Well,Moving forward,We have a painted hull.I did some pre-shading and then proceded to put too much yellow on and covered most of it up It doesn't show up at all in the pic.
The new airbrush works well though
Zon... I checked the AK site and got some good advise.I know you are busy but lets see some pics dude
Ian... I like your post-shade idea.The mix I used on the hull started with XF-60 and ended up a lot lighter.I wonder if I could use XF-60 as my post-shade?Model on,Jeff T.
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imatanker
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Posted: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 - 01:03 PM UTC
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Posted: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 - 02:46 PM UTC
I also like to use heavily diluted 75% Deck tan for light dust and JSDF(?)Brown (the Japanese color) for darker dust which you can use to darken or lighten areas too.
Holding a piece of paper against the model while you spray can help limit the area you want to confine the spray to when you're doing your modulation base colors. Keep having fun with the experimentation Jeff and something unique can come out of it.
Holding a piece of paper against the model while you spray can help limit the area you want to confine the spray to when you're doing your modulation base colors. Keep having fun with the experimentation Jeff and something unique can come out of it.
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Posted: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 - 03:12 PM UTC
Jeff T: I'm still waiting on my barrel, so I'm on indefinite hold Although the truth is I should start cleaning up my tracks and making a couple of grab handles. Hopefully this weekend.
Post shading should work as the others suggested. Just give it all a try.
Happy Modeling, -zon
Post shading should work as the others suggested. Just give it all a try.
Happy Modeling, -zon
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Posted: Thursday, April 19, 2012 - 12:20 AM UTC
Thanks for the help guys.Have been hard at it this morning sanding my little fingers off,fixing my scr#@^*w up.Here's where we are
I did come up with a sanding tool that worked pretty well though I don't know if this is a new idea or not,but it worked sweet.Here's what I did.
Took the latest version of Nortons grey scuff pad,it's a lot thinner than the old style.You should be able to get it at any parts store that sells Norton body shop supplies.
Cut a small piece and put it in some reverse tweezers
Roll it up on itself
And tuck the end in
There you have it,a sanding tool that will go almost anywhere and is easy to hold on to.It works well wet or dry and although it will not level a surface because it is soft it does smooth the surface well.I will be doing some re-painting during the day,and hopefully have some pics tonight.Model on,Jeff T.
I did come up with a sanding tool that worked pretty well though I don't know if this is a new idea or not,but it worked sweet.Here's what I did.
Took the latest version of Nortons grey scuff pad,it's a lot thinner than the old style.You should be able to get it at any parts store that sells Norton body shop supplies.
Cut a small piece and put it in some reverse tweezers
Roll it up on itself
And tuck the end in
There you have it,a sanding tool that will go almost anywhere and is easy to hold on to.It works well wet or dry and although it will not level a surface because it is soft it does smooth the surface well.I will be doing some re-painting during the day,and hopefully have some pics tonight.Model on,Jeff T.
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Posted: Thursday, April 19, 2012 - 06:33 AM UTC
Jeff: that's a great tool. I think I will have to make one for my horses for What If. Having a hard time with the sanding films.
Happy Modeling, -zon
Happy Modeling, -zon
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Posted: Thursday, April 19, 2012 - 08:00 AM UTC
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Jeff: that's a great tool. I think I will have to make one for my horses for What If. Having a hard time with the sanding films.
Happy Modeling, -zon
Zon,glad you liked it.I did make a mistake though,it's not a Norton scuff pad,it's made by Carborundum.Sorry for the brain cramp.Jeff T.
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Posted: Thursday, April 19, 2012 - 01:03 PM UTC
So here's what I have now.It came out pretty well.Although,try as I might,I just could not get any real color difference
I forgot that I had the AK Weathering with Enamels DVD.Just looked at some of that and I think I can get what I want with some of their tricks.Model on,Jeff T.
