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Posted: Thursday, March 29, 2012 - 01:40 PM UTC

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Konrad:There's the rub.My "LHS" so to speak is over an hour away,and is not really a Hobby Shop.More of a craft store with models,if you know what I mean .So all my stuff is done online.I'm thinking some type of laq.based automotive primer might work Jeff T.



I would order it - Tamiya primer - from Squadron or another Webtailer - before using "life size" materials - its all Bout the pigment grind and Tami's is super fine. Definitely worth the extra. If you have to pay shipping order an assortment of Tamiya and Gunze (Mr. Surfacer) - won't disappoint. Have to order some of the odder Tami stuff myself and I have good shops to go to.

Remember, if the primer is bad the finish is bad.

Konrad



O.K. So should I go with the regular or the "fine" primer?
Greg,will be picking up some of your choice also to compare the two.Jeff T.
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Posted: Thursday, March 29, 2012 - 11:32 PM UTC
I managed to paint my first ever camo, I am fairly happy with it. I made a few mistakes that I will learn from.

I used the Blue Tac method to paint the camo, the main problem I had was when I removed the Blue Tac and then sprayed a light coat of Satin Varnish I could see slight marks where the Blue Tac was which I could not see before i sprayed the satin . I am thinking I should have washed the model before applying the Satin.

Still need to add the cockpit canopy and the decals and a few small bits.






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Posted: Friday, March 30, 2012 - 03:02 AM UTC

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O.K. So should I go with the regular or the "fine" primer?



Here is the one I am thinking about Jeff - Grey primer for Metal and Plastic #87042:

http://www.tamiyausa.com/product/item.php?product-id=87042

I have not tried the fine version, but I would anticipate it would work well - my experience with Tamiya products has been good most every time. I will look for it myself as my supplies run low. For inquiring minds:

http://www.tamiyausa.com/product/item.php?product-id=87064

A tip for quarterscale modeling from my notebook: best practice is to decant and spray with an airbrush. Thin it a little with Tamiya laquer thinner (this is a great thinner for their paint too)if you can get it, or use a milder laquer thinner if you can't (I have used "Sunshine" brand with good results). The Tamiya laquer thinner should be available from a good webtailer too.

If you use the can the second trick I have learned is to just tap the spray button for a fraction of a second as as you pass the can by the model - you want a really thin dust coat, not a wet coat, and the Tamiya spray heads really put out a lot of paint fast.

It is totally OK if the primer coat is translucent, as long as you have complete coverage. To avoid paint film build up, this is actually the look you are going for.

As an aside, if you want to buy hardware store primers to test, the Rustoleum brands advertising extended coverage have a finer grind to the pigment, and work OK for models, but are still not as fine as the Tamiya products. One thing you can get from Rustoleum is a red oxide primer - I have tested it (decanting and airbrushing) and it works well, and might be a good alternative for German armor in particular since it matches the color of the actual primer the Germans used, but is pretty dark so it will affect your color coats more than a grey primer will :-)

HTH,

Konrad

PS - Gary - your Spit is looking good. You should definitely put the wash on before the satin coat, actually you should put the decals on before the wash. If you spray on a thin coat of gloss the decals will go on better, and buy some setting solution (I use Solvaset on Tamiya decals with good results - use sparingly and let dry, repeat) to get them on tight. Another thin coat of gloss will help keep the wash from darkening the entire surface and help the capilary action draw it into the scribed lines. Check out threads on "Sludge Wash" for a neat technique as well.

Konrad
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Posted: Friday, March 30, 2012 - 06:21 PM UTC
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Posted: Friday, March 30, 2012 - 10:09 PM UTC

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PS - Gary - your Spit is looking good. You should definitely put the wash on before the satin coat, actually you should put the decals on before the wash. If you spray on a thin coat of gloss the decals will go on better, and buy some setting solution (I use Solvaset on Tamiya decals with good results - use sparingly and let dry, repeat) to get them on tight. Another thin coat of gloss will help keep the wash from darkening the entire surface and help the capilary action draw it into the scribed lines. Check out threads on "Sludge Wash" for a neat technique as well.



Thanks for the feedback Konrad, I am doing all the research on washes now. The next model i do i will try a wash.

I went and bought some setting solution today.

Gary
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Posted: Saturday, March 31, 2012 - 12:16 AM UTC
Gary: I had the same problem with the blu-tac.I figured out that the stuff was pulling the oil off My hands and that's what was making the marks.Try wearing a pair of unpowdered nitrile or latex gloves.It worked for me.
Konrad: Thank you for the info.I will be ordering some Tamiya stuff soon.
Tomislav: Nice job,the figures add a lot.Is this the first,second,or third build for this campaign?I can't remember Jeff T.
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Posted: Saturday, March 31, 2012 - 02:50 AM UTC
Tomislav, is that camo done freehand or did you also try the clay-masking technique? You did a phenomenal job, either way!
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Posted: Saturday, March 31, 2012 - 07:52 AM UTC
Gary - nice job on your camo. I think it looks good. Here's another link to painting and weathering:
https://armorama.kitmaker.net/forums/140764&page=1

Tomislav - I think you nailed that German camo. Who makes those figures????

