour to contrast.
Nige
jk_conix
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Posted: Friday, January 14, 2011 - 01:24 PM UTC
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Hi Jarle
You gonna hate me for giving you more work to do ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, but how about adding a little bit of backdrop at tground level to focus the eye into the dio.
By adding the wall in the photo topped off with a very narrow bit of roofing and with steel doors in the openings to give you a complete, closed backdrop, then you could have the conical vent off centred and in front with a similar, bare surface treatment on the ground as in the picture.
You could add a mesh grill to the ceiling of the test room or control room that could match up with location of the conical vent at ground level. Maybe even a vertical access ladder up to it for emergency escape.
It would mean another layer at top, but show off more of your casting skills that could be contrasted by having a camo colour to contrast.
Nige
Tnx Nige. Hmm that sounds good. Ill see what i can do this weekend. See if there is room for the vent inside the building allso. Maybe internal metal vent shafts on the walls. Hmm, ill get back to you on that one. But interesting idea for sure.
jk_conix
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Posted: Sunday, January 16, 2011 - 04:14 AM UTC
Hi guys. Another update.
Here i have made a casting form out of balsa surrounded with cardboard for stiffness.
And here i cut out a paper shape and formed a konikal shape (roof)
And here it is finished.
Ive used plastic tape on the outside of the cast shapes to make them water tight. Dont want another leakage incident hehe.
Here i have made a casting form out of balsa surrounded with cardboard for stiffness.
And here i cut out a paper shape and formed a konikal shape (roof)
And here it is finished.
Ive used plastic tape on the outside of the cast shapes to make them water tight. Dont want another leakage incident hehe.
bill1
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Posted: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 - 05:22 AM UTC
Yo Jarle,
A very good tip, the one that Nige give up...give that a try!
Greetz Nico
A very good tip, the one that Nige give up...give that a try!
Greetz Nico
jk_conix
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Posted: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 - 09:19 AM UTC
Hi guys. Sorry for the slow progress. We are some guys short at work so things has been super busy. And my creativity havent been on top when i get home from work. But hopefully it will change. Soon i hope. We had a guy that just stoped showing up at work, so things... yeah. But enough about that. I finally pored some plaster into the shape and casted it. And here is the result. Still allot of ground work to do. So it is not finished at all. But getting there
barbacanosa
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Posted: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 - 10:11 PM UTC
Like me, I'm building something similar for Führerbunker diorama.
but I'd like to see more images, with only a photo can not fully appreciate
Domi
but I'd like to see more images, with only a photo can not fully appreciate
Domi
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