I forgot that I had the AK Weathering with Enamels DVD.Just looked at some of that and I think I can get what I want with some of their tricks.Model on,Jeff T.
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Posted: Thursday, April 19, 2012 - 05:16 PM UTC
The Puma is looking strong. I like the darker color on it.
I got side-lined with a swollen quadriceps during sparring yesterday, so I started building another kit while icing on the couch
I got side-lined with a swollen quadriceps during sparring yesterday, so I started building another kit while icing on the couch
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Posted: Friday, April 20, 2012 - 07:03 AM UTC
Am I too late to come in with this?
Thanks,
Pete
Thanks,
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Posted: Friday, April 20, 2012 - 07:12 AM UTC
Jeff: Looks great.
Greg: keep yourself safe over there. Looking forward to this one as well.
Pete: welcome to the party!!
Happy Modeling, -zon
Greg: keep yourself safe over there. Looking forward to this one as well.
Pete: welcome to the party!!
Happy Modeling, -zon
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Posted: Friday, April 20, 2012 - 11:03 AM UTC
Pete - dive in with your Tamiya
Thanks Zon - it's doing alright. The things we'll do to get extra modelling time
Thanks Zon - it's doing alright. The things we'll do to get extra modelling time
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Posted: Friday, April 20, 2012 - 12:38 PM UTC
Now we're getting somewhere.First try at a true wash,dark brown and green
Comments? All welcome.Model on,Jeff T.
Comments? All welcome.Model on,Jeff T.
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Posted: Friday, April 20, 2012 - 02:57 PM UTC
Jeff: I think it will look good with heavy weathering.
Happy Modeling, -zon
Happy Modeling, -zon
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Posted: Friday, April 20, 2012 - 09:04 PM UTC
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Jeff: I think it will look good with heavy weathering.
Happy Modeling, -zon
Zon,Are you saying that it looks so bad that it needs to be covered up? Jeff T.
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Posted: Saturday, April 21, 2012 - 01:35 AM UTC
Pete...........I think a razorback Mustang would always be welcome!!!!!
Jeff..........the Puma looks great. Looks like the dark yellow laid down realy well. Definitely a sleek looking vehicle.....love the eight wheelers!
Going to try to work on the NZ Sherman this weekend and get the bogeys done and get the primer down. No more saw jobs.
Jeff..........the Puma looks great. Looks like the dark yellow laid down realy well. Definitely a sleek looking vehicle.....love the eight wheelers!
Going to try to work on the NZ Sherman this weekend and get the bogeys done and get the primer down. No more saw jobs.
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Posted: Saturday, April 21, 2012 - 02:14 AM UTC
Jeff... I like your model. I'd like to point out that maybe you have a nice 'filter' effect on there where you've added variation to the base color or a 'light overall wash'. That's cool and looks great. Be sure you also do a more concentrated 'pin wash' to highlight certain details like latches or hatches. Use a very small brush and use just enough wash to avoid over-flow. If you have a Tamiya Acrylic base coat, the wash should be Enamel.
HTH
HTH
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Posted: Saturday, April 21, 2012 - 02:33 PM UTC
Got the suspension on tonight and the rest of the small details placed on the hull. Should be ready to primer tomorrow.
Regards, Ian
Regards, Ian
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Posted: Sunday, April 22, 2012 - 04:58 AM UTC
Nice reference of paint schemes - That is going to be a beautiful Sherman!
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Posted: Sunday, April 22, 2012 - 01:23 PM UTC
Ian,I agree with Greg,nice work.Man I wish I had paint instructions like that Trying to see what goes where on this Puma is a nightmare,I just can't see them.
Anyway,this is what I came up with,
It looks pretty bright now,but some weathering should tone it down.
Zon... You said it would look good with heavy weathering,what do you think about a white wash? Model on,Jeff T.
Anyway,this is what I came up with,
It looks pretty bright now,but some weathering should tone it down.