I have turret numbers hand-painted on with the white band. I tried markers but weren't looking as good as my toothpick drawn examples. Next will be detail painting and weathering. Then, fun with the bedspring screens!
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Posted: Saturday, March 31, 2012 - 09:57 AM UTC
Camo was done freehanded with airbrush.I had little overspray but filters kill it
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Posted: Saturday, March 31, 2012 - 09:59 AM UTC

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Gary: I had the same problem with the blu-tac.I figured out that the stuff was pulling the oil off My hands and that's what was making the marks.Try wearing a pair of unpowdered nitrile or latex gloves.It worked for me.



JEFF:I was thining of all kinds of things that may have caused the marks, but oil on my fingers wasn't one of them. A box of gloves have been added to my shopping list, Thanks

GREG: The link is really helpfull
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Posted: Saturday, March 31, 2012 - 09:59 AM UTC
Figures are from Tamiya
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Posted: Saturday, March 31, 2012 - 12:35 PM UTC
Gary: nice work on the spit.

Tomislav: Loving the M8. Nice twist with the German camo.

My barrel was on back-order, thus not included. The missing pigment was taken out of the set, then the set mistakenly put back on the shelf. They will send the missing pigment when the barrel arrives to them. All is well, just have to wait a couple more weeks.

Happy Modeling, -zon
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Posted: Saturday, March 31, 2012 - 06:58 PM UTC



I hate pe!!! But, it's together so far. I fixed the bottom of the number 2 on the turret since this pic. Will paint these screens then attach.

I wonder what color the screens should be? Kinda thinking chain link grey with rust
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Posted: Saturday, March 31, 2012 - 07:24 PM UTC
Greg:

I guess it depends on the back story - if you want field collected stuff a mix of civilian colors depending on what the source material was, if a field mod, maybe a bad coat of mismatched BO4 Green. Maybe a little of both?

Looking forward to your bedspring T34 either way

Great GB!

Konrad
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Posted: Sunday, April 01, 2012 - 12:25 AM UTC
almost done























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Posted: Sunday, April 01, 2012 - 12:49 AM UTC
My truck is ready to paint:




And the comparison with Mercedes L3000 from Bandai also in 1/48 scale.



See the workshop:

Best,
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Posted: Sunday, April 01, 2012 - 03:25 AM UTC
Greg... Even though you say you hate PE,please remember what your parents used to tell you"NO JUMPING ON THE BED(springs)
Tomislav... Nice work,how did you do the chipping?Hairspray?
Mateusz... Looks real nice,Paint should bring it alive.Jeff T.
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Posted: Sunday, April 01, 2012 - 04:52 AM UTC
@Jeff - that's why I hate them, can't jump on them

Tomislav - creative filter work and the chipping looks not too overdone

Matejson - 2 great looking trucks there! I really like how you improve the kit plastic tarps.
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Posted: Sunday, April 01, 2012 - 08:56 AM UTC
Chipping was made with oil colors
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Posted: Sunday, April 01, 2012 - 09:38 AM UTC







I did grey and dark brown/black on the screens but the dark seems to have dominated. Next, is painting touch ups and pigments
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Posted: Monday, April 02, 2012 - 07:18 AM UTC

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Tomislav - creative filter work and the chipping looks not too overdone

Matejson - 2 great looking trucks there! I really like how you improve the kit plastic tarps.



Ditto!!

Greg: The bedsprings came out well, as did the overall paint job. Can't wait for more.

Happy Modeling, -zon
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Posted: Monday, April 02, 2012 - 07:44 AM UTC
Greg, is that the Dragon Premium kit? I guess I didn't realize it sooner, but that is a really nice kit. I built it many years ago...before I was even an adequate modeler but it still turned out pretty impressive. It looks like you hand-painted the unit markings? Always a solid choice!
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Posted: Monday, April 02, 2012 - 09:07 AM UTC
update on staghound























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Posted: Monday, April 02, 2012 - 09:15 AM UTC
almost done with hounds so why not



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Posted: Monday, April 02, 2012 - 04:57 PM UTC
Tomislav - nice going on the build! That Bandai Su85 you should stick on ebay for collectors $ amount, and get the Gasoline SU85 conversion - it's very nice.

quarter-kit.com or track48.com



ps Robby - there's no Dragon armor kits in 1/48 What we have here is a Hobby Boss T34 with Hauler pe bedsprings Thanks for the compliment!