Zon... You said it would look good with heavy weathering,what do you think about a white wash? Model on,Jeff T.
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Posted: Sunday, April 22, 2012 - 03:17 PM UTC
Jeff... That's a nice camo. why not try doing a diluted overspray of the base yellow or a dust color to see what it looks like, and if you're still not liking it do the winter camo to cover it up.
I have a wood base drying and nearing the finish line, but a couple details still left to figure out:
Here's my idea to make a mold using a plastic bag handle for mud puddle splash
Done with the underground folks
Still trying to figure out if the destroyed kubelwagen is a good idea and maybe a light post for a vertical element?
I have a wood base drying and nearing the finish line, but a couple details still left to figure out:
Here's my idea to make a mold using a plastic bag handle for mud puddle splash
Done with the underground folks
Still trying to figure out if the destroyed kubelwagen is a good idea and maybe a light post for a vertical element?
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Posted: Monday, April 23, 2012 - 08:48 AM UTC
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Quoted TextJeff: I think it will look good with heavy weathering.
Happy Modeling, -zon
Zon,Are you saying that it looks so bad that it needs to be covered up? Jeff T.
Jeff: Not at all my friend. It looks great. I was just thinking the wash seemed on the heavier side, so it would be well complimented by heavy mud/dirt and scratches, etc. The camo job has helped even it out. I like Greg's idea about the thin yellow over, then decide on a white wash or not. But if you do a white wash, do it late into winter / almost spring with most of it worn through and lots of mud!!
Ian: looking good.
Greg: nice work. I agree with something vertical. Power pole or light pole. The Kubel might get crowded, but perhaps a wedge?
Happy Modeling, -zon
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Posted: Monday, April 23, 2012 - 11:33 AM UTC
Thanks Zon!!
..Greg and Jeff, both of your projects look great. Jeff, I think your camo looks fine. I think a pin wash on your details followed by weathering with pigments or an overspray will blend it in well. I think you would be wasting the scheme with a white wash at this point.
..Greg, I love the concept. The -34/85 is one of my favorite tanks and you really nailed it...especially with the "bedspring armor". Hopefully the tank commander is a good shot 'cause I hate to see a perfectly good -34 go to waste.
Anyway, awesome stuff guys.
Regards, Ian
..Greg and Jeff, both of your projects look great. Jeff, I think your camo looks fine. I think a pin wash on your details followed by weathering with pigments or an overspray will blend it in well. I think you would be wasting the scheme with a white wash at this point.
..Greg, I love the concept. The -34/85 is one of my favorite tanks and you really nailed it...especially with the "bedspring armor". Hopefully the tank commander is a good shot 'cause I hate to see a perfectly good -34 go to waste.
Anyway, awesome stuff guys.
Regards, Ian
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Posted: Monday, April 23, 2012 - 12:32 PM UTC
Thanks for the input guys.I will just have to wait and see what strikes my at the time.
Here's my next question though.Regardless of how I go with the paint and weathering,Should I paint and place my stowage now or wait until later? Model on,Jeff T.
Here's my next question though.Regardless of how I go with the paint and weathering,Should I paint and place my stowage now or wait until later? Model on,Jeff T.
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Posted: Monday, April 23, 2012 - 12:46 PM UTC
Jeff - I like to attach my stowage even before painting the base coat but that's me. I think if you attach it now, the weathering will be more even. Attach items later that where maybe recently used or hung on the vehicle.
Zon - thanks for the ideas!
Ian - thanks and that T-34 turret number was in pics at the end of the war so we'll assume he got that lucky shot
Zon - thanks for the ideas!
Ian - thanks and that T-34 turret number was in pics at the end of the war so we'll assume he got that lucky shot
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Posted: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 - 10:36 AM UTC
Grag,thats a great idea about putting more often used stuff on after Thats why I like this site so much,just when you think you got things figured out you ask a question and get a great answer!Model on,Jeff T.